bAStIaN Apr 19 @ 4:21pm
Weird stability issue? PLEASE HELP!
Every 30 minutes or so my game sort of locks itself up - the game goesinto a black screen for about 5-10 seconds and mutes itself. The game comes back about half the time but sometimes it crashes to desktop, no error...
My load order is as follows:
Skyrim.esm=1
Update.esm=1
Unofficial Skyrim Patch.esp=1
Dawnguard.esm=1
Unofficial Dawnguard Patch.esp=1
Dragonborn.esm=1
Unofficial Dragonborn Patch.esp=1
Wyrmstooth.esp=1
JSwords.esm=1
Chesko_Frostfall.esp=1
Better Dynamic Snow.esp=1
RevampedExteriorFog.esp=1
AOS.esp=1
Further Dark Dungeons for ENB.esp=1
StaticMeshImprovementMod.esp=1
StaticMeshImprovementMod-DragonbornTernFix.esp=1
StaticMeshImprovementMod-FurnitureChestSnowFix.esp=1
Dual Sheath Redux.esp=1
EpisodeParallax.esp=1
Immersive Battles.esp=1
Immersive Brigands.esp=1
Immersive Dawnguard.esp=1
Immersive Dragonborn.esp=1
Immersive Factions.esp=1
Immersive Mercenaries.esp=1
Immersive Patrols.esp=1
Immersive Travelers.esp=1
Immersive Werewolves.esp=1
Skyrim Flora Overhaul.esp=1
WetandCold.esp=1
Chesko_LoreBasedLoadingScreens.esp=1
IMAGINATOR - Visual Control for Skyrim.esp=1
RaceMenu.esp=1
RaceMenuPlugin.esp=1
Fhaarkas Font Mod - SkyUI.esp=1
iHUD.esp=1
IMAGINATOR - MCMenu.esp=1
LessIntrusiveHUD.esp=1
Cloaks.esp=1
Cloaks - Dawnguard.esp=1
Hothtrooper44_Armor_Ecksstra.esp=1
Hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp=1
Immersive Weapons.esp=1
Insanity's Sorrow.esp=1
DeadlyDragons.esp=1
SkyRe_Main.esp=1
SkyRe_Combat.esp=1
SkyRe_EncounterZones.esp=1
SkyRe_EnemyAI.esp=1
SkyRe_EnemyScaling.esp=1
SkyRe_StandingStones.esp=1
SkyRe_Survivalism.esp=1
Morrowloot.esp=1
Unique Uniques.esp=1
Run For Your Lives.esp=1
WhiterunFortified.esp=1
WhiterunREVISION.esp=1
RRBetterWhiterunInt.esp=1
SkyrimCoinReplacerRedux.esp=1
Book Covers Skyrim.esp=1
Book Covers Dawnguard.esp=1
Book Covers Dragonborn.esp=1
Bounty Gold.esp=1
Guard Dialogue Overhaul.esp=1
RichMerchants.esp=1
SFO - Expanded Diversity.esp=1
Convenient Horses.esp=1
Footprints.esp=1
Footprints - Ash.esp=1
dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp=1
dD-Dragonborn-Dawnguard-EBT Patch.esp=1
aMidianborn_Skyforge_Weapons.esp=1
Complete Solitude.esp=1
ImpeREAL Empire - Unique Cities - Falkreath.esp=1
EnhancedLightsandFX.esp=1
ELFX - Exteriors.esp=1
ELFX - Dawnguard.esp=1
ELFX - Dragonborn.esp=1
ELFXEnhancer.esp=1
DeadlySpellImpacts.esp=1
The Dance of Death - Ultimate Edition.esp=1
dD-No Spinning Death Animation.esp=1
3DNPC.esp=1
RealisticNeedsandDiseases.esp=1
RND_Dawnguard-Patch.esp=1
RND_Dragonborn-Patch.esp=1
RND_USKP-Patch.esp=1
Reduced Distance NPC Greetings.esp=1
AmazingFollowerTweaks.esp=1
dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Realistic.esp=1
SkyRe_Races.esp=1
RealisticWaterTwo.esp=1
RealisticWaterTwo - Waves.esp=1
RealisticWaterTwo - Dawnguard.esp=1
RealisticWaterTwo - Waves - Dawnguard.esp=1
RealisticWaterTwo - Dragonborn.esp=1
RealisticWaterTwo - Wyrmstooth.esp=1
RealisticWaterTwo - Waves - Wyrmstooth.esp=1
Automatic Variants.esp=1
Dual Sheath Redux Patch.esp=1
Locational Damage.esp=1
RND_AnimalLoot.esp=1
Prometheus_No_snow_Under_the_roof.esp=1
Prometheus_NSUTR BDS Patch.esp=1
SkyFalls + SkyMills + DG + DB.esp=1
SkyFalls + SkyMills Wyrmstooth.esp=1
SkyFalls Dragonborn Small waterfalls.esp=1
SkyrimHighDefinitionLODsDragonborn.esp=1
SkyrimHighDefinitionLODs.esp=1
LogicalHealthLimit_Full.esp=1
Inconsequential NPCs.esp=1
Inconsequential NPCs - Enhancement.esp=1
Taverns.esp=1
1nivWICCloaks.esp=1
1nivWICSkyCloaksPatch.esp=1
SkyUI.esp=1
ShoutCD.esp=1
TrueDragonblood-DawnguardV001.esp=1
TrueDragonblood-DragonboornV001.esp=1
ESFCompanions.esp=1
Brevi_MoonlightTales.esp=1
Predator Vision.esp=1
JSwordsDistributionBalancePlugin.esp=1
JSwords_Load_Screens.esp=1
WerewolfMastery.esp=1
BloodmoonRising.esp=1
TakeNotes.esp=1
ReProccer.esp=1
Warburg's 3D Paper World Map - Texture 2.esp=1
Last edited by bAStIaN; Apr 19 @ 11:00pm
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bAStIaN Apr 19 @ 10:42pm 
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Kelvy Apr 19 @ 11:27pm 
Have you LOOT installed? (next version up from BOSS) .Can install from boss page it may help you with your mods. Try it first.
bAStIaN Apr 20 @ 12:54am 
Originally posted by Kelvy:
Have you LOOT installed? (next version up from BOSS) .Can install from boss page it may help you with your mods. Try it first.
That's not supposed to be a stable as BOSS, I don't think that the problem reallly lies with BOSS though.
bAStIaN Apr 20 @ 1:02am 
It's getting worse and worse...WTF is wrong with my game?
infinitedarkenergy Apr 20 @ 2:35am 
I play "vanilla" Skyrim-no mods and have had the same issue. When i wrote bethesda, they said it was a video card compatibility issue. When i googled it i found a modders site dealing with the issue. They have instructions how to change your vid files. I just set my game on lower video settings, then raised them gradually until it was fairly balanced. I also disabled NVIDIA Experience.
bAStIaN Apr 20 @ 2:42am 
Originally posted by infinitedarkenergy:
I play "vanilla" Skyrim-no mods and have had the same issue. When i wrote bethesda, they said it was a video card compatibility issue. When i googled it i found a modders site dealing with the issue. They have instructions how to change your vid files. I just set my game on lower video settings, then raised them gradually until it was fairly balanced. I also disabled NVIDIA Experience.
Geforce experience has been bugging me a lot lately, and I did update my driver recently, i'll disable it and see what happens.
tonyrayvick Apr 20 @ 2:46am 
Odd. Your BOSS order is in no way similar to mine. The mods we share aren't in the same place. I've got 255 plugins and my game so far is rock solid (35 hours in). So maybe it is a load order issue?
bAStIaN Apr 20 @ 6:13am 
Originally posted by tonyrayvick:
Odd. Your BOSS order is in no way similar to mine. The mods we share aren't in the same place. I've got 255 plugins and my game so far is rock solid (35 hours in). So maybe it is a load order issue?
BOSS does tend to screw up load orders like that -.-
Which of my mods are in the wrong place? Thanks for the help :)
tonyrayvick Apr 20 @ 1:01pm 
Well, for one, Realistic Water Two is WAAAAY higher on the list than it was when I used it. It was damn near the bottom in my list. Skyrim would definitely crash if it wasn't. I know we have different mods, but the ones we do have aren't in the same place in relation to each other.

