Well, that was a waste of time..

[pedantic_roc]

I dropped the difficulty to girly blouse mode and I still couldn't kill the Draugr Death Overlord with a (mystic) bound sword. I'm lvl 30 on this character and haven't bought any skills (never do anyway) in an attempt to not lvl up too quickly. I just looked them up online and see 1400HP compared to my 260 - ridiculous - lol. Back to sword and board for me. Bound weapons and Stoneskin etc. just didn't cut it. boo flippin' hoo.

[jaderive]

what the, so you havent put points / perks into any skills what so ever when you level, is it any wonder you not as strong as you couold be o.O

[Grathagis]

Oprindeligt skrevet af jaderive:

what the, so you havent put points / perks into any skills what so ever when you level, is it any wonder you not as strong as you couold be o.O

I think the OP means that he doesn't use trainers.

[pedantic_roc]

Hah hah - of course I used perks. I've levelled up my 1 handed skill by hitting things and not paying for training. That's what I mean by not buying skills. My 1 handed skill is at lvl 53 with Armsman (3/5) and, against the Overlord, I am totally ineffectual - when I'm not being flung about by its, unrelenting, unrelenting force shout.

[jaderive]

lool ok sry, look up the trainers for wepons u use, specially if you know a big battle is coming up n try n get a couple good enchant on armor n such

[pedantic_roc]

Oprindeligt skrevet af jaderive:

lool ok sry, look up the trainers for wepons u use, specially if you know a big battle is coming up n try n get a couple good enchant on armor n such

Been there, seen it, got the T-Shirt. I was trying a purely magic based character (conjuration, alteration, Illusion) without using destruction magic, and I conclude that it was an epic failure LOL. Silly me :P

[Grathagis]

Use enchanted items with Fortify One-Handed. This will increase your damage from your weapons. All the enchantments stack.

[pedantic_roc]

Oprindeligt skrevet af Grathagis:

Use enchanted items with Fortify One-Handed. This will increase your damage from your weapons. All the enchantments stack.

True that, problem is - you know how some games just pan out? - I haven't found any yet. I always just play with what I er.. find? or loot these days.
I still have Mandrake, an older character, that has combined +40% archery and 1 handed gauntlets, Muffle and +40% 1 handed boots, etc.. without employing any exploits but, and it's a big but, I get bored killing everything in 4 or 5 hits. I like a challenge but.... the Overlord was lording it over me. Inigo kept going down on one knee, proposing to the other Draugr Deathlord and, well, I think they were just really intent on the two of us dying and as only one of us is essential. Sigh...

[Incunabulum]

Oprindeligt skrevet af pedantic_roc:

I dropped the difficulty to girly blouse mode and I still couldn't kill the Draugr Death Overlord with a (mystic) bound sword. I'm lvl 30 on this character and haven't bought any skills (never do anyway) in an attempt to not lvl up too quickly. I just looked them up online and see 1400HP compared to my 260 - ridiculous - lol. Back to sword and board for me. Bound weapons and Stoneskin etc. just didn't cut it. boo flippin' hoo.

Unless your spreading your combat/defensive skills out among *all* the weapons you should be able to handle this at level 30.


Your problem is using 'Bound Sword'. Magic does not scale up with character level nor how skill level. Meaning that your bound sword is about the equivalent of a mid-grade iron/low-grade steel sword.

Dump it, grab a level appropriate metal sword and hit the forge to improve and enchant it.

[Skyrimnut]

A couple of things, instead of grabbing armsman for a bunch of ranks, head up the tree quickly to get fighting stance and the the level 50 perks, which help one-handed a lot. Then pick the blade perks, which most people say are crappy, but a 10% shot to do some critical damage never sucks, or double back and do armsman. If you are so inclined, the Dark Brotherhood offers a very lucrative weapon, Windshear. It's a scimitar, and while the damage sucks, the enchantment is pretty sweet and it never runs out. Stagger damage. Every time you bash with the weapon, you knock down the target, including Deathlords. Then you hit and hit hard. Most of the time a Deathlord never gets back up again, once he's been hit with Windshear. Dawnbreaker is another weapon that is excellent against the undead. Right now, I'm dual-wielding Windshear on the right, Mehrunes' Razor on the left. Weak damage, but the the enchantments are wondeful, but before I was wielding a mystic sword and usually revenant or another conjuration spell.

