Charlemagne Feb 17 @ 6:18pm
Saadia or the Alikr?
Who to believe? This is one of those dilemmas with no clear-cut argument. UESP used to argue for the Alikr, but has since been editted to a neutral position.
I used to believe the Alikr, they seem like decent chaps. But I kind of like Saadia and the other day she gave me a gift and said something nice. That sure hit my soft spot.
Frankly, I would like to ignore this dilemma, let both Saadia and the Alikr live and leave me out of their business but this is a quest you almost can't avoid if you want to use the gate of Whiterun, sooner or later you'll have to talk with the Alikr and the quest will be on. And I hate to have an unresolved quest hanging in my journal.
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Mr.Shaggnificent Feb 17 @ 6:35pm 
Use your personal, real live views to determine the out come.

Would you rather fight the power and stick it to The Man? Then side with Saadia.

or...

Do you believe the cops/courts/govt. only have your best intresets at heart? Then side with the Alikr.
Steve Saint James Feb 17 @ 6:36pm 
I generally side with the Alikr as their story makes more sense though it's been awhile since I've played Skyrim.
wfandrews54 Feb 17 @ 6:40pm 
I usually side with Saadia as I am a sucker for a woman in distress.
Incunabulum Feb 17 @ 6:58pm 
Or, accept that you don't have enough information to make a decisions and either:

Be a man and ignore the quest hanging out in your quest log (or get The Choice Is Yours so these quests aren't forced into your log http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/26359)

or

pick the side that's more profitable. Afterwards kill the other side.


Here Dragonborn, this is for you. You did a good job for me.

[hands over a purse]

Oh I almost forgot. She payed me a thousand. I think her idea was that I kill you.

[they both laugh]

But you know the pity is when I'm paid, I always follow my job through. You know that.

Dragonborn Noo!

[he is stabbed in the face]
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Alchemist Feb 17 @ 7:24pm 
Help Kematu out, Wait for Kematu to paralyze Saadia, Collect 500 Gold. Kill Kematu, & Cast Calm on Saadia when paralyze wears off. Collect 500 Gold for killing Kematu. When calm wears off Saadia will come to her senses and attack you. Kill her in self defense. Loot Both Kematu, & Saadia for some extra Coin. It's obvious they where both lying anyways.
~ Hail Breton...ia.. or something like that.
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CAP Feb 17 @ 7:35pm 
I am a Thane of Whiterun and nobody, including/especially mercenaries, comes arrogantly strolling into my town/hold/country (I'm Thane of many holds) and starts bullying the citizenry. Saadia is under my protection and the Alik'r either behave themselve or die. It is that simple.
Edit: Doesn't matter who's lying, this is my turf.
2nd edit: also, just like wfandrews54, I too am sucker for a damsel in distress.
Last edited by CAP; Feb 19 @ 4:46pm
j_c402 Feb 17 @ 7:51pm 
I think Saadia is the liar. She says that the Alik'r are after her because she spoke out against the Aldmeri dominion. Is speaking out such a threat that the Thalmor would hire an outside source to eliminate her? And then Heimskr stands in the city square in Whiterun critisizing the dominion and no one seems to mind.

-Arch Stanton
Incunabulum Feb 17 @ 8:02pm 
Originally posted by j_c402:
I think Saadia is the liar. She says that the Alik'r are after her because she spoke out against the Aldmeri dominion. Is speaking out such a threat that the Thalmor would hire an outside source to eliminate her? And then Heimskr stands in the city square in Whiterun critisizing the dominion and no one seems to mind.

-Arch Stanton

Sure. Heimskr is a nobody - a mad gibbering fool that no-one takes seriously. Not that he won't meet a sharp blade in a dark alley eventually.
j_c402 Feb 17 @ 8:11pm 
Okay, I guess you guys are in "evil mode". Kill everyone for the gold, I guess. But I think Saadia is the con-artist.
PyrokaPyre Feb 17 @ 8:42pm 
When in doubt, kill everything and loot the corpses. It's worked for me so far.
Ser Christoph Feb 17 @ 8:59pm 
Originally posted by Alchemist:
Help Kematu out, Wait for Kematu to paralyze Saadia, Collect 500 Gold. Kill Kematu, & Cast Calm on Saadia when paralyze wears off. Collect 500 Gold for killing Kematu. When calm wears off Saadia will come to her senses and attack you. Kill her in self defense. Loot Both Kematu, & Saadia for some extra Coin. It's obvious they where both lying anyways.
~ Hail Breton...ia.. or something like that.

Fire Chest laser! For Victory!
Bubba Fatt Feb 17 @ 9:01pm 
protecting Saadia is not worth the risk it brings to those who are innoncent. Killing Kematu does nothing to stop the Alikir from harasssing others along the roads of Skyrim. I give them Saadia so they take her and leave Skyrim. Skyrim is for the Nords!
Ilja (Ref) Feb 17 @ 10:05pm 
I am with CAP in this one. Saadia is a citizen of Whiterun and Hulda's protegee. Dovahkiin is the thane of Whiterun, so Saadia is practicallu under his/her protection. No vague accusations are enough for me to hand her over.

Besides, we are in Skyirm, not in Hammerfell. Kematu's little posse has zero authority around here. They have their problems and we have Dovahkiin.
Leo Star Dragon 1 Feb 17 @ 11:16pm 
Hello, Revered Ancestor! By coincidence, that is one of my most recently completed quests. This time, I sided with her. I even killed the guy that asked my too look for her in the first place, and he was very surprised. I paid the fine for that, and I was fine afterwards as it turned out. I was able to progress the quest normally, up until I was in the bandit lair by the waterfall. Then I couldn't resist an experiment. I used the Console to kill Kematu's men, one by one, with each death resulting in Kematu or another man, swearing to find who did it. Then I accidently killed Kematu, rather than the man right next to him, probably because of overlap. The quest updated as if I had killed him on purpose. Curious, I returned to Saadia, and it ended well then, as if I'd done the deed on purpse, just like in other games before, when I had done so.

She was happy and resumed her duties at the inn. I went outside and began using the "PlaceAt Me" command, and Kematu was still angry from his first death I reckon, but this time the guards got to him, as well as to Thomas. During this melee, one of my followers somehow became a target for the guards and my other followers. But anyway, long anecdote short, I've played the quest out both ways, more than once, and I think I always get more satisfaction from helping her out, rather than him. So, there. That's my take on it. I hope it helps. :-) EDIT: By the way, when I used, "Revered Ancestor", I was addressing, "Charlemagne".
Last edited by Leo Star Dragon 1; Feb 18 @ 8:34pm
I helped the Alik'r because they were fellow assassins. Gotta help a brotha out.
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