I've taken the liberty of bolding all the mods we share, so you can see their relative position in my mod list. Note that I don't use Realistic Water Two anymore, but W.A.T.E.R is RW2's successor and BOSS sorts it in rougly the same place, although I do rememebr RW2 needing to be a bit lower. My best guess is that if it IS a load order issue, then it stuff like Realistic Water and Floral Overhaul being in the wrong place. That stuff can really bring a game down. Also note that the ESRO versions of the "Immersive" series are essentially the same, only with NPCs that conform to ESRO's unleveled philosophy and use ESRO's perk assignments. Hope this helps.

Skyrim.esm=1
Update.esm=1
Unofficial Skyrim Patch.esp=1
Dawnguard.esm=1
Unofficial Dawnguard Patch.esp=1

ApachiiHair.esm=1
Skyrim Project Optimization.esm=1
Skyrim Project Optimization - Dawnguard.esm=1
ClimatesOfTamriel.esm=1
Lanterns Of Skyrim - All In One - Main.esm=1
♥♥♥♥♥.esm=1
XFLMain.esm=1
daymoyl.esm=1
Fantasy Soundtrack Project.esp=1
Xvision Children.esm=1
FSP - Dawnguard Edition.esp=1
portal2mod.esp=1
HighResTexturePack01.esp=1
HighResTexturePack02.esp=1
HighResTexturePack03.esp=1
Xvision Children - Main.esp=1
Brawl Bugs CE.esp=1
VLCollisionFix.esp=1
Unofficial High Resolution Patch.esp=1
Weapons & Armor Fixes_Remade.esp=1
Weapons & Armor Fixes_Dawnguard.esp=1
Chesko_Frostfall.esp=1
Better Dynamic Snow.esp=1

