Lymark Jul 21, 2014 @ 9:28am
Realistic Lighting Overhaul or Enhanced Lights and FX???
Which is better? Just tried ELFX, it's awesome but once I get into a cave, it's way too dark without a touch. Has anyone here tried both? Which one do you prefer??

I also noticed Climates Of Tamriel has lighting effect too, but would there be conflict running both ELFX/RLO and COT at the same time??
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muz farm or famry die Jul 21, 2014 @ 9:33am 
Ironically I found RLO to be way darker for interiors compared to ELFX. Both are compatible with COT but do pay attention when you are installing - if I recall, the mods have conflicting external lighting mods (someone correct me if I am wrong).

Are you running any ENB or some darker dungeon mod? Some ENBs are not meant to work with ELFX/RLO (and COT if you install that).
Ilja Jul 21, 2014 @ 9:34am 
You can use ELFX or RLO with CoT. In facts many ENBs (like RealVision ENB) will require you to use either of them with CoT.

If ELFX dungeons were too dark, then RLO really isn't for you. It will cover lightless underground areas with complete darkness. You will have to carry a light source or use night vison racial ability or mod to see anything.
SpeedFreak1972 Jul 21, 2014 @ 9:35am 
I used both had the same thing don't use the darkening option in COT so interior vanilla then install ELnFX and use the darkening option from that. As for RLO I don't know
Lymark Jul 21, 2014 @ 9:53am 
Originally posted by SpeedFreak:
I used both had the same thing don't use the darkening option in COT so interior vanilla then install ELnFX and use the darkening option from that. As for RLO I don't know

I've also set all setting to default in COT. But it still looks pretty creepy inside a cave which scared the hack out of me :/
Zefram Cochrane Jul 21, 2014 @ 5:09pm 
RLO is miles better for exteriors and ELFX is much better for interiors. Both are pretty dark inside though (RLO is darker in my experience, in dwarven cities almost impossibly so)
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Skyrimnut Jul 21, 2014 @ 5:15pm 
Yeah, I've used both as well. The interiors, IMO, for RLO, are almost depressingly dark, especially the player homes. I didn't have a problem with the darkness of dungeons and dwemer ruins, but sheesh, I'd like Breezehome to not be like a monestary. Proudspire was the worst though. Super dark. So far, ELFX looks a bit more reasonable in the interior lighting department and dungeons are still creepy, although not as much so as with RLO. I have the quartet of moddy goodness...

COT
COT weather patch
ELFX
Realvision enb

I'm very pleased with how my game looks. Though I will say a bad rainstorm or fog will make my computer cry a bit, especially when I try to sprint my horse. If I slow him down, it's ok.
mpd1958 Jul 21, 2014 @ 7:13pm 
I use just COT and find the building interiors warm and dungeon interiors not to dark. COT has options during install to help you make it the way you want it. IMO, COT is all you need.
Drew Jul 21, 2014 @ 7:51pm 
ELFX is WAY better IMO.
Drew Jul 21, 2014 @ 7:51pm 
In conjuction with CoT ^
StealthMomo Jul 21, 2014 @ 7:56pm 
I used to use RLO before but now with my plasma 50" monitor it's a bit dark unless I tune up the brightness. COT I think is better depending on your settings and monitor.
EdinMG Jul 21, 2014 @ 9:43pm 
Since I don't use CoT, I really, really don't like CoT, actually, I don't like any of JJC71's weather mods, for Skyrim, FO3 and FNV, his mods are just, how can I say, oversaturated, but that's just my opinion, anyway, I also tried ELFX, used for one playthrough but I didn't liked too much, so I removed and went back to RLO + URWL and used this combination for a long time, but since the release of Pure Weather, I've been using RLO + PW Realistic, and it's by far the best combination that I've used so far !!!
41488 Jan 3 @ 9:54am 
Sorry to revive this post, but I just wanted to stick in some of my input

I have used both RLO and ELFX with CoT for quite some time now. What I find is that RLO is more immersive in the sense that light goes where light should reasonably go. A building without many skylights, interior lights, and windows is going to be VERY dark- but a building with those things is going to be much lighter. I also find that buildings with windows and skylights are much much brighter during the day than the night- a nice little touch for thief characters such as the one I'm playing now when you're breaking into homes, as it gives you a sense that you're not supposed to be in the home at this time. However, by the end of my play session, I had to give my eyes a little rest- not because I had been playing a long time, but because I was squinting for hours on end at my computer screen. RLO is realistic- but literally painfully so. Turning up my brightness seemed to alleviate the issue slightly, btw.

On the other hand, ELFX looks much prettier. Interiors with fires feel warm, and the candle smoke from candles gives a nice cozy atmosphere to inns that I don't feel with RLO (mostly because there aren't enough light sources, which makes interiors dark and cold). I notice there is a LOT more ambient light with ELFX (not as much as vanilla however), which gives ELFX a more artificial, but pretty, feel. Personally, I prefer not having to take out my torch whilst trying to find my room in an inn, so I like ELFX more than RLO.

All in all, it's a matter of how realistic you want your Skyrim to look. RLO is the more realistic, whilst ELFX is the less realistic. If you want to feel like you're in the world, do RLO. But if you want a prettier Skyrim, do ELFX.
Shelt Jan 3 @ 10:23am 
"Just tried ELFX, it's awesome but once I get into a cave, it's way too dark without a touch."

That's the point. I've used ELFX for a long time and I like it. Haven't tried the other, but ELFX makes dark areas dark and forces light sources to actually function properly. It also removes a lot of the ambient light that seems to come from nowhere in Skyrim. To combat the darkness, I use the Wearable Lantern's mod from Chesko. You can buy oil for it, turn it off while you're sneaking, and even drop it while it's lit.
Nazenn Jan 3 @ 10:26am 
I actually find ELFX to be more realistic, while RLO goes for more averaged lighting over accuracy. CoT's modules just make everything darker no exception, even fire.

You can find a good comparison here
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YceSkJgy2gw
JohnDoe60 Jan 3 @ 7:26pm 
I went with CoT + RLO, then added...

Wearable Lanterns
http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/17416/?

...to shed some light on the dungeons, and...

Lanterns and Candles
http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/28377/?

...so I could activate existing candles and wizard lamps, and craft my own if necessary. Both of those work well with Hunterborn, which provides ingredients for crafting candles and lantern oil (although I usually go with a firefly or torch bug lamp then pick lots of flowers :) ).
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