Shadowshinra Mar 15 @ 9:31am
Crash around Pelagia farm with Giant/Companions
Me again with another new problem! Yay!!

Basically things have been playing fine, until I run towards Whiterun and see the Companions fighting the Giant, now, sometime before I get up to Aela, or a min or two after I've spoken to her, the game will exit/crash to desktop with no error, I honestly have no idea why, I thought perhaps since I only have 4GB ram at this time and the amount of mods I have on it might be running out of memory or something (even though it was playing fine until I run there) but it was only using around 1.6 most of the time.. anyone experienced anything similar and know the cause and the solution? Here's my current load order which is in the order BOSS puts them I believe:
Skyrim.esm=1
Update.esm=1
Dawnguard.esm=1
HearthFires.esm=1
Dragonborn.esm=1
Falskaar.esm=1
ApachiiHair.esm=1
RaceCompatibility.esm=1
ClimatesOfTamriel.esm=1
JSwords.esm=1
SGHairPackBase.esm=1
Unofficial Skyrim Patch.esp=1
RaceCompatibilityUSKPOverride.esp=1
Serana.esp=1
Better Dynamic Snow.esp=1
StaticMeshImprovementMod.esp=1
StaticMeshImprovementMod-DragonbornTernFix.esp=1
StaticMeshImprovementMod-FurnitureChestSnowFix.esp=1
ApachiiHelmetWigs.esp=1
Chesko_WearableLantern.esp=1
Immersive Brigands.esp=1
Immersive Dawnguard.esp=1
Immersive Dragonborn.esp=1
Immersive Factions.esp=1
Immersive Patrols.esp=1
Immersive Travelers.esp=1
Immersive Werewolves.esp=1
DYNAVISION Dynamic Depth of Field.esp=1
IMAGINATOR - Visual Control for Skyrim.esp=1
RaceMenu.esp=1
RaceMenuPlugin.esp=1
SkyUI.esp=1
IMAGINATOR - MCMenu.esp=1
Immersive Weapons.esp=1
JSwordsDistributionBalancePlugin.esp=1
Remodeled Armor - Vanilla Replacer.esp=1
Remodeled Armor - Vanilla Replacer - Dawnguard.esp=1
Remodeled Armor - Vanilla Replacer - Dragonborn.esp=1
SPOAsilverknight.esp=1
Unique Uniques.esp=1
FalskaarDawnguard.esp=1
EnhancedLightsandFX.esp=1
ELFX - Exteriors.esp=1
ELFX - Dawnguard.esp=1
ELFX - Dragonborn.esp=1
ClimatesOfTamriel-Dawnguard-Patch.esp=1
ClimatesOfTamriel-Dragonborn-Patch.esp=1
ClimatesOfTamriel-Interiors-Warm.esp=1
CoT-WeatherPatch.esp=1
CoT-WeatherPatch_DB.esp=1
ELFXEnhancer.esp=1
DVA - Dynamic Vampire Appearance.esp=1
Better Vampires ML.esp=1
Random Vampire Attacks in Towns Disabled.esp=1
Apocalypse - The Spell Package.esp=1
Lost Magic.esp=1
SGEyebrows.esp=1
SGHairPackAIO.esp=1
TheEyesOfBeauty.esp=1
LunariRace.esp=1
SuccubusRaceLite.esp=1
The Ningheim.esp=1
TemptressVixen.esp=1
EMCompViljaSkyrim.esp=1
ErynielElfV2.esp=1
UFO - Ultimate Follower Overhaul.esp=1
BW v2.6.esp=1
rk_Followers CBBE.esp=1
Aela.esp=1
Amanda.esp=1
Frea.esp=1
Kamille.esp=1
Kate.esp=1
Lyla.esp=1
Mei.esp=1
Michelle.esp=1
Misha.esp=1
Rayya.esp=1
VictoriaVelina.esp=1
CerwidenCompanion.esp=1
01VampireNoDirtTintmask.esp=1
CharGen Morphs.esp=1
NormalVampireFaces.esp=1
ethereal_elven_overhaul.esp=1
EEO Morphs.esp=1
Purewaters.esp=1
FollowerCompatibility.esp=1
ASIS-Dependency.esp=1

Heres a Papyrus log since sometimes people like to look through them to see what's going on, but I have no clue what to look for.. http://pastebin.com/dhNT8eC6
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TheNovemberMan Mar 15 @ 10:02am 
Unoffical skyrim patch should be sitting right under Updates.esm
Shadowshinra Mar 15 @ 10:24am 
Originally posted by Trigger:
Unoffical skyrim patch should be sitting right under Updates.esm

Oh yeah, moved it back, but that was never going to fix it, that just solves another issue I could have had later lol

Also, been trying to see if I can get into whiterun without it CTDing but this time it just full on froze and didn't crash to desktop..
Last edited by Shadowshinra; Mar 15 @ 10:25am
Ilja (Ref) Mar 15 @ 11:06am 
Is this really the newest log?