Morning Fogs.esp=1
Rainbows.esp=1
SplashofRain.esp=1
Supreme Fog - CoT.esp=1
ExpandedSnowSystems-CoT.esp=1
Clanking Armor.esp=1
DragonShoutVoice.esp=1
IHSS.esp=1
Improved Combat Sounds v2.2.esp=1
realrainCoT.esp=1
mintylightningmod.esp=1
FantasySoundtrackProjectCombatMusic.esp=1
ApachiiHelmetWigs.esp=1
Catsofskyrim.esp=1
Chesko_WearableLantern.esp=1
Coins.esp=1
Dead Body Collision.esp=1
Dogsofskyrim.esp=1
FISS.esp=1
ktxcompleteskyforge.esp=1
More Critters.esp=1
Moss Rocks.esp=1
Populated Dungeons Caves Ruins.esp=1
Populated Forts Towers Places.esp=1
Populated Lands Roads Paths.esp=1
Populated Skyrim Civil War.esp=1
Populated Skyrim Prisons Cells.esp=1
Radiant and Unique Potions and Poisons v2.0.esp=1
RE_RealEstate.esp=1
Real Clouds.esp=1
ShootingStars.esp=1
Skyrim Immersive Creatures.esp=1
Third Era Attributes for Skyrim.esp=1
Unique BOOZE Bottles.esp=0
WetandCold.esp=1
WetandCold - Holidays.esp=1
UIExtensions.esp=1
SkyUI.esp=1
iHUD.esp=1
ImportantInformationOverhaul.esp=1
TakeNotes.esp=1
fs_radiantraiment.esp=1
AetheriumSwordsnArmor.esp=1
BoundArmors.esp=1
Cloaks.esp=1
Cloaks - Dawnguard.esp=1

1nivWICCloaks.esp=1
1nivWICSkyCloaksPatch.esp=1
Contractor Armor.esp=1
CraftableClothes.esp=1
Glass Variants.esp=1
Hothtrooper44_Armor_Ecksstra.esp=1
Hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp=1
Immersive Weapons.esp=1
imp_helm.esp=1
imp_helm_dawn.esp=1
Insanity's Steel Shortsword.esp=1
Space Wiking's Dwemer Exoskeleton.esp=1
Throwing_Weapons_Redux.esp=1
Unique Uniques.esp=1
Dr_Bandolier.esp=1
Dr_BandolierDG.esp=1
BandolierForNPCMasterFile.esp=1
BandolierForNPCsWIC_V2.esp=1
BandolierForNPCsCheaperBandoliers_BalancedWeight_Dawnguard.esp=1
ERSO 02 - EFMS vanilla heights.esp=1
ERSO 02.1 - Realistic Animal Loots.esp=0
ERSO 03 - Nightmare Mighty Dragons Unleveled DG.esp=1
ERSO 03.5 - New Dragon Super Loots.esp=1
ERSO 04 - Mighty Odahviing.esp=1
ERSO 04.2 - Mighty Durnehviir.esp=1
ERSO 05 - Dovah Holy Book.esp=1
ERSO 06 - Wait More Time Dragon Encounter x3.0.esp=0
ERSO 07 - Nightmare Dragon Priests.esp=1
ERSO 08 - RUS-00 Main plus Dawnguard.esp=1
ERSO 08.2 - ERSO EXTREME HARKON.esp=1
ERSO 09 - RUS-Npcs overhaul USKP compatible.esp=1
ERSO 09.1 - Essential Children.esp=1
ERSO 09.2 - Radiance.esp=1
ERSO 10.03 - Immersive Battles.esp=1
ERSO 10.04 - Immersive Brigands.esp=1
ERSO 10.05 - Immersive Patrols.esp=1
ERSO 10.06 - Immersive Werewolves.esp=1
ERSO 10.07 - Immersive Factions.esp=1
ERSO 10.08 - Immersive Mercenaries.esp=1

