The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim

The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim

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lameth35 Jun 9, 2014 @ 1:41pm
Puzzled...what am I missing?
Ok, first I just want to say that I'm fairly new to modding, been doing it for a few months and for the most part It's obviously been loads better than just vanilla. The appreciation I have for modders in general is overwhelming, I'm just amazed at what they do and think that they are awesome. Like I said, I've been playing modded for a few months trying this or that, generally without serious issues. What's puzzling me is this: When I start a new game completely I always run Tesedit, LOOT, and FNIS, trying to make sure that things should run properly. When the game starts up, I get no crashes but when the title shows everything goes all higgledy-piggledy like I didn't even run FNIS, even though I did. I'm usually able to get it going after a few restarts, going through the process again, but why does it do this? Like I said I'm just wondering what am I doing wrong, missing, or whatever. Can someone help?
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Bullwinkle Jun 9, 2014 @ 2:52pm 
This is exactly the type of thing that intimidates me out of getting started with modding: all the hours of head-scratching while not playing. I suspect that all the modders have at least a little I.T. blood running through their veins. Good luck!
Last edited by Bullwinkle; Jun 9, 2014 @ 2:53pm
Kelvy Jun 9, 2014 @ 3:09pm 
When running FNIS generator do a consistence check that will highlight problems (I do this everytime).
I restarted yesterday because of crashes(random) I found CoT dragonborn weather patch causing the issue looking for the other dragonborn patch.
This is not the mod's fault but my own, everytime I click 'yes to all' in NMM it would cancel out CoT, put CoT on 'yes to all' cancelled out the patch. Finally brain kicked into gear just went 'yes to mod' for patch and wow everything is in place.
Simple issues are mainly the cause for all problems.
lameth35 Jun 9, 2014 @ 5:43pm 
Kelvy, when I do a consistence check, it shows 317(I'm screwed!!!) possible consistence issues. What should/can I do to resolve those?
TiltedDomino Jun 9, 2014 @ 6:18pm 
Originally posted by lameth35:
Kelvy, when I do a consistence check, it shows 317(I'm screwed!!!) possible consistence issues. What should/can I do to resolve those?

Paste a log if you want. I don't use a lot of FNIS related mods, but I do use quite a few of XP32's mods.
Last edited by TiltedDomino; Jun 9, 2014 @ 6:18pm
Eternie Jun 11, 2014 @ 1:42am 
Just a different thought what is your FPS? Remembering that a high FPS can throw the game especially the intro of the game! Whaen I restarted on a new computer with a 144hz moniter the intro was unplayable the horses pulling the cart glitched and got to the Helgen Gate before it opened turned around and pushed the cart awat from Helgen! Whereas once the frame rate was set to 60 hz it played fine!
Originally posted by Bullwinkle:
This is exactly the type of thing that intimidates me out of getting started with modding: all the hours of head-scratching while not playing. I suspect that all the modders have at least a little I.T. blood running through their veins. Good luck!

Installing mods is easy as pie. If you don't want to mess with files and such, don't go near Nexus. Download any mods from Steam workshop though. Very easy to install, uninstall and update.

As for actually creating your own mods, you have to take the time to learn how. Nothing to it. Just like any other hobby/activity. Practice and Trial and error make perfect.
SpeedFreak1972 Jun 11, 2014 @ 4:37am 
Adding Mods is simple enough running loot/boss is also simple ... however to get it entirely stable is another thing some mods have an unpredictable behavior an can cause some weird problems. BTW using steam simple??? I mean no load order or wrong load order ... updating mods which huge bugs without warning ... I mean STEAM is far more complicated then NMM.
Last edited by SpeedFreak1972; Jun 11, 2014 @ 4:40am
Pepe_DeJefe Jun 11, 2014 @ 5:10am 
Originally posted by Don't feed the ducks™:
Originally posted by Bullwinkle:
This is exactly the type of thing that intimidates me out of getting started with modding: all the hours of head-scratching while not playing. I suspect that all the modders have at least a little I.T. blood running through their veins. Good luck!

Installing mods is easy as pie. If you don't want to mess with files and such, don't go near Nexus. Download any mods from Steam workshop though. Very easy to install, uninstall and update.

As for actually creating your own mods, you have to take the time to learn how. Nothing to it. Just like any other hobby/activity. Practice and Trial and error make perfect.

No offense, but that's kind of weird advice.

Steam workshop is basically just the Steam client acting as a no-frills mod manager. It will do nothing to prevent any of the possible problems with mods, it just doesn't let you see what's happening or give you any tools/options to help you make sure things install/uninstall properly. Steam doesn't regulate the quality of mods, so the actual mods themselves are just as fallible regardless of where they come from.

If you want to actually make sure your mods install, uninstall, and work, you are better off using one of the Nexus's mod managers. Either way you'll be dealing with the same potential problems, but at least the Nexus managers give you some degree of awareness and control. And they aren't remotely complicated either. Not the basic ones like NMM, at least (Wyre Bash is the advanced one I wouldn't reccomend to noobs).

Recommending learning the Creation Kit in the same breath as recomending Steam workshop over Nexus is backward. Anyone remotely intimidated by NMM would crap themselves blind apon opening the CC. Anyone who wouldn't be intimidated by the CC would find NMM simple and direct as a toddler's toy (which it is).
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Date Posted: Jun 9, 2014 @ 1:41pm
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