It looks to me like you are loading a character from the save file that is missing a lot of mod information. For example, your log mentiones Hoth and Kitiara characters, but I fail to find either of them from your loading order. It even tries to enable quest conditions related to Kitiara.

"Better Vampires" is also acting up big time. It seems to be missing data, but I can't pinpoint the source. It might be either game or mod related.

Have you tried to create a completely new character? As said, from this Papyrus log it seems that you have been recycling the same one.
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Garlin - Inv na GO = delete Mar 15 @ 11:11am 
hello
Shadowshinra Mar 15 @ 11:23am 
Originally posted by Ref:
Is this really the newest log?

It looks to me like you are loading a character from the save file that is missing a lot of mod information. For example, your log mentiones Hoth and Kitiara characters, but I fail to find either of them from your loading order. It even tries to enable quest conditions related to Kitiara.

"Better Vampires" is also acting up big time. It seems to be missing data, but I can't pinpoint the source. It might be either game or mod related.

Have you tried to create a completely new character? As said, from this Papyrus log it seems that you have been recycling the same one.

Nope, that's definitely the latest log since I deleted all the logs to ensure I was copying a fresh one and the character is reasonably new and any mods I've added in after starting her shouldn't effect anything since they've all been like lighting or armor/weapon mods and I've never even installed Hoth or Kitiara O.O Perhaps that's coming from the follower compatibility patch mod? And BV is messing up? Odd, before this new character I did a test vampire character to see if the vamp mods I had were working fine and they looked normal, although I do remember having the tier 3 vampire spell right at the beginning, I'll reinstall it later but I don't think a vampire mod should effect that area near whiterun.

Ilja (Ref) Mar 15 @ 11:30am 
Better Vampires was acting up, but as I said, I couldn't pinpoint why. See the information around lines 86 and 87. Before this freezing we can see whole lot of scripts acting around Better Vampires. Below of them we can see how many misloaded lines is coming for non-existing followers.

That is why I suspected that this was a recycled character. If that is not the case, then your mod environment seems to be missing some amount of information from other packs of mods.
Last edited by Ilja (Ref); Mar 15 @ 11:31am
Shadowshinra Mar 15 @ 11:45am 
Originally posted by Ref:
Better Vampires was acting up, but as I said, I couldn't pinpoint why. See the information around lines 86 and 87. Before this freezing we can see whole lot of scripts acting around Better Vampires. Below of them we can see how many misloaded lines is coming for non-existing followers.

That is why I suspected that this was a recycled character. If that is not the case, then your mod environment seems to be missing some amount of information from other packs of mods.

Yeah, I'll uninstall the BV mod and the follower compatibility mod (since I only have it for the Mei and Ceri fix but I don't think I'll ever use them at the same time anyway) and make a new character and speed run to the farm and see if anything has changed.
ヤンデレ Mar 15 @ 12:11pm 
I can't pinpoint it exact problem but I'll share what I can see and know by my own trials and errors.
First off, you seem to have several custom races, now they shouldn't be a problem but there is no point in having more then one active, the one you play, as the rest will just take up unnecessary loading space.

Secondly your load order seems, off to me. Is it done by BOSS? The more mods BOSS has to sort the less accurate it gets and eventually it will put one mod or another wrong. The game will still start up but one mod could request scripts from a mod below it thus crashing when nearing this point where the script is requested.

And finally thirdly (This is what it sounds like is the problem when you describe it).
Mods that changes Aela, anything from combat related to pure visuals tends to crash unless in the exact correct order in the list. (No it's not UFO as much as it changes followers and Aela is one of them, it's safe.)
I can't tell you why only Aela is this stubborn when it comes to changes and no one else but I just know she is. I have SBF (Skyrim Beautiful Follwers) and there is a reason why the mod author left Aela out of the main file for so long and only had her as a optional file that he recommended to only be installed after the companions main quest was done.
Shadowshinra Mar 15 @ 12:12pm 
Originally posted by Ref:
Better Vampires was acting up, but as I said, I couldn't pinpoint why. See the information around lines 86 and 87. Before this freezing we can see whole lot of scripts acting around Better Vampires. Below of them we can see how many misloaded lines is coming for non-existing followers.

