[TSWolf] Nexures Jul 5, 2014 @ 8:00pm
random desktop crash
no messages, no errors.. it just quits to desktop. Ive googled it, and checked hundreds of threads about this problem (on steam and on nexus) but so far people were a bit clueless about this. ive used "skyrim performance monitor" to see the last calculations of vram and ram, and i noticed that the maximum amount of ram used up was 2,072mb (ive 8gb of ram). The max amout of vram was 1618mb (ive 2048mb)

so whats seems to be the problem?what do i have to do because as of now the game is completely unplayable, as it crashes very, very often. it used to be quite rare, like every hour or so, but now it crashes every few mins
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Formula Ford EcoBoost Jul 5, 2014 @ 8:02pm 
I'm not sure, I seem to be having the same problem. It definitely happens around Lakeview Manor, though.
[TSWolf] Nexures Jul 5, 2014 @ 8:02pm 
it happens completely randomly to me, anywhere i am, whatever i do
Formula Ford EcoBoost Jul 5, 2014 @ 8:06pm 
Same here, more often in tombs/caves for me though. I don't have many mods installed on the Nexus and only 4 mods from the workshop, yet it still happens. I have no graphical enhancers either. If someone knows how to fix this, that would be great.
Beef Hammer Jul 5, 2014 @ 9:11pm 
Can be caused by various things, like corrupted saves, mods or hitting the ram limit. I used to have this happen and I just had to disable the HQ texture dlc, it's crap anyway.
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[TSWolf] Nexures Jul 6, 2014 @ 5:01am 
ill try to disable the hd texture dlc from bethesda, and ill report soon.
[TSWolf] Nexures Jul 6, 2014 @ 5:17am 
i cant find it in the data files....
Adura Jul 6, 2014 @ 5:35am 
Originally posted by Alfie:
I'm not sure, I seem to be having the same problem. It definitely happens around Lakeview Manor, though.

Sounds like you're using the 13Oranges village mod that places stuff in that area.

When used in conjunction with Hearthfires it causes crashes in that area.



@OP: A vanilla skyrim on a stable computer will crash about once every real-life day.

It just sounds to me like you have mods which are either unstable or do not work together well.




Originally posted by Alfie:
Same here, more often in tombs/caves for me though. I don't have many mods installed on the Nexus and only 4 mods from the workshop, yet it still happens. I have no graphical enhancers either. If someone knows how to fix this, that would be great.
It takes exactly 1 unstable mod to cause crashes, and exactly 2 conflicting mods to do the same. More than that and you get worse and worse problems.

While many people seem to believe that it's a question of how many mods you're using, that's incorrect. It's a question of how many unstable or conflicting mods.
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[TSWolf] Nexures Jul 6, 2014 @ 5:39am 
hmmm well ive got ♥♥♥♥ LOADS of mods, and i just did that: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fw3g_N1jcZQ and it didnt help. im gonna try and do that now: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UOQO2S6HDBw&src_vid=fw3g_N1jcZQ&feature=iv&annotation_id=annotation_645853
[TSWolf] Nexures Jul 6, 2014 @ 6:00am 
ok this vid was also useless. im ♥♥♥♥ing clueless..................

seriously i need someone to help me coz i just spent cash on something that doesnt work
[TSWolf] Nexures Jul 6, 2014 @ 6:31am 
... anyone :(?
Adura Jul 6, 2014 @ 6:38am 
Originally posted by Nexures:
seriously i need someone to help me coz i just spent cash on something that doesnt work

You mean Skyrim?


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It is most likely a mod problem, as is often the case.

If you can live without mods, I'd suggest starting a new game with no mods. If you are still having problems, then come back and we'll try the next likely cause. (though be prepared to have most people just say it's mods, even if you tell them you don't use any. Part of this attitude is that people don't listen, another part is because a lot of the time they will say "I'm not using any mods" only for their problem to be the mods they didn't tell us they were using...)
Last edited by Adura; Jul 6, 2014 @ 6:38am
[TSWolf] Nexures Jul 6, 2014 @ 6:40am 
if i wanted to play skyrim with no mods, id stay with my xbox dude.

so basically noone has a clue? ♥♥♥♥s sake...
Adura Jul 6, 2014 @ 6:50am 
Originally posted by Nexures:
if i wanted to play skyrim with no mods, id stay with my xbox dude.

so basically noone has a clue? ♥♥♥♥s sake...

Oh no, we are about 90% sure it's a mod problem. It almost always is.


But there's no 100% way to tell. It could be driver errors. It could be a missing file that you need.

Just coming to the boards and saying "I'm crashing, give me a solution" isn't really useful for us to help you. (It's a lot like going to a tech serving place and saying "It's broken, fix it. Oh, and you can't use my computer, just tell me what to do.")


Here's some things to consider.

If it's a missing system file:
step 1: Verify game cache.
Step 2: if step 1 fails, do a hard reinstall (uninstall from steam, delete Skyrim folder, reinstall)


If it's a driver error:
step 1: Get updated drivers.
Step 2: if step 1 fails, get more updated drivers for other things.


if it's an OS problem, well, I'm not sure. I never seen a solution to that which was claimed to consistently work.

if it's a corrupted save problem you have multiple solutions:
- if it's a corrupted script problem
Step 1: Download the save file script editor from nexus
step 2: open up your save
step 3: find the bad script (might be easier using Papyrus logs)
step 4: remove the bad scripts.
step 5: pray you did it right, or your save may become corrupt.

- if it's just a purely bad save
step 1: delete save
step 2: start new game.

If it's a mod problem....well....you have your work cut out for you. You'll have to figure out which mods are hurting you and remove them. Going back and reading the mod descriptions and comments may help you single them out.

The lazy, but probably won't really help much solution:
step 1: run boss or LOOT.
step 1.5: optional -> use tes5edit to minimize conflicts.
Step 2: run skyrim.

The moderate solution.
Step 1: Remove current mods and save game.
Step 2: Start anew, and download mods one at a time. READ THEIR DESCRIPTION AND COMMENTS. Play with them enough to know they work fine.
step 3: get more mods one at a time. If they mess your game up or cause a crash within about 5 hours then remove them and go to a previous save.
Step 4: Over time get a large collection of mods.


The actual solution:
Step 1: remove your current save.
Step 2: Start a new save, but only with a small handful (say, 5) of your mods up and running.
Step 3: Play with those mods until you're certain there's no problems.
Step 4: Keep them, or remove the mods that you found caused problems. Start another new game and add in the next 5.
Step 5: repeat steps 2-4 until you've figured out the mods that work well together.




There you go, all the solutions you need to fix your problems (or at least remove them) and play a stable skyrim.

I had 255 mods in a stable playthrough once, and another 130 for another one later. It can be done, just just need to be careful, read descriptions and play it safe.
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SpeedFreak Jul 6, 2014 @ 6:54am 
How can we have a clue? I mean go give little info I mean what mods were talking about and indeed it takes just 1 mod .... and Tes5edit is nice however it's not the holy grail it can spot a lot however not everything some mods can have strange side effects.
[TSWolf] Nexures Jul 6, 2014 @ 6:58am 
Originally posted by SpeedFreak:
How can we have a clue? I mean go give little info I mean what mods were talking about and indeed it takes just 1 mod .... and Tes5edit is nice however it's not the holy grail it can spot a lot however not everything some mods can have strange side effects.
how about you ♥♥♥♥ing ask for the ♥♥♥♥ing info? how should i know what you ♥♥♥♥ing need -.-?
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