I had no turning off mods could destroy this game's ability to work
Shouldn't there be a warning about this? It doesn't even matter if I reenable all the same mods it's just CTD right after startup.
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GoyoElGringo Jul 13 @ 7:12pm 
You should read all of the instructions on the mod pages, they will usually explain how to properly uninstall a mod without messing up you save file.

Also, you should be installing one mod at a time and trying it out before moving onto the next one, that way you can isolate any potential issues. Now you're going to have to turn off each mod and load to figure out which one is causing the issue. Could be an incompatibility, or it could be a problem with the load order.
ᵏᶤᵚᶤ‰ Jul 13 @ 7:15pm 
do it one at a time, odds are its only one or two rogue mods causing trouble

use process of elimination
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Hunter × HunterSThompson Jul 13 @ 7:16pm 
Well I wasn't trying to uninstall any mods, I just wanted to see what kind of performance difference there was between Skyrim vanilla and my modded Skyrim, so I unchecked all mods. They were all working fine before and didn't seem to cause any conflicts. My load order definitely is different now though, I wish I had taken a screenshot of it because I really have no idea what it was now :( It seems that Skyrim put it in alphabetical order.
Crypton Jul 13 @ 7:21pm 
You can try Loot[loot.github.io] to sort the load order of your mods. It seems to work fairly well. I have too many mods to list right now and so far I have not had any issues with load order using it.
Hunter × HunterSThompson Jul 13 @ 7:29pm 
Thanks for the quick replies

Loot gives me

Total plugins: 87
Errors: 0
Dirty plugins: 10
Warnings: 11
Crypton Jul 13 @ 7:33pm 
For now just hit Sort and then Apply - Close LOOT then fire up your game and see if you can get into game. If not there is a memory patch[www.nexusmods.com] that you can try
Hunter × HunterSThompson Jul 13 @ 7:37pm 
Unfortunately it still does the CTD after the intro screen

Ill try that memory patch
GoyoElGringo Jul 13 @ 7:38pm 
Yeah loot is great. Also, watch gopher's vid on TES5Edit if Loot is telling you to use it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UOQO2S6HDBw
Hunter × HunterSThompson Jul 13 @ 7:57pm 
TES5Edit gives me

"An error occured while loading the modules. Editing is disabled. Check the message log and correct the error"

The error it seems this occurs at is

[00:25] Background Loader: [north haven.esp] Adding master "Skyrim.esm"
[00:25] Background Loader: [north haven.esp] Adding master "Update.esm"
[00:25] Background Loader: [north haven.esp] Adding master "Dawnguard.esm"
[00:25] Background Loader: [Dawnguard.esm] Loading file
[00:25] Background Loader: Fatal: <EOSError: System Error. Code: 2.
The system cannot find the file specified>

Now I don't have Dawngaurd. Is the implication here that I have a Dawnguard required mod? I could have sworn I checked every mod before installing if it needed any DLC. And like I said these mods were working fine only until I unselected them.
Adura Jul 13 @ 8:05pm 
If you crash at the Bethesda logo, it means you're missing a master file.

In this case, it sounds like you have a mod that requires a dlc you have de-activated/don't have (Dawnguard).
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GoyoElGringo Jul 13 @ 8:17pm 
Originally posted by Hunter × HunterSThompson:
TES5Edit gives me

"An error occured while loading the modules. Editing is disabled. Check the message log and correct the error"

The error it seems this occurs at is

[00:25] Background Loader: [north haven.esp] Adding master "Skyrim.esm"
[00:25] Background Loader: [north haven.esp] Adding master "Update.esm"
[00:25] Background Loader: [north haven.esp] Adding master "Dawnguard.esm"
[00:25] Background Loader: [Dawnguard.esm] Loading file
[00:25] Background Loader: Fatal: <EOSError: System Error. Code: 2.
The system cannot find the file specified>

Now I don't have Dawngaurd. Is the implication here that I have a Dawnguard required mod? I could have sworn I checked every mod before installing if it needed any DLC. And like I said these mods were working fine only until I unselected them.
Either you messed up the steps in the video, or the mod you were cleaning requires Dawnguard(I'm assuming that could be what that means. Never had any issues like this though).
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Hunter × HunterSThompson Jul 13 @ 8:21pm 
Ok it's fixed! Thanks Adura. North Haven was the culprit. Deleting it allows me to play the game.

I just don't understand how I had this mod on before though with no problem, just when deselecting it did it become one (although clearly I shouldn't have installed it in the first place). Thanks everyone for the help.
Crypton Jul 13 @ 9:04pm 
Glad you got it working! Had similar issues with Static Mesh Improvment Mod. It worked fine for me for a while then I ran into Fast Travel issues. Reinstalling (Cleaning Data Folder first) everything without that one fixed my issue. As soon as I put it back with my current savegame I get a CTD on fast travel everytime. *shrug*
Hunter × HunterSThompson Jul 14 @ 7:03am 
Unfortunately this gane has beciome unplayable due to massive performance drops. The only two things that changed were the unneeded mod and my mod order using LOOT. I get MASSIVE hangups that make playing this game unbearable. I used Tes5edit and got rid of all errors and still no improvement. The only thing I can think of that would be causing this would be the load order by LOOT but that should be an optimum load order right? Or is there a better program for doing that? Because something is wayyyy off here. I really wish I had never unchecked those mods my gaming experience has taken such a turn for the worse.
Adura Jul 14 @ 7:08am 
Originally posted by Hunter × HunterSThompson:
oad order by LOOT but that should be an optimum load order right?

Let's clear some common misconceptions right here.

1) LOOT takes a guesstimate approach to load order (it follows an algorithm). It's a great guestimation, but it's not guaranteed perfection.

2) If you turn mods you've used off, in the same playthrough, this can be just as damaging as adding unstable mods. (Depending on the mods you disable, of course)

3) Optimal does not mean perfect. It means 'best possible given the circumstances.' An optimal way to die would be in your sleep and painlessly...it still means you die.

4) Sometimes your game save gets used to the alterations that you had. Changing the load order can change these alterations in the game. To figure out if this is what's causing problems, try a new game and see if it messes you up.
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