That is why I suspected that this was a recycled character. If that is not the case, then your mod environment seems to be missing some amount of information from other packs of mods.


Interesting, did what I said above but instead of making a new character right away I loaded up my current one first and actually made it to whiterun without any issues whatsoever now that those two mods are gone, perhaps it was just a fluke, I'll post another update if it does eventually crash again. In the meantime I've noticed a new problem, my Shadows flicker like crazy, it's especially noticable on my character and other NPC, it's extremely distracting, I have the I can't believe it's not an ENB mod and the ELFX lighting mod, anything I can do to fix it? http://i.imgur.com/DyxfsSj.jpg See the shadows on her body (which in itself is weird since I'm out in the open in broad day light so there shouldn't be that much shadow on her lol) they basically jiggle around like a saw blade
Shadowshinra Mar 15 @ 12:19pm 
Originally posted by 冷凍庫箱:
I can't pinpoint it exact problem but I'll share what I can see and know by my own trials and errors.
First off, you seem to have several custom races, now they shouldn't be a problem but there is no point in having more then one active, the one you play, as the rest will just take up unnecessary loading space.

Secondly your load order seems, off to me. Is it done by BOSS? The more mods BOSS has to sort the less accurate it gets and eventually it will put one mod or another wrong. The game will still start up but one mod could request scripts from a mod below it thus crashing when nearing this point where the script is requested.

And finally thirdly (This is what it sounds like is the problem when you describe it).
Mods that changes Aela, anything from combat related to pure visuals tends to crash unless in the exact correct order in the list. (No it's not UFO as much as it changes followers and Aela is one of them, it's safe.)
I can't tell you why only Aela is this stubborn when it comes to changes and no one else but I just know she is. I have SBF (Skyrim Beautiful Follwers) and there is a reason why the mod author left Aela out of the main file for so long and only had her as a optional file that he recommended to only be installed after the companions main quest was done.


Yeah that's done by Boss, and I only just recently installed the Bijin Warmaidens mod including the seperate Aela part which is why her name shows up in the load order so that too could be it, however right now as said above it could also somehow be the two mods I just uninstalled which is a shame since I wanted to experiment with a vampire character without all the flaws from the vanilla version..
Ilja (Ref) Mar 15 @ 12:34pm 
I have to admit knowing very little about ENBs. While my computer can hanlde them + mods related, there is a lot of WIP stuff in my game right now. I haven't made a progress for a while. Each launch has been tests and bughunts.

Can someone else help with this one?
Shadowshinra Mar 15 @ 12:59pm 
Originally posted by Ref:
I have to admit knowing very little about ENBs. While my computer can hanlde them + mods related, there is a lot of WIP stuff in my game right now. I haven't made a progress for a while. Each launch has been tests and bughunts.

Can someone else help with this one?

Haha, no problem if you can't help however the I Cant Believe Its NOT An ENB mod isn't an Enb ;P Ahoy a new problem after getting into whiterun as per the earlier post I saved and quit to make that post, now however it appears that save has gone corrupt, since upon loading it/ hitting continue, I just get placed into a forever loading screen! Guess I'll have to make a new character after all..
Alkpaz Mar 15 @ 1:24pm 
I do not crash there.. but I run with SSME and ENBoost.. (back last March 2013 I used to crash near Whiterun quite often), that and Windhelm. After SSME and ENBoost no crashes. I've ALWAYS had BV in my load order.. and it recently got updated as well.. make sure your running the latest. (Version 6.6) The only crash I seem to experience.. but have not seen this happen for me since I removed all "bug fix" mods from my game, was I would CTD upon loading the game first but it would not do it the second time.. weird issue, but I think I may have beaten it.. I even went as far as removing shadows, ugrids 3, etc.. to see if it was a memory issue.. it wasn't, reinstalled Skyrim n focused more "necessary ones" which included "bug fix" mods and I experienced the same occurance.. I removed them.. no more CTD at start.. I guess because those "fixes" also run scripts within the BSA files and thus overloads papyrus. (Only thing I could think of)
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Adura Mar 15 @ 1:28pm 
For what it's worth, I had a similar problem of always crashing at the farm upon using a new character.


After quite some time, I found that disabling the unofficial patches fixed it wonderfully. Hadn't had a problem since.
Last edited by Adura; Mar 15 @ 1:28pm
Dr. Shocks . DO Mar 15 @ 1:28pm 
Does the crash still happen on a new character?
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