Skyrimnut Mar 5, 2014 @ 3:58am
The last build; of fun and folly
I've played this game a ton and I decided to play the final build with a group of mods, to again, test them for a collection. I had started a similar testing thread a while back, but then I saw the khajiit like to sneak video on Youtube (it's very funny). It compelled me to play a khajiit, so I started again.

Race: Khajiit, for no other reason than aesthetics. I almost named him Mr. Buttons, but decided on a more sensible Do'Raska instead. I regret the decision.

Major skills: Heavy Armor, Block, Destruction, Alteration, Smithing

Minor skills: Restoration, Archery, who knows what else.

The only skill bonus is in archery, otherwise, the khajiit is pretty useless for this build. It doesn't matter.

Stone: First Lady, then Lord, endgame Atronach

Rules for the build

No enchanting
No alchemy
Limited smithing - can only improve what I find, make arrows, and build materials for the HF homes, that's it. No making armor.
No stealing
No sneaking
Loot everything
Only use the bow when on a horse; otherwise just spell and shield or claws.

At level 35 now. All points were put into health and stamina. No magicka; only regen and any equipment I pick up. it's plenty. Currently wearing Steel helmet of major destruction, mage's circlet (mod lets me wear circlets with helmets), ring of major destruction, dwarven armor of major destruction, dwarven boots of either frost or fire (I have conditioning perk so I carry both), steel plate bracers of major archery, the Gaulder amulet (I have a mod that makes it pretty sweet). I carry the Aetherial shield (it is not useless), Spell breaker, and the Shield of Solitude. Zephyr is the bow of choice until I find something better. I got super lucky with some early loot drops and a master lock and had most of my equipment by level 15. I'm looking out for some ebony, but now I'm having crappy luck with drops.

So far, having a blast. It's a nice change from my other builds which I tend to take very seriously. All the major questlines will be done with the big goal being to do the TG without stealing or stealth. It is the final hurrah for this game, as I need to move on and play other ones, but I wanted one last fun build. I'll list the mods being used and the perk spread in another post. My screenshot library has a ton of photos from the build.

No, I am not taking this build very seriously.

http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=234953581

Thanks for looking. :)



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Draaf fah Hahlor Mar 5, 2014 @ 4:15am 
Khajiit needs to tidy his room, no. ;)
Skyrimnut Mar 5, 2014 @ 4:22am 
Originally posted by pariah:
Khajiit needs to tidy his room, no. ;)

Spring cleaning, Khajiit style!

http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=234953687
Draaf fah Hahlor Mar 5, 2014 @ 4:32am 
Good luck with the build, Thieves Guild without stealth and stealing, umm i think that could be a struggle, but it's something i've never tried, let us know how that goes.
Skyrimnut Mar 5, 2014 @ 4:48am 
Originally posted by pariah:
Good luck with the build, Thieves Guild without stealth and stealing, umm i think that could be a struggle, but it's something i've never tried, let us know how that goes.

The key may lie in the Numbers jobs and the possible use of invisibility potions. Been a while since I did the TG but I don't recall much actual stealing in the main story of the questline. It's the jobs for Vex and Delvin that involve heavy stealing.
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Draaf fah Hahlor Mar 5, 2014 @ 4:55am 
Yeah numbers jobs are easy to do, 125 of them will take awhile, and what about goldenglow estate, i have done goldenglow on pure stealth no kills, it aint easy but its doable, but you still have to steal i think for the bill of sale, then there's the bee in the jar, the golden honey bee for Delvin, i know they're optional, but me i have to have it all..
gnewna Mar 5, 2014 @ 4:56am 
You'll have to at least attempt a theft to get in (although I guess you could intentionally bungle it, but assuming the character wants to join the guild and thus wants to impress Brynjolf, that doesn't make much sense except in a meta way because obviously we know that he'll still take you on if you fail). Also Goldenglow could be, well, certainly rather more bloodbathy if you don't at least attempt a bit of sneaking. Still, if that's what you're going for..!

And yep, taking the bill of sale is definitely stealing (can't remember if it's marked red or not, but come on...) and it doesn't really make sense to tail somebody without sneaking a little bit, unless you tail them by a LOT and just rely on basically already knowing where to go.
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happy Mar 5, 2014 @ 5:40am 
Mr buttons would have been way cooler i agree
Skyrimnut Mar 5, 2014 @ 6:15am 
Originally posted by pariah:
Yeah numbers jobs are easy to do, 125 of them will take awhile, and what about goldenglow estate, i have done goldenglow on pure stealth no kills, it aint easy but its doable, but you still have to steal i think for the bill of sale, then there's the bee in the jar, the golden honey bee for Delvin, i know they're optional, but me i have to have it all..