NPCs On Horses ERSOmized.esp=1
ERSO 11 - RUS-(SIM)-Assassins and Thieves.esp=1
ERSO 14 - Vendors richer and Inns more expensive.esp=0
ERSO 14.02 - Harder barter 6-4.esp=0
ERSO 14.08 - Respawn Vendor Stuff 15 days.esp=0
ERSO 15 - Timescale 8.esp=0
ERSO 16 - Realistic Crime Alert Distances - MEDIUM.esp=1
ERSO 17 - Training cost 2.5x.esp=0
ERSO 18 - LAWE Hardcore.esp=1
ERSO 20 - Standing Stones Overhaul.esp=1
ERSO 22 - Better Necromancy Spells.esp=1
ERSO 26 - Realistic Fall Damages.esp=0
ERSO 27 - Better Archery Stuff Dawnguard33.esp=1
ERSO 29 - DPMO.esp=1
ERSO 30 - Better Enemy AI Dawnguard.esp=1
CollegeOfWinterholdImmersive.esp=1
CWIDawnguardPatch.esp=1
Corpse_Preparation.esp=1
DawnstarSanctuaryExpanion.esp=1
high hrothgar overhaul.esp=1
Life In Prison.esp=1
My Home Is Your Home.esp=1
When Vampires Attack.esp=1
TES Arena Amol.esp=1
Tes Arena Nimalten.esp=1
Tes Arena NorthKeep.esp=1
Tes Heralchen Creek.esp=1
TES Blackmoor.esp=1
Tes Dunparwall.esp=1
Tes Granite Hall.esp=1
Tes Pagran Village.esp=1
Tes Vernim Wood.esp=1
The Paarthurnax Dilemma.esp=1
throneroom.esp=1
BetterQuestObjectives.esp=1
BetterQuestObjectives-Dawnguard.esp=1
BetterQuestObjectives-PaarDilemmaPatch.esp=1
BetterQuestObjectives-DBForevertoMisc.esp=1
Book Covers Skyrim.esp=1
Book Covers Dawnguard.esp=1

Civil War Overhaul.esp=1
Differently Ebony.esp=1
FireAndIceOverhaul.esp=1
Guard Dialogue Overhaul.esp=1
WeaponsArmorFixes_GuardDialogueOverhaul_Patch.esp=1
Convenient Horses.esp=1
Convenient Horses - Unique Frost.esp=1
dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp=1
dD-Dawnguard-Immersive Creatures EBT Patch.esp=1
EnhancedBlood-ImprovedCombatSounds.esp=1
TheChoiceIsYours.esp=1
TheChoiceIsYours_Dawnguard.esp=1
BetterQuestObjectives-TheChoiceIsYoursPatch.esp=1
Weapons & Armor_DragonPriestMasks.esp=1
aMidianborn_Skyforge_Weapons.esp=1
Weapons & Armor_TrueOrcishWeapons.esp=1
Helgen Reborn.esp=1
Populated Cities Towns Villages.esp=1
SoS - The Dungeons.esp=1
SoS - The Wilds.esp=1
SoS - Civilization.esp=1
Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Dungeons.esp=1
Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Dawnguard Interiors.esp=1
Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Major City Exteriors.esp=1
Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Major City Interiors.esp=1
Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Minor Cities and Town Interiors.esp=1
ClimatesOfTamriel-Dawnguard-Patch.esp=1
ClimatesOfTamriel-Nights-Level-4.esp=1
Consistent Stars - CoT.esp=1
CoT_SnowPatch_NoAurora.esp=1
Supreme Storms - Cot Version.esp=1
SoS - The Dungeons-PatchRLODungeons.esp=1
SoS - The Dungeons-PatchRLOMajorCityInteriors.esp=1
SoS - The Wilds-PatchCoT.esp=1
SoS - Civilization-PatchRLOMajorCityInteriors.esp=1
SoS - Civilization-PatchRLOMinorCities.esp=1
FSP - Unique Towns & Locations.esp=1
SoS - Civilization-PatchCoT.esp=1
Better Vampires.esp=1
Predator Vision.esp=1
Brevi_MoonlightTales.esp=0
ESFCompanions.esp=1
BetterQuestObjectives-AMBSkyforgePatch.esp=1
WerewolfMastery.esp=1
BetterQuestObjectives-MoonlightMasteryPatch.esp=1
_tck_SpellCrafting.esp=1
Apocalypse - The Spell Package.esp=1
Dwemerverse - Dwarven Magic Package.esp=1
BFSEffects.esp=1
DeadlySpellImpacts.esp=1
BetterMagic_FULL.esp=1
CombatDramaOverhaul.esp=1
DeadlyCombat.esp=1
DeadlyCombat_GiantsAIFix.esp=1
Dual Wield Parrying_SKSE.esp=1
DragonCombatOverhaul.esp=1
The Dance of Death - Dawnguard Edition.esp=1
Fight_like_a_badass.esp=1
Sneak Tools.esp=1
Sneak Tools Vanilla Hoods.esp=1
Sneak Tools Vanilla Masks.esp=1
♥♥♥♥♥.esp=1
♥♥♥♥♥-DG.esp=1
♥♥♥♥♥-Patch.esp=1
CPTN-♥♥♥♥♥ patch.esp=1
♥♥♥♥♥ Immersive Armors.esp=1
♥♥♥♥♥ Weapons and Armor DG.esp=1
Apocalypse - ♥♥♥♥♥ Compatibility Patch.esp=1
AlternativeCraftingSystem.esp=1
Vampirelordroyal.esp=1
dD-No Spinning Death Animation.esp=1
Resplendent - The Races Package.esp=1
Resplendent Races and Dwemer Exoskelton.esp=1 (my own personal patch)
3DNPC.esp=1
RealisticNeedsandDiseases.esp=1
RND_AnimalLoot.esp=1
RND_Dawnguard-Patch.esp=1
RND_USKP-Patch.esp=1
RND_UniqueBoozeBottles-Patch.esp=1
♥♥♥♥♥-Patch for RND.esp=1
XFLConfig.esp=1
XFLDialogue.esp=1
XFLPanel.esp=1
XFLPlugins.esp=1
BetterQuestObjectives-XFLPatch.esp=1
♥♥♥♥♥ Extensible Follower Framework.esp=1
3DNPCEFF.esp=1
Spirit_of_Lachance.esp=1
WATER - Sir Crabalot Returns.esp=1
follower trap safety.esp=1
MixedUnitTactics.esp=1
ClassicClasses.esp=1
dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Realistic.esp=1
RealShelter.esp=1
WATER.esp=1
WATER Plants.esp=1
WATER DG.esp=1
GreenWaterFix_v2withDawnguard.esp=1
QaxeWinterholdRebuild.esp=1
3DNPC+QaxesWR.esp=1
barenziahquestmarkers.esp=1
BVandRB_Formlist.esp=1
CWIApachiiSkyHairPatch.esp=1
Xvision Children - 3DNPC.esp=1
Xvision Children - OverridePatch.esp=1
Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp=1
BetterQuestObjectives-AlternateStartPatch.esp=1
Bashed Patch, 0.esp=1
Automatic Variants.esp=1
ASIS-Dependency.esp=1
ASIS.esp=1
DeadlyCombat_ASIS_Patch.esp=1

