Lagarina Jun 6 @ 3:12am
Skyrim crashes after loading screen
hello!so i played skyrim today and installed the mods Apachii sky hair and Enhanced character edit, Skyrim was working fine awhile ago then the agony began. Skyrim began crashing whenever i load my save file and create a new file. I think the cause is the two mods.

mods:
Apachii sky hair
Enhanced character edit

i know this is a nooby question but please help me.
how do i uninstall enhanced character edit ?
i tried deleting all of the meshes, textures etc. of it but it still crashes..
any fix for this?i really need your help.
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Ilja Jun 6 @ 3:20am 
(No need to make multiply posts for a same matter.)

Both mods are working fine. It is impossible to say if either one is a culprit for your CTDs, withuot knowing your load order.

All I can say, is that having multiply hairmods will increase the change of CTD. Apachii hair is a good mod, but known culprit, if your memory is very low, or you are modifying your character ingame.

ECE should not crash the game, unless you are editing your chracter in game, or using multiply hair mods.
Lagarina Jun 6 @ 3:27am 
Originally posted by Ilja (Ref):
(No need to make multiply posts for a same matter.)

Both mods are working fine. It is impossible to say if either one is a culprit for your CTDs, withuot knowing your load order.

All I can say, is that having multiply hairmods will increase the change of CTD. Apachii hair is a good mod, but known culprit, if your memory is very low, or you are modifying your character ingame.

ECE should not crash the game, unless you are editing your chracter in game, or using multiply hair mods.
(sorry i accidentally created another post because of my slow internet)but my other question is how do you uninstall the apachii hair mod?(ive already uninstalled ece and the game still crashes, so my only lead is the hair mod.)
sum1 Jun 6 @ 3:29am 
Lagarina Jun 6 @ 3:43am 
still havent got my answer tho
*bump spell
Ilja Jun 6 @ 3:49am 
How did you install it? I use standard Nexus Mod Manager (NMM) to install and uninstall my mods. I haven't tried any other method for Apachii Hair.

If you used some alternative method, then I guess the instructions how to install it included instructions how to unsinstall it as well?
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Lagarina Jun 6 @ 3:59am 
Originally posted by Ilja (Ref):
How did you install it? I use standard Nexus Mod Manager (NMM) to install and uninstall my mods. I haven't tried any other method for Apachii Hair.

If you used some alternative method, then I guess the instructions how to install it included instructions how to unsinstall it as well?
i installed it via NMM, but i cannot uninstall it by using NMM because NMM always crashes after installing mods for skyrim.
Ilja Jun 6 @ 4:06am 
Originally posted by Dr. MλSλMUNE:
Originally posted by Ilja (Ref):
How did you install it? I use standard Nexus Mod Manager (NMM) to install and uninstall my mods. I haven't tried any other method for Apachii Hair.

If you used some alternative method, then I guess the instructions how to install it included instructions how to unsinstall it as well?
i installed it via NMM, but i cannot uninstall it by using NMM because NMM always crashes after installing mods for skyrim.

Are you running the latest version, 50.1?
Lagarina Jun 6 @ 4:12am 
Originally posted by Ilja (Ref):
Originally posted by Dr. MλSλMUNE:
i installed it via NMM, but i cannot uninstall it by using NMM because NMM always crashes after installing mods for skyrim.

Are you running the latest version, 50.1?
no im running 49.7
Lagarina Jun 6 @ 4:34am 
bumpiity bump
SpeedFreak Jun 6 @ 5:02am 
50.1 ???? just got 50.2 ... update asap Ref :p Forum is super weird atm ....
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Ilja Jun 6 @ 5:43am 
Originally posted by Dr. MλSλMUNE:
bumpiity bump
Program can crash for various reasons. I have few ideas:
- Try moving to current version of NMM.
- Make sure that you are runnign NMM as administrator. Make sure that your Data folder is not considered as "Read only" file. Latter have caused crashes with NMM.
- Inspect your anti virus program. If you have downloaded binarier trough NMM, then AV might consider it as harmful software. NMM uses NXM extentions for links.

