mickydickybob 14 avr à 9h15
My way of modding skyrim
Skyrim Installation - To make an immersive harder game for not so great computers which actually still looks good

When I first fire up skyrim after a fresh install the game does an autodetect gives me ultra high settings. If I was to play that auto-detected game I would only have 12fps on average. Well, that wasn't good enough. I like to play at around 40fps to make combat smooth. With all of the following listed below I play at variable 30 fps outside, typically going from 33 to 40 fps and around 50's when in dungeons.

So this is what I know so far from a users point of view. I'm no coder, but hopefully these notes of mine will have some use.

Sections

Specs
Summary
Notes
Paths
Utilities
Patches and dlc's
Graphics
Weather
Lighting
Gameplay
Animation and follower
Config and .ini

SPECS

i5-2320 quad core 3.00Ghz cpu
8gb ram
AMD HD6670 2gb Gddr3 dedicated graphics card
Windows 7

Summary

Vanilla was too easy, so I selected mods to make the game harder and more immersive. With this set-up you get more perk points, but you'll need them, as you'll be underpowered to the level lists as most of your skills start at zero (see gameplay mod section). Trainers will actually be required and I strongly suggest the warrior stone to get melee combat skills off the ground. Speech perks are also useful in this game. Especially if you set the barter mechanics to be against you. Load perkpointless smithing at the end, and keep an eye on it, the game likes to revert to original smithing perk at times. Just come out and reposition the .esp. Learnt smithing skills are retained so don't panic.

For those who are scared of Wrye bash, just skip doing that and install the mods. However I do recommend taking a bit of time, even if to do a single bash patch, which in itself isn't hard if you're willing to spend 15 minutes looking at "Wrye bash pictorial guide" at Nexus.

One strong alternative to this configuration is to remove the following two(three) mods:

Choose your own adventure (with this mod I pick Orc at the start, without I tend to go Breton or high elf)
perkpointless smithing
(Perk potions)

This can make the game easier if you feel it's too hard.

I personally play on expert as this set-up is tougher without going Requiem, which I'm looking forward to trying after I'm done with this set-up, or Bethesda releases the next TES and I've given the modders a year to get their mods out there. Tip: If you can wait, you're best off waiting until a legendary or GOTY edition is released as not only do you get all or most DLC's, thereby saving you money, but the modders have been able to do their thing.

One further point, I know this is a minimalist mesh and texture overhaul, but it looks good due to other things being done. I have played with SMIM, 2k textures, distance overhaul, amidorian caves and dungeons, ruins clutter improved, flora overhaul, HD trees, realistic water two, vivid landscapes all-in-one....
....but now I just stick with a very minimalist approach, and let me say, when you bump up particles to max in the config, then you'll see that vanilla fire effects work very well at this hardware spec level.
In other words, it's all very nice having great meshes and textures, but if you've got no fps or can only see a few meters ahead, well, that's where this takes a different path for those without computing powerhouses, and I'm personally very pleased with this alternative path.

If your computer is really bad (low spec) I strongly recommend installing only the following:

SKSE
SKYmem
Skyconfig
and going straight to the .ini section to see how you can free up FPS. Do save the two original .ini files to an out of the way folder/location, so you have them if you need them.

From the config and .ini section

Grid = 7 (note, if you have problems due to this higher adjustment, put it back to 5 and consider deleting all your save games that were saved with that new setting)

Thanks to Bethesda for making the game (albeit a very easy game)
Thanks to all modders for making my Skyrim hard and seem like a real place

N.B. Although forced to download Hi-res textures, I never use them. It's minimal difference for high performance hit in my opinion. So, Hi-Res textures off.

All mods, expect SKSE and BOSS can be found in Nexus.

Notes

Recommended Nexus subscription if only for 1 month as this cuts the process down considerably, unless you have a slow internet connection, in which case don't subscribe. For me this whole process takes about 2 hours starting with a clean skyrim install from steam.
Recommended: a good usage of CCleaner, and don't forget to look at your start-up files
Start game after steam download to create .ini files
BOSS, clean and wrye after each section
Using NMM switch view so not in categories, which is just a pain for doing this
Don't forget to show hidden files so you can see your .ini files in Mydocuments
I personally do a complete clean of NMM, Wrye bash and Skyrim when I do full modding, deleting all paths and content and do a clean skyrim install.