The items in the Litany of Larceny are not marked red. Hehehehe... Yep, 125 of those jobs will take a while for sure. Again, the build is about the silliness of it. A completely inept Khajiit can become Guild Master. I'm not even using the race the right way. For goodness sakes, he bashes his way through Skyrim.

@gnewma - I bungled getting in deliberately. Bloodbath would be a fun way to do it.

I've done the TG the right way before, I just want to do something different with it. Like doing the DB without stealth or bounties. I did that questline perfectly already as well. All the bonuses and stuff like that. I don't need that stuff this time around, so things can get a bit dirty. My favorite part will be walzing right up to targets and doing the "I'm from the Dark Brotherhood" line. No beating around the bush. I may do the Wedding quest sort of correctly, because it leads to the ancient shrouded armor, I believe.

@happy - yeah, it stinks. He's just such a Mr. Buttons type too.
gnewna Mar 5, 2014 @ 7:03am 
Heh, fair enough, I guess! FWIW, I believe the token bonus thing for getting to the ASA is actually from Maro the younger, can't remember what you get for doing the WQ right, might be something boring like 'some extra gold'. *yawn* Have fun!
Trigger Mar 5, 2014 @ 8:40am 
Be a hero to the people of Riften and destroy the Thieves Guild =( a mod called "Destroy The Thieves Guild") awesome mod, I've used the mod myself.
Brandybuck Mar 5, 2014 @ 8:53am 
Bashing your way through golden glow is certainly possible, but I don't think Maven would be too happy about it. You'll lose your bonus. You'll be the Luca Brasi of the TG mafia.
Skyrimnut Mar 5, 2014 @ 11:19am 
Originally posted by Brandybuck:
Bashing your way through golden glow is certainly possible, but I don't think Maven would be too happy about it. You'll lose your bonus. You'll be the Luca Brasi of the TG mafia.

Maven Schmaven, de only thing dat dame cares about are the precious hives. The rest, including the little scumbag elf, can take a hike as far as she's concerned. Rest asured Mr. Buttons won't ruin her little hives. Only the 3 that she asked me to rough up for her. Mr. Buttons delivers.

The bonus is earned by not destroying anymore than three hives. Best thing I've done in the past is use a flame enchanted bow for those hives, then only use frost based spells for the exterior to not set more on fire. Once inside, well, then all Heck breaks loose and I can fireball my way through. If the little elf protests or attacks, well then, the little elf can sleep with the fishes. But he won't, why, you ask? Cause Mr. Buttons has really good speech skills cause of all that loot selling. Lol, Luca Brasi, love The Godfather.

@Trigger, I have indeed done that mod several times. I usually pair it up with the mod Finding Mercer Frey. Trust me, that grouping is awesome and very compatible.
Skyrimnut Mar 7, 2014 @ 4:44am 
Well, here comes the folly part. I restarted the game. As I said, I'm testing mods for a collection and while all of them worked together, I didn't like some of the mods that were there. To remove the mods would probably break the game. The ones that went were...

Better death loot - too much loot, you lose the challenge of finding things, I didn't think that the loot would be increased by that much. Breaks the game.
Left hand rings - pointless in a no enchanting build. And if I have a build that does enchanting in the future, I have mods that allow circlets to be worn with hoods and helmets, so plenty of slots.
Display cases fix for Winstad - I found a series of three mods that does all three HF homes.
Realistic lighting - I love this mod, especially what it does to dungeons, however, it makes houses too dark and I didn't want to carry a torch in my own home. Opted for Project Reality Lite instead. The vistas are more beautiful and it doesn't affect interiors.

The new build is basically the same, will have the same areas of focus. I named him Mr. Buttons. Yes, I did it. I feel better. I can bs about mods all I want, but subconciously I probably restarted a level 36 character JUST to name it Mr. Buttons. I am at peace.

Meet Mr. Buttons; I made him extra menacing for irony.

http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=235659847

Same ideas - Major skills, blocking, heavy armor, destruction, alteration, smithing. Minor skills, restoration and archery. He will bash his way through Companions, Mage's college, Thieves guild, Civil War, Mainquest, Dawnguard, Dragonborn, Some Daedric quests, Side quests, Wyrmstooth, Northern Encounters, and Moonpath to Elsweyr. I think he'll destroy the DB.

No crafting except to make initial iron armor, which He's already thrown away for the steel one the Jarl gave as a present, improving what he finds, and crafting arrows. No alchemy or enchanting.

