Nerevar's Goat Butler Sep 1 @ 7:17am
Discussing the flaws of Skyrim
I already know what the responses to this will be. I'l surely get a "Your just a filthy casual who can't handle a real RPG." or maybe "Stupid Morrowind fanboys." perhaps even the good old "Must be a troll." but this game is incredibly overrated.

The combat in this game is god awful and if you don't see any flaws in it then you need to realize how much of a fanboy you are. Always hitting makes no sense and takes all strategy out of combat. I have never held a sledge hammer in my life, but I guarentee you I couldn't hit a guy with it. It is not "realistic" to hit people as much as your character does, I am willing to bet your character would win in a fist fight with god (Oh wait, the took out they ♥♥♥♥ing hand to hand skill). It is more realistic for your hit chance to go up, since you would get better at using your weapon and therefor better at hitting. The system doesn't aloow strategy since you can win just by clicking alot. Look at a game like XCOM, it's combat is done with a random chance, but there are factors to it. Your chance of hitting somebody goes up the closer you are to them. Keep in mind that in Skyrim, make you always make contact with your weapon and once you have done so, you simply kill them. No chance of failure.There is no method to it, you always hit even if you do have the IQ of a mentally incapacitated rock.

Characters are non-existant. Give the personality of any NPC, ANY at all. There is no personality, they are all just vending machines with copy-pasted dialogue. Morrowind may not have any realy memorable characters either, but at least they have personalities!

The journal is god awful. I will agree that it is annoying that the only way to know where to go in Morrowind is the journal. The thing is, Skrims journal sucks. The lack of organization and really bad directions, it is terrible. What is worse, following a marker that tells you where to go instead of reciving indepth directions to a location. Some missions have completely wrong directions, it's a nightmare.

I don't blame people for liking it, even the aspects I have listed. People who do are only huge Skyrim fans. Don't use these in arguements against Morrowind. This game has the fan base it does because of blind fanboism, not because it holds up. Feel free to like it and refuse to see the flaws in it, but please don't posting that you are right in the most smug way possible. (I get that it is kind of ironic, but I am countering some of the main points used to say Skyrim>Morrowind, I have seen all of these used to call Skyrim casual like it is the best thing a game can be.) I'm sure some people will find Skyrim and like it, but those people make up a fraction of it's player base.
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Asteo600 Sep 1 @ 7:20am 
Originally posted by Nerevar's Goat Butler:
Characters are non-existant. Give the personality of any NPC, ANY at all. There is no personality, they are all just vending machines with copy-pasted dialogue. Morrowind may not have any realy memorable characters either, but at least they have personalities!
What are you talking about? Despite NPCs you meet on the roads (farmers and nobles mostly), everyone has unique dialogue lines, and most of them have different conversations. I think you're confusing these 2 games, Morrowind was the one where you have same dialogue options and everyone (including their horrible voice acting) made you fell asleep.
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Nerevar's Goat Butler Sep 1 @ 7:22am 
Originally posted by Asteo600:
Originally posted by Nerevar's Goat Butler:
Characters are non-existant. Give the personality of any NPC, ANY at all. There is no personality, they are all just vending machines with copy-pasted dialogue. Morrowind may not have any realy memorable characters either, but at least they have personalities!
(including their horrible voice acting) made you fell asleep.
If you have the attention span of a rat (Sorry, "skeever" because they're TOTALLY different) maybe.
Originally posted by Nerevar's Goat Butler:
Originally posted by Asteo600:
(including their horrible voice acting) made you fell asleep.
If you have the attention span of a rat (Sorry, "skeever" because they're TOTALLY different) maybe.

I was halfway through typing mine!
Nerevar's Goat Butler Sep 1 @ 7:25am 
Originally posted by gardthethive:
Originally posted by Nerevar's Goat Butler:
If you have the attention span of a rat (Sorry, "skeever" because they're TOTALLY different) maybe.