I might have missed some. Anyways, the most glairing issue I see here is the fact that Automatic Variants is so high on your list. ANYTHIING to do with SkyProc should be last. It creates a patch that takes into account ALL the plugins above it, so SkyProc mods must be last. Anything below it is not taken into account. Occasionally, there are mods you don't want the Proccer include in itself, but for that you open the .ini for the patcher and type the name of the .esp you don't want it to load (full name, exactly as it appears, with .esp at the end). To repeat: Skyproc patches MUST be last in your load order.

Lot's of other things seem way away from where they should be, I think.

On a side note, it just crossed my mind that ESRO's weapon changes and Weapon and Armor fixes weapon changes probably conflict...I should fix that with TES5edit. Generally speaking, weapon stat stuff is safe to change mid-play and won't break anything. I can't believe I overlooked that one.
Last edited by tonyrayvick; Apr 20 @ 1:09pm
tonyrayvick Apr 20 @ 1:07pm 
Hold on. I'm trying to fix the bolds. Apparently steam doens't like it when I try to wrap multiple lines with one bold tag (which is stupid, because most forums know the difference). Sorry for the inconvenience.

EDIT: Fixed.

PS: I hate steam forums. We need ome ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ buttons to wrap things in code with!
Last edited by tonyrayvick; Apr 20 @ 1:10pm
Nick the Geek Apr 20 @ 3:18pm 
Do other games work fine?
List of your hardware would help also.
tonyrayvick Apr 20 @ 3:27pm 
Intel Core i7 2.3 ghz (3.3 turbo boost)
Nvidia Geforce 750m
8 gigs RAM
4 gigs VRAM

Not the greatest, but enough to run most of today's games at high detail. It's the speed of my hard disk (still using a HDD, but I plan on upgrading to an SSD) that slows everything down. I feel like I got a lot of value out of my mid-priced Acer laptop. I had to search a long time to find one that was just right for the price, though.

It should also be noted that I use the following programs to improve stability and fix some of Skyrim's errors in its graphics coding and memory efficiency:

ENboost
SSME
Skyrim Memory Patch
All .dds textures optimized while maintaining size (save for Xenius Character enhancement and some dragon textures, which were 4k and I compressed them to 2k with little to no noticeable differences on my monitor). I use Ordenador for this.

I also don't use Ani-Aliasing. My shadows are at medium or high (not ultra). I use FXAA. The end result isn't really noticeable when playing too much. Distant textures are set to lose detail in the options. The view distance is set to slightly-higher-than-high levels. If I didn't run so many script-heavy mods, I could probably get this thing on Ultra, but still don't want AA because I just don't like it with Skyrim.

OH! THe only other recent release I play on this computer is Bioshock Infinite, which I can run at near-ultra levels WITH AA turned up to the mid-range. But Irrational is just less sloppy with their coding, and you can't do mods with BI so it can run smoother than Skyrim at a higher setting.