@Brandybuck - what you said in another thread about the merchant chests and exploits got to me. This build will not use them. I am reformed and have seen the light. I am not perfect, because I have others things that may perhaps break the game, but that one really does break the game, I agree.

Day one was spent in typical Skyrim fashion as I'm not running Alternate start, I have it, it's just not active. As I am poor and not exploiting with extra loot or secret chests, there will be much wood chopping and ore mining. I almost have enough to get Mr. Buttons a horsey. Honest gold for honest work.

http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=235660463

MageThis Mar 7, 2014 @ 5:13am 
Yeeaaah, somehow I doubt it is the "Last" build... you are having too much fun for it to be even the next to last build. BTW, keep your eye on that tail, with that axe swing you don't want to stump it.
Skyrimnut Mar 7, 2014 @ 5:34am 
Originally posted by MageThis:
Yeeaaah, somehow I doubt it is the "Last" build... you are having too much fun for it to be even the next to last build. BTW, keep your eye on that tail, with that axe swing you don't want to stump it.

Lol, you are probably right and my fiance laughed at me when I said I was restarting. For the curious here is the mod list that is being tested. Anally grouped into their appropriate categories. I believe there are 77 total.

Enhancing the look and sounds of the game
Project Reality:Climates Of Tamriel - Lite Version
Ultimate NPC Face Unlocker
XCE - Xenius Character Enhancement
Elemental Staffs
Sounds of Skyrim - The Wilds
Sounds of Skyrim - The Dungeons
Ridiculously Marvelous Magelight Replacer
Birds and Flocks Hearthfire Edition
Static Mesh Improvement Mod - SMIM Part 5
Static Mesh Improvement Mod - SMIM Part 4
Static Mesh Improvement Mod - SMIM Part 3
Static Mesh Improvement Mod - SMIM Part 2
Static Mesh Improvement Mod - SMIM Part 1
Water And Terrain Enhancement Redux
Vurt Flora Overhaul (Redux)
Lush Grass
HD Plants + Herbs
Vibrant Auroras
HQ snow texture
Deeper Snow (More Snow)
Better Dynamic snow
Enhanced Distant Terrain
Enhanced Blood Textures 3.5d

Utilities and small fixes
Wearable Lanterns - Legacy (2.2a)
Hearthfire Houses Fix. Windstad Manor.
Hearthfire Houses Fix. Lakeview Manor.
Hearthfire Houses Fix.Heljarchen Hall.
Nord Hero Arrow Fix
Shezrie's Winstad Hearthfire Kitchen
House Mods
Severin Manor Improvements
The Paarthurnax Dilemma
General fixes to followers
Droppable Stones of Barenziah
Droppable Dragonborn Black Books
Droppable Dawnguard Elder Scrolls
Localized Thieves Guild Jobs
Bandolier - Bags and Pouches
Unlimited Bookshelves
Improved Smithing

Overhauls and gameplay
Guard Dialogue Overhaul
Alternate Start - Live Another Life
The Hunting Game
2X Slower Leveling
Be a Milk Drinker - HEARTHFIRE EDITION
Cooking Overhaul
More Dragons!
Longer Dragon Battles 2x (Dawnguard Addon)
Longer Dragon Battles 2x (Dragonborn Addon)
Longer Dragon Battles 2x
Levelled Summons Redux – Dawnguard
Levelled Summons Redux – Dragonborn
Levelled Summons Redux
A Hypothetical Treachery - Destruction Remastered
Better Combat AI
Kill Them Generals

Mods of a more dubious nature. Some would view these as cheats or exploits, and I’d agree with them. However, they improve my experience sufficiently enough that I warrant their inclusion. Many of them encourage a no crafting build. IMO, abusive crafting can be just as exploitive.
Oblivious Horses - Ess, Stam, & Spd - Dawnguard Ready
Ultimate Archmage - Dawnguard Edition - v1.5
Longer Lasting Mage Armor
Increased Merchant Gold Count
Shorter Dragon Shout Cooldown
Essential Dog Followers
Dragon Blood - Extra Perk Points
More loot from chests
Wear Circlets with Hoods
Helms with Circlets
Non-Leveled Item Rewards
Clothing and Smithing Pack
Arcane Blacksmith Level 20
Gaulder Amulet Now Much More Useful
Dragon Priest Masks Enhanced

New content – essentially 3 dlcs worth of material.
Wisplicker Pahmar follower
Clyde the Imga follower
Moonpath HD texture pack
Moonpath to Elsweyr
Northern Encounters v2.7b
Wyrmstooth

Ok, time for some breakfast and to go play! Thanks for looking and I apologize for the length. Please feel free to comment or ask questions about the mods being used.

Skyrimnut
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