Originally posted by SpeedFreak:
50.1 ???? just got 50.2 ... update asap Ref :p Forum is super weird atm ....
50.1 came up just yesterday. I see that they did some bugfixes. Thanks for heads up.
Forum is a one drag and lag today. It took me awhile to write this answer.
sum1 Jun 6 @ 7:21am 
Never use mod manager it's a sure fire way that your mods will ♥♥♥♥ up your game dude. You gotta do it all manually I used to not even use the launcher, I'd just enable them by putting the line saying 'mod.esp' into the plugin.txt files. anyway point is what you gotta do is find the mod ♥♥♥♥ing up your game and then search why it is, try disabling conflicting mods or changing the load order maybe you need an extra component who knows. PS: I didn't read your question.
Ilja Jun 6 @ 7:42am 
Originally posted by GO RUSSIA (nukils):
Never use mod manager it's a sure fire way that your mods will ♥♥♥♥ up your game dude. You gotta do it all manually I used to not even use the launcher, I'd just enable them by putting the line saying 'mod.esp' into the plugin.txt files. anyway point is what you gotta do is find the mod ♥♥♥♥ing up your game and then search why it is, try disabling conflicting mods or changing the load order maybe you need an extra component who knows. PS: I didn't read your question.

Right. 154 mods running with NMM, with 0 problems related to it. Reason why I am experimenting with Mod Organizer is that WIP testing of mods would be much easier with manager that does not use overwrite techniques.

I take that you don't have a lot of mods that affect actors? It is always a happy day to uninstall manually something, that was already been overwritten few times by other mod(s). That pretty much means tracking, uninstalling and reinstalling all relevant mods manually. One of best ways to get CTDs + mesh and texture problems.

MO or NMM means simply disabling the mod in question. Mesh and texture data gets reset to reflect that. We can even enable it right back, if we were only after a change in order.
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Vâr Fel Jun 6 @ 9:46am 
First things first: Make sure you have a legal copy of Skyrim, with all the latest patches (official or unofficial), as 1) It's the right thing to do and 2) It makes it a lot easier to reinstall a fresh, new copy when you run into issues. Also, different types of crashes are caused by different types of errors. A CTD is usually a directory file conflict that flat out just "breaks" the game, whereas something more like a game freeze or infinite loading screen is more akin to the game searching for a specific file but can't find it. (Memory and other hardware errors can cause similar situations, but that's a whole different story.) All of these occur when the save file tries to load something that is, in all effective behaviors, "not there."

That being said, in my extensive experience (I play with over 200 active mods, have used close to 350 in the past) with modding - though I don't claim to be an expert - I have found that the easiest way to have success in modding is not difficult, though it does take a little work and the proper use of some good tools.

1) Try not to use mods from the Steam Workshop. The Workshop is a great resource, but most of the mods there can be found in better, more fleshed-out versions on the Skyrim Nexus; and Steam has a nice way of messing up your load order.

2) Use the NMM (always latest version, currently 0.50.2) to download mods whenever possible. Sometimes the mod pages don't have the green "Download with NMM" button, but that doesn't matter: you can add mods through NMM by clicking the puzzle piece in the top left (add mod from file) and select the .zip, .7z, or .rar file that corresponds to the mod you downloaded.

**you can stay away from the NMM if you so choose, but it requires a semi-advanced knowledge of the layout of the folder system used in the Skyrim directory; NMM just makes everything easier.**

3) Use BOSS (http://boss-developers.github.io) to get a working load order, and then modify the plugins and loadorder files yourself (usually found in Users\<username>\AppData\Local\Skyrim\plugins.txt or loadorder.txt). NMM has a way of putting things in an odd order sometimes, and I find that the BOSS utility works very well (it checks a masterlist that is constently being updated by its team so things are almost never out of date, and the GUI is simple and easy to use).

With all of that being said (I know it's a lot, though I've just scratched the surface, and I apologize: I have a propensity for over-lengthy explanations), the biggest thing is this: always try to start a save with all the mods you plan to use in it. Changing the mods and load order mid-play is a great way to screw the game up. Now, part of my experience with that may be due to the ridiculous amount of mods I use, but the concept is still the same. Save files have a "list" of files and data that they try to load when you go back to playing it, and when you add or remove mods and plugins, it freaks out and throws a tantrum. A lot of times, you can get lucky and adding new mods or removing old mods will not affect the playability of a save; but if the save has even a slight reliance on the presence of that/those mod(s), and they don't show up when it tries to load, game over.

I can't help you much with troubleshooting the mods you have or uninstalling them, as I don't know your mods list/loadorder (not to mention your mod experience or where/how you installed your mods); and many mods do modify the initial game files, so uninstaling them is a tougher process than it may seem.

So, my advice: take some time looking for mods that think you'll enjoy, get NMM and BOSS, install and order your mods properly, and then start a new game/save.
Lagarina Jun 6 @ 9:48am 
I deactivated all my mod in steam and through skyrim launcher data files, But to no avail it still crashes. I also updated NMM to 0.5.2, crashing after launch. So my last resort is to reinstall the game and see if it's gonna work but it didn't.
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