Skyrim is kind of a ♥♥♥♥♥ to get running properly, even without mods. Thanks, Bethesda.
Last edited by tonyrayvick; Apr 20 @ 3:32pm
bAStIaN Apr 21 @ 6:23am 
Originally posted by tonyrayvick:
Well, for one, Realistic Water Two is WAAAAY higher on the list than it was when I used it. It was damn near the bottom in my list. Skyrim would definitely crash if it wasn't. I know we have different mods, but the ones we do have aren't in the same place in relation to each other.

I've taken the liberty of bolding all the mods we share, so you can see their relative position in my mod list. Note that I don't use Realistic Water Two anymore, but W.A.T.E.R is RW2's successor and BOSS sorts it in rougly the same place, although I do rememebr RW2 needing to be a bit lower. My best guess is that if it IS a load order issue, then it stuff like Realistic Water and Floral Overhaul being in the wrong place. That stuff can really bring a game down. Also note that the ESRO versions of the "Immersive" series are essentially the same, only with NPCs that conform to ESRO's unleveled philosophy and use ESRO's perk assignments. Hope this helps.

Skyrim.esm=1
Update.esm=1
Unofficial Skyrim Patch.esp=1
Dawnguard.esm=1
Unofficial Dawnguard Patch.esp=1

ApachiiHair.esm=1
Skyrim Project Optimization.esm=1
Skyrim Project Optimization - Dawnguard.esm=1
ClimatesOfTamriel.esm=1
Lanterns Of Skyrim - All In One - Main.esm=1
♥♥♥♥♥.esm=1
XFLMain.esm=1
daymoyl.esm=1
Fantasy Soundtrack Project.esp=1
Xvision Children.esm=1
FSP - Dawnguard Edition.esp=1
portal2mod.esp=1
HighResTexturePack01.esp=1
HighResTexturePack02.esp=1
HighResTexturePack03.esp=1
Xvision Children - Main.esp=1
Brawl Bugs CE.esp=1
VLCollisionFix.esp=1
Unofficial High Resolution Patch.esp=1
Weapons & Armor Fixes_Remade.esp=1
Weapons & Armor Fixes_Dawnguard.esp=1
Chesko_Frostfall.esp=1
Better Dynamic Snow.esp=1

Morning Fogs.esp=1
Rainbows.esp=1
SplashofRain.esp=1
Supreme Fog - CoT.esp=1
ExpandedSnowSystems-CoT.esp=1
Clanking Armor.esp=1
DragonShoutVoice.esp=1
IHSS.esp=1
Improved Combat Sounds v2.2.esp=1
realrainCoT.esp=1
mintylightningmod.esp=1
FantasySoundtrackProjectCombatMusic.esp=1
ApachiiHelmetWigs.esp=1
Catsofskyrim.esp=1
Chesko_WearableLantern.esp=1
Coins.esp=1
Dead Body Collision.esp=1
Dogsofskyrim.esp=1
FISS.esp=1
ktxcompleteskyforge.esp=1
More Critters.esp=1
Moss Rocks.esp=1
Populated Dungeons Caves Ruins.esp=1
Populated Forts Towers Places.esp=1
Populated Lands Roads Paths.esp=1
Populated Skyrim Civil War.esp=1
Populated Skyrim Prisons Cells.esp=1
Radiant and Unique Potions and Poisons v2.0.esp=1
RE_RealEstate.esp=1
Real Clouds.esp=1
ShootingStars.esp=1
Skyrim Immersive Creatures.esp=1
Third Era Attributes for Skyrim.esp=1
Unique BOOZE Bottles.esp=0
WetandCold.esp=1
WetandCold - Holidays.esp=1
UIExtensions.esp=1
SkyUI.esp=1
iHUD.esp=1
ImportantInformationOverhaul.esp=1
TakeNotes.esp=1
fs_radiantraiment.esp=1
AetheriumSwordsnArmor.esp=1
BoundArmors.esp=1
Cloaks.esp=1
Cloaks - Dawnguard.esp=1