N.B. When bashing, remove whole skyrim folder to desktop and bash. Do not install or uninstall mods via NMM while skyrim outside steam home or NMM will throw a wobbly and create .esp problems. When done bashing replace Skyrim folder and BOSS it.

Paths

.ini and saves in Mydocuments
Skyrim is computer > windows (c:) > Program files (x86) > steam > steam apps > common > skyrim

Utilities

BOSS
NMM
SKSE
Skymem
SkyUI
Skyconfig
TE5edit - for cleaning...check out http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fw3g_N1jcZQ
Wrye bash (Remove skyrim folder to desktop and install Wrye bash to desktop > skyrim) - Don't forget to replace skyrim folder as otherwise you will get problems. The skyrim folder is only out of steam common folder to be bashed, once bashed replace skyrim folder in steam common folder.

Whenever you need to bash skyrim = desktop. When bashing done skyrim = steam common folder.

Unofficial DLC's and patches

Unofficial Skyrim
Unofficial Dawnguard
Falskaar
Wyrmstooth
Skyfalls and skymills
Skyrim shadow striping fix
Skyrim misc patches
Height adjusted races + x2 giants
Consistent older people

Graphics - Does not require BOSS, Bashing or clean

Skyrim optimizer
Dust effects
Detailed rugs
Sexy Whiterun (with dirt roads), Winterhold, Solitude and Windhelm (Riften deliberately left out)

Weather - If you bossed and bashed in Patches and DLC's you won't need to do so here

Climates of Tamerial
Expanded snow
Weather patch

Note: Supreme storms not installed. It always creates problems for me with a missing master file...pity

Darkest nights level 4, Hazardous dungeons, 40% snow whiteness, fog due to max particles in .ini, regular warmth.

Lighting (Bashing and cleaning still not required if done in patches)

Mike Fox's darker nights
Enhanced Lights and FX

Gameplay - You will want to bash this one as High level enemies uses a levelled list (Also clean unless modder states not to, in this instance I cleaned guild rewards
Wearable lanterns
Lanterns of skyrim
People have torches
Frostfall
Wet and Cold + holidays
Guard dialogue overhaul
Better dialogue controls
ASIS
Deadly combat
Immersive - weapons, armour, patrols, creatures, HUD
Better skill and quest books
Unread books glow
High level enemies
Trade and barter
Trade routes
Quality world map + falskaar and wyrmstooth
Imps more complex needs (Takes a bit of getting used to, but has dynamic time that syncs with sleep, unlike other food immersion mods, set all times to minimum of 6 to avoid breaking quests)

Choose your own adventure
Perk potions (Start around 80,000 gold, so now you may want speech perks)
Perk pointless smithing + dawnguard option
(You'll get more perks with these three, but you'll need them as the game is harder due to constantly being behind in comparison to the games levelled lists, that is until you find all smithing books and bought a few perk potions)

No starting spells
Better magic
Apocalypse (Midas magic, forgotten magic redone, etc can be chosen instead)
Run for your lives
When vampires attack
Random vampire attacks disabled - Just to be certain
Expensive transports
Realistic room rental - basic (If enhanced then you have to go back to enhanced lights and FX and change menu)
Realistic humanoid movement speed
Increased bounty and guild rewards with reduced fedex rewards
Improved sneak detection
Skyrealism - detection

Animation and follower - After this I did a bash rebuild just in case I missed something.

XP skeleton
CBBE
Bodyslide 2
CBBEv3m
No more blocky faces
Fine face textures for men
Better female faces
Remodeled armor for CCBE and bodyslide (Optional if you want to perv)
Better followers
Better followers armour packs (Wrye thinks this is an oblivion TES4 file, but the modder really did a great job in changing the appearances of so many NPC's that it's a must have for me)
Improved NPC clothing
Respectful Lydia
Josh's skyrim behaviour
FNIS behaviour with spells and creatures
Wardrobe manager
HDT High heels
Female running and walking animation
Natural breast animation

Alternatively for a less sexed version just don't install:

Remodeled armor
CBBE, bodyslide 2, CBBEv3m and natural breast animation


After modding run game and copy .ini files into a new folder before doing following

I always run the game at this point to let MCM load up and see that it's working. I then quit out long before they reach Helgen.

At this point I'm on 25 fps having gone into game options and done some tweaks. Time to raise the FPS with Skyconfig.

