The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim

The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim

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MWB35 Apr 23, 2014 @ 3:54pm
Too Many Mods? Skyrim crashes with mods loaded
I downloaded the collection to make Skyrim look and sound better, but whenever I load Skyrim, it crashes right after the Bethesda screen. When I take off the mods, the game loads properly, and I'm only allowed to have about 6 mods running or it crashes. Is this just the limit that my computer can run?
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Skainey Apr 23, 2014 @ 4:01pm 
probably it's i actually running around 45 mods and works fine,
MWB35 Apr 23, 2014 @ 4:14pm 
Okay. Is your computer anything special like a gaming computer, or is it just like a normal computer or laptop?
what defines a "gaming computer"? Pretty lights? I got some pretty lights in my PC.
MWB35 Apr 23, 2014 @ 4:20pm 
Haha, no. Im not too good with computer lingo. I just mean a computer that has the capacity and is designed to play computer games. My laptop I just bought obviously isn't a gaming computer, but I just wanted to know if his was a normal computer similar to mine.
Shiny Apr 23, 2014 @ 4:50pm 
If you post your specs and the mods you're using and maybe even the load order, someone might be able to assist you more.
BelphegorATS Apr 23, 2014 @ 5:09pm 
I have 150 mods and have experienced no major issues for a while. I do still get crashes and game freezes once in a while, but it's playable. I suppose it's because I've unsubscribed from some mods and deleted them from the data files because they might've been prone to cause these issues more frequently in some regions of Skyrim. Nowadays the crashes and game freezes are starting to diminish as far as I can tell, so I shouldn't have too much of an issue unless I download a mod through the Workshop that does cause problems.

If you have a computer that's made for gaming, you shouldn't worry about these issues unless the hardware proves otherwise. Then you may have to get a new computer to handle your games or build one yourself if you have the necessary parts.
jhyric Apr 23, 2014 @ 5:33pm 
Hell, I have 255 mods.The only major issue I run into is when I find another mod I really want. I'm going to have to start getting into plugin merging soon if I keep this up. I get very few crashes or freezes.

My guess is it has little do with how many mods you have, and more to do with how you're installing them, what your load order is like, and if you're following all the important instructions for each individual mod.

Read some how-to guides on Skyrim modding. A lot of their warnings and♥♥♥♥♥♥are little more than them covering their own♥♥♥♥♥in case someone with a souped-up rig and an overclocked CPU manages to blow up their basement room after installing a mod, but the instructions themselves are worth paying attention to.
wowszer Apr 23, 2014 @ 5:33pm 
It can also be mod order, or missiing mods. Mod order can be checked/fixed by running BOSS.
Missing mods are where a Mod X requires Mod(s) Y or even Yand Z to run. Miss one of those, crash every time. Going back and re-reading the description of each mod to find the requirements each need and installing those can cure your problem as well.
jhyric Apr 23, 2014 @ 5:34pm 
Also, if you're talking about a Steam Workshop collection that you just downloaded all at once, then that's your problem. Right there. Using Steam is bad enough, but just tossing a bunch of Steam mods (or any mods) all in at once is going to cause problems.

EDIT: I'm not trying to diss Steam (too much) but I am saying that they often lack documentation (such as required mods, as the above poster pointed out) and are poorly maintained due to the restrictions of the Steam Workshop. It just seeems a bit worrisome to download and install a bunch of workshop mods all at once without carefully going through them all and doing some research.
Last edited by jhyric; Apr 23, 2014 @ 5:36pm
MWB35 Apr 23, 2014 @ 5:45pm 
Thank you guys. As some of you pointed out, there are mods required to run other mods, as I did not run previously. And I did just install a bunch of steam modes so that's probably the problem too. Thanks for helping!
Talonmaster Apr 23, 2014 @ 6:16pm 
Here is some real help. Use Wyre Bash, BOSS, and Tes5Edit. Wyre Bash and Tes5Edit will tell you why you are ctding on start up 99% of the time.

Using a mod manager and forgetting about the workshop help a lot too.
Last edited by Talonmaster; Apr 23, 2014 @ 6:17pm
jhyric Apr 23, 2014 @ 6:21pm 
BOSS can get mod order wrong, so its best not to always trust it and to do some research. TESVedit doesn't tell you anything. It can tell you if there are conflicts, but it is mostly only useful for seeing which mods overwrite what parts of each other, and even then you have to kind of know what you're looking for (i.e.: having some idea of what mods are conflicting). Wrye Bash is touchy and doesn't always order the mods within itself to match BOSS and your own list. Meaning you'll have to do it manually and, yes, know where everything should go before running a patch.

BOSS is actually better at finding conflicts, but only if that conflict is known and has been reported and vetted by the community (BOSS itself doesn't look at any of your mods beside the name of the file. It has a database that is compiled by some very dedicated people, which is why it's usually close but not quite right for your mod list).

Not sayng these aren't useful tools, because they are. Hell, they're practically ESSENTIAL. But to say they're the answer to all your problems, or that they're so User-Friendly yoou wouldn't need to actually research or know anything about what you're about to do, would be misleading people who aren't as familiar with moddig.
Last edited by jhyric; Apr 23, 2014 @ 6:23pm
Talonmaster Apr 23, 2014 @ 6:55pm 
True, but you have to start somewhere. And those tools are the best place. I actually just use Wyre Bash and Tes5Edit to find missing masters, clean dirty mods, and make a bashed patch.

I can't trust Boss to get my mod order right anymore now that I have 255 plugins but I should do the just perfectly at around 40 or so. Just a matter of what you install.

Trying to run a heavily modded Oblivion was hell without them and I can't imagine it would be much better for Skyrim.

Might as well suggest ENB too. It helps with performance and you can turn the graphics off.
Last edited by Talonmaster; Apr 23, 2014 @ 6:57pm
MWB35 Apr 23, 2014 @ 7:02pm 
Thank you, these have helped a lot.
I love Wyre and TESEdit for that as well..I also don't use BOSS/LOOT anymore, but suggest it to new modders since both Wyre and Edit are bit more involved.. :P
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