Lucid Feb 11 @ 9:38pm
Do You Consider Video Games Art?
A subject that I've seen popping up again among people, and something I feel a lot of people will never understand.

http://youtu.be/0ZvKkY7DPxo
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[RF] Samaister Feb 11 @ 9:41pm 
No.
katzenkrimis Feb 11 @ 10:37pm 

To answer that, first you have to learn the history of art.

During the Middle Ages, The Arts were very scholarly, limited to seven in number and did not involve creating anything at which people looked. They were:

•grammar
•rhetoric
•dialectic logic
•arithmetic
•geometry
•astronomy
•music

These seven Arts were known as the Fine Arts.

During the 20th-century we started to split the Fine Arts up into Visual Arts (painting, sculpture, etc.), Auditory Arts (music, drama, spoken literature) and Performance Arts (which can be either visual, auditory or a combination of the two -- but are performed).

That said, movies & video games are not art.

It's important to note, however, that artists are part of the crew in both filmmaking and game design. Visit their homes and they will show you their art. But the finished product of a film or video game, can't be considered a piece of art.

To paraphrase something Coppola noted years ago, the great hope of film-as-art remains with a fourteen-year old girl holding a cheap digital video camera. She won't have to answer to accountants and her personal vision will be available for download on the Internet. The artist will prevail.

A movie reviewer won't see much art or meaning in a Michael Bay flick. Even though many artists worked on that film.

Transformers: Dark of the Moon isn't considered art.

Neither is Skyrim.
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AppleJack Feb 11 @ 10:39pm 
Making a game is but playing one...not so much
The Ugly Feb 11 @ 10:57pm 
Games always include art aspects, but some of those aspects are much more commercial while others are more focused on the artistic aspect. Games themselves can be art if made with that intent.
Trigger Feb 12 @ 12:06am 
Art is in the eyes of the beholder
pike Feb 12 @ 4:04am 
they can/could be , most are just mindless diversion and simple entertainment like tv or a movie
ConnorAKAthor377 Feb 12 @ 4:06am 
I think that games ARE art, I just dpn't consider them as such whilst playing them.
Prometheus Unbound Feb 12 @ 4:22am 
If we are to include the visual arts in this, then yes i would say that SOME games can be art. There are some games out there that are so visually awesome (i mean that in its literal sense: worthy of much awe) that i cant help but just stop, not play, just sit there looking at the games scenery. For me Skyrim is one of these games.

I remember the first time i played it and got past the prologue (helgen) you see the plains of whiterun, for the first time, My mouth just fell open. I remember the first time i saw the Aurora's at night and just watched. And then there is the score. I have it as digital download. I listen to it a lot, beautiful.

Is not art something we can look at or hear and all we can do is stop there and respect it as a beautiful thing, a masterpiece in our own minds. Some games just do their visuals so well that if you were to take a screenshot of one it would be indistinguishable from other arts. It would be art. If you took the music of, say, a game like skyrim, the score is worthy of someone like John Williams. Its art. Put that all together, you have art. Anyway, my two penneth.
J3X Feb 12 @ 7:57am 
Being the case that a game consists of pieces of arts, yes.
Music - art.
2D Textures - art.
3D models - art.
Storyline - art.
Why would it not be art if you threw all that together?
gnewna Feb 12 @ 8:19am 
Originally posted by katzenkrimis:
To paraphrase something Coppola noted years ago, the great hope of film-as-art remains with a fourteen-year old girl holding a cheap digital video camera. She won't have to answer to accountants and her personal vision will be available for download on the Internet. The artist will prevail.

I'm not convinced that "not influenced by commercial interests" is necessarily a prerequisite for something being considered art - aren't rather a lot of the pieces in most classical art galleries things which were painted on commission or similar? The ceiling of the Sistine Chapel wasn't just done by a guy with a vision sneaking into the chapel at night, it was bought and paid for, but it's still art, surely? Maybe I've misunderstood, though.

I don't think most video games are necessarily art (or should be expected to be - crafts are just as worthy as art, IMO), but it seems a bit bizarre to issue a blanket statement that none of them are or ever could be, particularly with the increasing number of indie developers with a strong artistic sensibility.
MageThis Feb 12 @ 8:22am 
Useless discussion. Check out what the Canadian government or rather swivel service lackeys accepted as art: rotting meat; wide red stripe on canvas; used condoms (by the artist) hanging from trees ad nauseum.
In any case, the O/P just wanted hits to hisher video and it has nothing to do with this forum.
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Pumba70 Feb 12 @ 8:55am 
These folks prove a pretty good point! :D

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xxZQv5OweQ4
ballpoint202 Feb 12 @ 9:50am 
Like any other form of entertainment, a video game can be art but probably isn't.
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