Adjusting ini with options and skyconfig

.ini files give the game parameters and are found outside the game. In theory playing with .ini files should not result in any permanent changes because you're not actually affecting core game play code. So by practice and play you should start to see the difference.

Textures high (adjust to lower for FPS if need be)
Other checks depending on FPS and you may need to drop resolution, but not by much, will still look good. I play at 1366x768. 1920x1080 can be taxing, but do try it and other settings to see what works best.

uExterior Cell buffer = 64

Field of View 75 (Best go into console and type - FOV 75)
To access console press ` it's left of the number 1 on your keyboard (unless you have a different keyboard, mines UK standard)

Radial blur off
AA off
AS max and threaded

I'm threading because I have a quad core and by doing so I'm telling the others cores to do something, just in case they prefer to sit there idle, which if they did would put the strain on only one or two processors and hit my performance

V sync and rendered float point off (on if good fps)
Particles max(10000) and threaded
Decals off

Grid = 7 (note, if you have problems due to this higher adjustment, put it back to 5 and delete all your save games and start a new game.)

Threaded meshed, morpher and LODS
Unload cells on fast travel
Background lip and face gen on

Tree draw and load distance 22,000

Grass draw 3000
Density 50

Light fade, specular, sun update and threshold set to max (Sun update to max makes shadows update slower so they are static more, try it at minimum and you'll see they sway a lot, but in a nauseating fashion, so max this to stop it. Shadows like that are for a future game engine)

Shadows 1024
interior 5000
exterior 5000

Water: everything off

Best places to check FPS are:
-Swamp by Solitude as has lot of vegetation and water
-Falkreath for lots of trees
-Whiterun for tree and rendering distance (Make sure if paying with sexy Whiterun the Meadary roofs do not turn from yellow to blue - very annoying and immersion breaking)
Dungeons always have better FPS due to being enclosed spaces

If FPS well above 40 in all these areas start by increasing shadows, then water, then decals, and AA last. AA gives massive performance hits.

Shadows -> water as shadows are everywhere, water isn't (streams don't count)

At this point I'm now playing mostly around 40fps outdoors and 45-60fps in dungeons and when outside. The game looks good, I recommend runnning from Riverwood to Whiterun and seeing the x2 giant fight. If you're playing with ugrid 7 you will see a lot more detail further out, and it generally looks better in my opinion, with a whole lot of game content that makes the game way more of a fun simulation.

Have fun and I hope this has been of use to anyone. They're actually my notes, so I'm not offended if no one finds them useful, as I already have.
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MikuCore 14 avr à 9h35 
make this a guide...
if you havent already
mickydickybob 14 avr à 9h52 
Forgot to add, Helgen with this setting is really dark. Just put up with it for now. You will want torches, lanterns, candlelight and magelight later on in the game, but when you see Black Falls Burrow lit up nicely only due to enchanced lighting and finer dust with max particle effects, you're gonna be glad you did.
Bob 14 avr à 10h36 
This is very nice work, and if you make a Guide as NightCore suggested, I would be more than happy to place a link to it, in my Pinned Tread: Mods to Share with One Another

I'm afraid that all your hard work here, will only get lost, or burried in the shuffle. At least in a Pinned Thread, people will always see it when they visit it.
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mickydickybob 14 avr à 11h08 
Oh, two calls to guide it...okay, I'll review it and see if I've not explained anything well and put it up as a guide.
[KL] Master Dan [StormCats] 14 avr à 11h12 
Excellent work there bud. That took a lot of work. Make a guide :)
mickydickybob 14 avr à 11h39 
This is a screenshot of using all the above mods. This drops my fps to 21/22 at times, and is taken using 1366x768

So it shows it can be done.

http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=249233304
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happy 14 avr à 11h49 
IWANT ABIGSWORD and lol iwant bigboobs too!! XD!!!

ummhh...

your work is considered as important as my previous genius statement unless it gets stickied
it would be a shame that it got buried in the pile of yeepee threads

make a guide, you deserve better than a thread

great work
Dernière modification de happy; 14 avr à 11h50
It has been already said, but this was fantastic and definitly shoud be a guide. Just my one sense worth.
mickydickybob 14 avr à 12h42 
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=249246859

I'll post some more pics of the above mod list
mickydickybob 14 avr à 12h42 
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mickydickybob 14 avr à 12h54 
Okay, I will be making a guide and I'll try and put links in to all the mods I use.

BIG THANK YOU to all who have been so nice.

http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=249247122
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