1nivWICCloaks.esp=1
1nivWICSkyCloaksPatch.esp=1
Contractor Armor.esp=1
CraftableClothes.esp=1
Glass Variants.esp=1
Hothtrooper44_Armor_Ecksstra.esp=1
Hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp=1
Immersive Weapons.esp=1
imp_helm.esp=1
imp_helm_dawn.esp=1
Insanity's Steel Shortsword.esp=1
Space Wiking's Dwemer Exoskeleton.esp=1
Throwing_Weapons_Redux.esp=1
Unique Uniques.esp=1
Dr_Bandolier.esp=1
Dr_BandolierDG.esp=1
BandolierForNPCMasterFile.esp=1
BandolierForNPCsWIC_V2.esp=1
BandolierForNPCsCheaperBandoliers_BalancedWeight_Dawnguard.esp=1
ERSO 02 - EFMS vanilla heights.esp=1
ERSO 02.1 - Realistic Animal Loots.esp=0
ERSO 03 - Nightmare Mighty Dragons Unleveled DG.esp=1
ERSO 03.5 - New Dragon Super Loots.esp=1
ERSO 04 - Mighty Odahviing.esp=1
ERSO 04.2 - Mighty Durnehviir.esp=1
ERSO 05 - Dovah Holy Book.esp=1
ERSO 06 - Wait More Time Dragon Encounter x3.0.esp=0
ERSO 07 - Nightmare Dragon Priests.esp=1
ERSO 08 - RUS-00 Main plus Dawnguard.esp=1
ERSO 08.2 - ERSO EXTREME HARKON.esp=1
ERSO 09 - RUS-Npcs overhaul USKP compatible.esp=1
ERSO 09.1 - Essential Children.esp=1
ERSO 09.2 - Radiance.esp=1
ERSO 10.03 - Immersive Battles.esp=1
ERSO 10.04 - Immersive Brigands.esp=1
ERSO 10.05 - Immersive Patrols.esp=1
ERSO 10.06 - Immersive Werewolves.esp=1
ERSO 10.07 - Immersive Factions.esp=1
ERSO 10.08 - Immersive Mercenaries.esp=1

NPCs On Horses ERSOmized.esp=1
ERSO 11 - RUS-(SIM)-Assassins and Thieves.esp=1
ERSO 14 - Vendors richer and Inns more expensive.esp=0
ERSO 14.02 - Harder barter 6-4.esp=0
ERSO 14.08 - Respawn Vendor Stuff 15 days.esp=0
ERSO 15 - Timescale 8.esp=0
ERSO 16 - Realistic Crime Alert Distances - MEDIUM.esp=1
ERSO 17 - Training cost 2.5x.esp=0
ERSO 18 - LAWE Hardcore.esp=1
ERSO 20 - Standing Stones Overhaul.esp=1
ERSO 22 - Better Necromancy Spells.esp=1
ERSO 26 - Realistic Fall Damages.esp=0
ERSO 27 - Better Archery Stuff Dawnguard33.esp=1
ERSO 29 - DPMO.esp=1
ERSO 30 - Better Enemy AI Dawnguard.esp=1
CollegeOfWinterholdImmersive.esp=1
CWIDawnguardPatch.esp=1
Corpse_Preparation.esp=1
DawnstarSanctuaryExpanion.esp=1
high hrothgar overhaul.esp=1
Life In Prison.esp=1
My Home Is Your Home.esp=1
When Vampires Attack.esp=1
TES Arena Amol.esp=1
Tes Arena Nimalten.esp=1
Tes Arena NorthKeep.esp=1
Tes Heralchen Creek.esp=1
TES Blackmoor.esp=1
Tes Dunparwall.esp=1
Tes Granite Hall.esp=1
Tes Pagran Village.esp=1
Tes Vernim Wood.esp=1
The Paarthurnax Dilemma.esp=1
throneroom.esp=1
BetterQuestObjectives.esp=1
BetterQuestObjectives-Dawnguard.esp=1
BetterQuestObjectives-PaarDilemmaPatch.esp=1
BetterQuestObjectives-DBForevertoMisc.esp=1
Book Covers Skyrim.esp=1
Book Covers Dawnguard.esp=1