I was halfway through typing mine!
I got to it first, I suppose. Go ahead and post yours though, just use a different title. I dont think they'll notice
The President Sep 1 @ 7:25am 
Glorious bugs.
Glorious glorious bugs.
Originally posted by The President:
Glorious bugs.
Glorious glorious bugs.

A bug in a hug in a mug. :)
Nerevar's Goat Butler Sep 1 @ 7:27am 
Originally posted by The President:
Glorious bugs.
Glorious glorious bugs.
So many god damned bugs
Nazenn Sep 1 @ 7:29am 
I personally find the vanilla game an unplayable, unpolished, badly designed mess in pretty much every single area, from bland and boring enviroments, repeditive combat and enemies and a very distinct lack of items or equipment and a lot of other problems I could list but cant be bothered. I can't play vanilla at all, however I do think that they things they did get right in the game left a good framework for others, as I do find a very heavily modded skyrim very enjoyable.
Ilja Sep 1 @ 7:30am 
Originally posted by Nerevar's Goat Butler:
Originally posted by The President:
Glorious bugs.
Glorious glorious bugs.
So many god damned bugs

Unofficial Skyrim Patch by Unofficial Patch Project Team
http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/19/?

1000 hours behind, another 1000 ahead.
Nerevar's Goat Butler Sep 1 @ 7:31am 
Originally posted by Ilja (Ref):
Originally posted by Nerevar's Goat Butler:
So many god damned bugs

Unofficial Skyrim Patch by Unofficial Patch Project Team
http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/19/?

1000 hours behind, another 1000 ahead.
You cant count mods that fix it as not having flaws.
Ilja Sep 1 @ 7:34am 
Originally posted by Nerevar's Goat Butler:
You cant count mods that fix it as not having flaws.
Who is counting? I am playing the game.
EbonHawk Sep 1 @ 7:49am 
Originally posted by Ilja (Ref):
Originally posted by Nerevar's Goat Butler:
You cant count mods that fix it as not having flaws.
Who is counting? I am playing the game.
+infinity
Nerevar's Goat Butler Sep 1 @ 7:50am 
Originally posted by EbonHawk:
Originally posted by Ilja (Ref):
Who is counting? I am playing the game.
+infinity
-finite amounts
The President Sep 1 @ 7:51am 
More glorious, Glorious bugs.
Gaweyne Sep 1 @ 8:34am 
1) Combat is fun and challenging if you start out on Legendary. You will die often and will have to adapt, use terrain, followers, enchanting, smithing etc.

2) My favourite personality in the game is Parthunaax the friendly dragon. ;D

3a) I fail to understand why people think the challenge of following directions is the quintessential RPG/gameplay challenge to eclipse all others. At best, it makes you superior to most men who refuse to ask for directions or read maps. For us lesser males, however, we can live without it in our games. Gaming won't suffer for lack of direction-following.

3b) The obligation to follow directions =/= hardcore game, or even hardcore gamer. Updated GPS system a la Quest Markers =/= dumb downed game or dumb gamer.

3c) As someone who has played MMORPGs before Skyrim and single player RPGs after it, I'll have to concede that the option not to follow the Quest Marker and a more detailed journal instead could have been programmed into the main-game without much effort. Perhaps this will happen next time around.

4) http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=275042554

5) I'd like to end by saying I probably will be the biggest Skyrim hipster in 2017 when TES 6 comes out. If I'm perfectly honest, I think nostalgia is among the most valid reasons to enjoy a game, book, movie, other work of art. A work of art is more than an aesthetic object. 'Tis the personal connection of viewer, gamer, reader with said object. It's perfectly ok to be critical of games, even unfairly critical and say said games are garbage (games aren't people with feelings after all). But it's a bit obnoxious to tell admirers of other games/films/books/movies that they're CoD-casual-dumbedown-fanboys. Even though you are free to say so if you wish. D:
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