Mike Jun 17 @ 12:36pm
The stormcloaks would actually be quite capable at defending Skyrim from the Thalmor.
What with a mindbending, dragon commanding, shouting dragonborn at their back. They could potentially have a pseudo airforce.
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Burnt Chicken Jun 17 @ 12:39pm 
No, they dont,the imperials have redguards and orcs the imperials are no match for the redguards since they have the and the orcs have sauron on their side so no.
Sierdto Jun 17 @ 12:41pm 
Only dragonborn can kill dragons so.. this would work! F*xk them all >:)
Maloy20 Jun 17 @ 12:51pm 
Originally posted by buttercrotch:
No, they dont,the imperials have redguards and orcs the imperials are no match for the redguards since they have the and the orcs have sauron on their side so no.
Actually the redguards are an independent nation now that resents the empire for its abandonment.

So the Empire only has Bretons and humans at the moment for sure. Nords are up in the air obviously about their alignment
Two Bears Jun 17 @ 12:52pm 
Okay, but the Empire gets Numidium.
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TheNovemberMan Jun 17 @ 12:56pm 
NPC'S can kill dragons too, i've watch them do it while i was regaining my health.
gnewna Jun 17 @ 12:58pm 
Yeah, so long as nobody kidnaps and disposes of the Dragonborn in her sleep, of course... Never wise to bet your whole country on one individual, however bad their ♥♥♥.
Mike Jun 17 @ 1:21pm 
Originally posted by Two Bears:
Okay, but the Empire gets Numidium.
Remember The warp in the West ?
Mike Jun 17 @ 1:23pm 
Originally posted by gnewna:
Yeah, so long as nobody kidnaps and disposes of the Dragonborn in her sleep, of course... Never wise to bet your whole country on one individual, however bad their ♥♥♥.
Assuming the Dragonborn can live as long as those geezers up at High Hrothgar. He/she could potentially teach other people everything he/she knows.
Two Bears Jun 17 @ 1:33pm 
Originally posted by Mike:
Originally posted by Two Bears:
Okay, but the Empire gets Numidium.
Remember The warp in the West ?

Who could forget? Rather than sensibly choosing what ending would be the canon ending the lore folks at Bethesda decided to disrupt the space-time continuum to make all endings and no endings lore. A perfect example of how Bethesda is bad at writing, and a large reason that many of us cringed once they got their hands on Fallout.

My point is that if the Stormcloaks get this fantastical dragon airforce then the Empire gets TES's Liberty Prime, which they actually had at one point in time.
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The Spanish Inquisition Jun 17 @ 1:41pm 
Basically, whoever the Dragonborn sides with will win, be it Empire or Stormcloaks. But we never got a proper conclusion to the Thalmor conflict, and probably won't until TES6.
Mike Jun 17 @ 1:48pm 
Originally posted by Two Bears:
Originally posted by Mike:
Remember The warp in the West ?

Who could forget? Rather than sensibly choosing what ending would be the canon ending the lore folks at Bethesda decided to disrupt the space-time continuum to make all endings and no endings lore. A perfect example of how Bethesda is bad at writing, and a large reason that many of us cringed once they got their hands on Fallout.

My point is that if the Stormcloaks get this fantastical dragon airforce then the Empire gets TES's Liberty Prime, which they actually had at one point in time.
Okay. The empire gets its one giant dwemer robot that can attack one place at a time, but dragons can be everywhere. And if they DO attack Numidium all at once... check the link.

http://www.ogeeku.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/cliffracer.jpeg
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Two Bears Jun 17 @ 2:02pm 
Originally posted by Mike:
Originally posted by Two Bears:

Who could forget? Rather than sensibly choosing what ending would be the canon ending the lore folks at Bethesda decided to disrupt the space-time continuum to make all endings and no endings lore. A perfect example of how Bethesda is bad at writing, and a large reason that many of us cringed once they got their hands on Fallout.

My point is that if the Stormcloaks get this fantastical dragon airforce then the Empire gets TES's Liberty Prime, which they actually had at one point in time.
Okay. The empire gets its one giant dwemer robot that can attack one place at a time, but dragons can be everywhere. And if they DO attack Numidium all at once... check the link.

http://www.ogeeku.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/cliffracer.jpeg

Depends. How "indestructable" is Numidium? Was it a Liberty Prime; where all conventional weapons and methods are ineffective? We see mini-nukes, plasma bursts and gattling laser fire bouncing off it harmlessly as it swats vertibirds from the sky; a super weapon that was only stopped through the use of another super weapon in Bradley-Hercules. Or is it something that, while incredibly powerful, can be brought down be conventional means if concentrated adequately?
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Mike Jun 17 @ 2:11pm 
Originally posted by Two Bears:
Originally posted by Mike:
Okay. The empire gets its one giant dwemer robot that can attack one place at a time, but dragons can be everywhere. And if they DO attack Numidium all at once... check the link.

http://www.ogeeku.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/cliffracer.jpeg

Depends. How "indestructable" is Numidium? Was it a Liberty Prime; where all conventional weapons and methods are ineffective? We see mini-nukes, plasma bursts and gattling laser fire bouncing off it harmlessly as it swats vertibirds from the sky; a super weapon that was only stopped through the use of another super weapon in Bradley-Hercules. Or is it something that, while incredibly powerful, can be brought down be conventional means if concentrated adequately?
It has a weak spot. The Mantella, its heart. If it it destroyed, no more Numidium.
http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Numidium
http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Mantella
Two Bears Jun 17 @ 2:29pm 
Originally posted by Mike:
Originally posted by Two Bears:

Depends. How "indestructable" is Numidium? Was it a Liberty Prime; where all conventional weapons and methods are ineffective? We see mini-nukes, plasma bursts and gattling laser fire bouncing off it harmlessly as it swats vertibirds from the sky; a super weapon that was only stopped through the use of another super weapon in Bradley-Hercules. Or is it something that, while incredibly powerful, can be brought down be conventional means if concentrated adequately?
It has a weak spot. The Mantella, its heart. If it it destroyed, no more Numidium.
http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Numidium
http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Mantella


Well, it says the heart was stolen. The language leads me to believe that it was not a case of having it ripped out while facing it head-on. So, I still wonder about how it fared in combat. Is it something dragons could defeat or would the Stormcloaks need to summon Godzilla?
Mike Jun 17 @ 2:36pm 
Well... Numidium IS the Brass Golem, meaning it is made out of brass. Brass can be melted down into a brown puddle when applying enough heat. I guess when enough dragons do their fiery shouty thingie, they could generate enough heat. or maybe lure it into the Red Mountain.
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