Civil War Overhaul.esp=1
Differently Ebony.esp=1
FireAndIceOverhaul.esp=1
Guard Dialogue Overhaul.esp=1
WeaponsArmorFixes_GuardDialogueOverhaul_Patch.esp=1
Convenient Horses.esp=1
Convenient Horses - Unique Frost.esp=1
dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp=1
dD-Dawnguard-Immersive Creatures EBT Patch.esp=1
EnhancedBlood-ImprovedCombatSounds.esp=1
TheChoiceIsYours.esp=1
TheChoiceIsYours_Dawnguard.esp=1
BetterQuestObjectives-TheChoiceIsYoursPatch.esp=1
Weapons & Armor_DragonPriestMasks.esp=1
aMidianborn_Skyforge_Weapons.esp=1
Weapons & Armor_TrueOrcishWeapons.esp=1
Helgen Reborn.esp=1
Populated Cities Towns Villages.esp=1
SoS - The Dungeons.esp=1
SoS - The Wilds.esp=1
SoS - Civilization.esp=1
Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Dungeons.esp=1
Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Dawnguard Interiors.esp=1
Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Major City Exteriors.esp=1
Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Major City Interiors.esp=1
Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Minor Cities and Town Interiors.esp=1
ClimatesOfTamriel-Dawnguard-Patch.esp=1
ClimatesOfTamriel-Nights-Level-4.esp=1
Consistent Stars - CoT.esp=1
CoT_SnowPatch_NoAurora.esp=1
Supreme Storms - Cot Version.esp=1
SoS - The Dungeons-PatchRLODungeons.esp=1
SoS - The Dungeons-PatchRLOMajorCityInteriors.esp=1
SoS - The Wilds-PatchCoT.esp=1
SoS - Civilization-PatchRLOMajorCityInteriors.esp=1
SoS - Civilization-PatchRLOMinorCities.esp=1
FSP - Unique Towns & Locations.esp=1
SoS - Civilization-PatchCoT.esp=1
Better Vampires.esp=1
Predator Vision.esp=1
Brevi_MoonlightTales.esp=0
ESFCompanions.esp=1
BetterQuestObjectives-AMBSkyforgePatch.esp=1
WerewolfMastery.esp=1
BetterQuestObjectives-MoonlightMasteryPatch.esp=1
_tck_SpellCrafting.esp=1
Apocalypse - The Spell Package.esp=1
Dwemerverse - Dwarven Magic Package.esp=1
BFSEffects.esp=1
DeadlySpellImpacts.esp=1
BetterMagic_FULL.esp=1
CombatDramaOverhaul.esp=1
DeadlyCombat.esp=1
DeadlyCombat_GiantsAIFix.esp=1
Dual Wield Parrying_SKSE.esp=1
DragonCombatOverhaul.esp=1
The Dance of Death - Dawnguard Edition.esp=1
Fight_like_a_badass.esp=1
Sneak Tools.esp=1
Sneak Tools Vanilla Hoods.esp=1
Sneak Tools Vanilla Masks.esp=1
♥♥♥♥♥.esp=1
♥♥♥♥♥-DG.esp=1
♥♥♥♥♥-Patch.esp=1
CPTN-♥♥♥♥♥ patch.esp=1
♥♥♥♥♥ Immersive Armors.esp=1
♥♥♥♥♥ Weapons and Armor DG.esp=1
Apocalypse - ♥♥♥♥♥ Compatibility Patch.esp=1
AlternativeCraftingSystem.esp=1
Vampirelordroyal.esp=1
dD-No Spinning Death Animation.esp=1
Resplendent - The Races Package.esp=1
Resplendent Races and Dwemer Exoskelton.esp=1 (my own personal patch)
3DNPC.esp=1
RealisticNeedsandDiseases.esp=1
RND_AnimalLoot.esp=1
RND_Dawnguard-Patch.esp=1
RND_USKP-Patch.esp=1
RND_UniqueBoozeBottles-Patch.esp=1
♥♥♥♥♥-Patch for RND.esp=1
XFLConfig.esp=1
XFLDialogue.esp=1
XFLPanel.esp=1
XFLPlugins.esp=1
BetterQuestObjectives-XFLPatch.esp=1
♥♥♥♥♥ Extensible Follower Framework.esp=1
3DNPCEFF.esp=1
Spirit_of_Lachance.esp=1
WATER - Sir Crabalot Returns.esp=1
follower trap safety.esp=1
MixedUnitTactics.esp=1
ClassicClasses.esp=1
dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Realistic.esp=1
RealShelter.esp=1
WATER.esp=1
WATER Plants.esp=1
WATER DG.esp=1
GreenWaterFix_v2withDawnguard.esp=1
QaxeWinterholdRebuild.esp=1
3DNPC+QaxesWR.esp=1
barenziahquestmarkers.esp=1
BVandRB_Formlist.esp=1
CWIApachiiSkyHairPatch.esp=1
Xvision Children - 3DNPC.esp=1
Xvision Children - OverridePatch.esp=1
Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp=1
BetterQuestObjectives-AlternateStartPatch.esp=1
Bashed Patch, 0.esp=1
Automatic Variants.esp=1
ASIS-Dependency.esp=1
ASIS.esp=1
DeadlyCombat_ASIS_Patch.esp=1

I might have missed some. Anyways, the most glairing issue I see here is the fact that Automatic Variants is so high on your list. ANYTHIING to do with SkyProc should be last. It creates a patch that takes into account ALL the plugins above it, so SkyProc mods must be last. Anything below it is not taken into account. Occasionally, there are mods you don't want the Proccer include in itself, but for that you open the .ini for the patcher and type the name of the .esp you don't want it to load (full name, exactly as it appears, with .esp at the end). To repeat: Skyproc patches MUST be last in your load order.

Lot's of other things seem way away from where they should be, I think.

On a side note, it just crossed my mind that ESRO's weapon changes and Weapon and Armor fixes weapon changes probably conflict...I should fix that with TES5edit. Generally speaking, weapon stat stuff is safe to change mid-play and won't break anything. I can't believe I overlooked that one.

Thanks! I'll fix up my load order and see if it makes a difference :)

EDIT: It sadly seems that it is not a load order issue :(
Last edited by bAStIaN; Apr 21 @ 7:17am
bAStIaN Apr 21 @ 9:43am 
So, it's not a load order issue. That's all I know right now, no close to finding a real fix :(
bAStIaN Apr 22 @ 2:41pm 
i checked my papyrus log and it was full of this error message:
Error: Property DBASH7 on script GetShelterTBScript
IDK what that's about...
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