Oh my remedy for getting flung around like a ragdoll by deathlords? The atronach stone, 50% spell absorb, that includes shouts. I really haven't been knocked around by one since.

[Skyrimnut]

Oprindeligt skrevet af Incunabulum:

Oprindeligt skrevet af pedantic_roc:

I dropped the difficulty to girly blouse mode and I still couldn't kill the Draugr Death Overlord with a (mystic) bound sword. I'm lvl 30 on this character and haven't bought any skills (never do anyway) in an attempt to not lvl up too quickly. I just looked them up online and see 1400HP compared to my 260 - ridiculous - lol. Back to sword and board for me. Bound weapons and Stoneskin etc. just didn't cut it. boo flippin' hoo.

Unless your spreading your combat/defensive skills out among *all* the weapons you should be able to handle this at level 30.


Your problem is using 'Bound Sword'. Magic does not scale up with character level nor how skill level. Meaning that your bound sword is about the equivalent of a mid-grade iron/low-grade steel sword.

Dump it, grab a level appropriate metal sword and hit the forge to improve and enchant it.

You do not need to resort to crafting to beat Draugr deathlords. In the world of non crafting the mystic sword is an excellent weapon and influenced by One-handed perks AND conjuration, which means it is on par with Daedric weaponry and when fully perked in Conjuration it can soul trap, and turn undead, ANY level of undead and banish Daedra, ANY level of Daedra. I'm not disagreeing with you, you are absolutely correct about the mystic sword in the crafting world, as you can improve with smithing any steel weapon to surpass a mystic's sword's base damage. However, not crafting changes things.

I did forget to ask if the OP had perked the mystic weapons branch of conjuration. You should.

[pedantic_roc]

Yup - Mystic is a perk and was chosen, then soul trap, pretty useless for a bound weapon - lol, and also banish summoned nasties. I've never used bound weapons and nothing else in a play through so I thought I'd try it. I managed to get the bow from fort amol and bought the sword from Farengar? (Whiterun). I hate buying things but I don't know where to find the bound sword spell book. I also hate looking it up online - so no spoilers please. With the +50 armor from lord stone, plus whatever skin I cast, I WAS doing okay - ah well, as you know, when I die I make a new character. Just this time I was annoyed and wanted to kill the darned thing - it wasn't to be.
It might be time to go play something else for a while instead of the same ol' same ol' ...

[Clever Monkey]

get a follower and/or summonings especially if you are using a bound weapon anyways

[Rhuto]

It is when you die, or struggle, you really have the option to learn the game.

If we always manage, then we either play on to low level, or have used to much enchantments :)

A game we always manage will soon become dull...a game we struggle and manage will always feel challenging :)

But in the end, no one can tell how you shall play....do it the way that gives you the most :)

[EbonHawk]

I had a time with a Draugr Overlord a few nights ago as well. He would kill me in just a couple of hits, and I had to rethink my charge-in and get-killed-quickly tactic right quick. With a bit of thinking and planning, it wasn't so hard after that.

But, I am stuck on the guy in the Azura Star though. I know it's something simple I'm missing, but he and his two dremora buddies make short work of me every time. They all seem to hit with fire-based spells, but in such rapid succession, I'm dead in like 2 seconds. The best Resist Fire protection potion I've got is about 21% protection, I think it is, and Resist Magic is around 6%. A UF Shout doesn't seem to affect them at all, and they do so much damage with spells coming from 3 directions at once, that my character is incinerated in the blink of an eye.

[Skyrimnut]

Oprindeligt skrevet af Rhuto:

It is when you die, or struggle, you really have the option to learn the game.

If we always manage, then we either play on to low level, or have used to much enchantments :)

A game we always manage will soon become dull...a game we struggle and manage will always feel challenging :)

But in the end, no one can tell how you shall play....do it the way that gives you the most :)

Agreed. Haha, this is why I don't craft.

@ebonhawk, what is your stone? It's the lover isn't? Why don't you change to a different stone and then go back to the lover when the mission is finished. As long as you're not playing a mod like Requiem where stone choice is fixed in a group, I don't see why you can't change your stone based on the type of enemy you're facing? Why not try the Lord for a bit, gives you 25% resistance to magic? Or the Atronach, which helps with spell absorption, which offers a lot of protection against mages and their dremora?