Kongha Aug 18 @ 2:32pm
Load order without boss/loot
Hi there,
I cant seem to get LOOT (v 5 or 6) and BOSS (v 2.2/v 2.3) to work with Skyrim. LOOT throws every mod around while BOSS cant find any mods except the dlc. Could someone please take a look on how my load order is. It would be really kind of you.

=== Active Mod Files:
* 00 Skyrim.esm
* 01 Update.esm
* 02 Unofficial Skyrim Patch.esp [Version 2.0.6]
* 03 Dawnguard.esm
* 04 Unofficial Dawnguard Patch.esp [Version 2.0.6]
* 05 Dragonborn.esm
* 06 Unofficial Dragonborn Patch.esp [Version 2.0.6]
* 07 Lanterns Of Skyrim - All In One - Main.esm
* 08 HighResTexturePack01.esp
* 09 HighResTexturePack02.esp
* 0A HighResTexturePack03.esp
* 0B Unofficial High Resolution Patch.esp [Version 1.1.8]
* 0C SMIM-Merged-All.esp
* 0D Weapons & Armor Fixes_Remade.esp
* 0E Clothing & Clutter Fixes.esp
* 0F Clothing & Clutter Fixes_Dawnguard.esp
* 10 Clothing & Clutter Fixes_Dragonborn.esp
* 11 Chesko_Frostfall.esp
* 12 Better Dynamic Snow.esp
* 13 RevampedExteriorFog.esp
* 14 SplashofRain.esp
* 15 Windfull Skyrim.esp
* 16 AOS.esp
* 17 mintylightningmod.esp
* 18 83Willows_101BUGS_V4_LowerRes_HighSpawn.esp
* 19 Farm Animals.esp
* 1A KaceAutoloot.esp
* 1B Birdsofskyrim.esp
* 1C Chesko_WearableLantern.esp
* 1D EpisodeParallax.esp
* 1E Lanterns Of Skyrim - Around Cities_bright.esp
* 1F Radiant and Unique Potions and Poisons v2.0.esp
* 20 Real Clouds.esp
* 21 SDO Full-LOD - Giant Campfires.esp
* 22 SDO Full-LOD - The Morthal Swamp Complete.esp
* 23 SDO Full-LOD - Waterfall Effects.esp
* 24 SDO Full-LOD - Whiterun Trundra Creeks.esp
* 25 Skyrim Immersive Creatures.esp [Version v6.5.2a]
* 26 Immersive Patrols II.esp
* 27 Skyrim Flora Overhaul.esp
* 28 SMDropLitTorch.esp
* 29 Smoking Torches.esp
* 2A WetandCold.esp
* 2B WetandCold - Ashes.esp
* 2C WetandCold - Holidays.esp
* 2D AOS2_WetandCold Patch.esp
* 2E Footprints.esp
* 2F Footprints - Ash.esp
* 30 SkyUI.esp
* 31 iHUD.esp
* 32 SkyrimConfigMenu.esp
* 33 AMB Glass Variants Lore.esp
* 34 Cloaks.esp
* 35 1nivWICCloaks.esp [Version 2.3]
* 36 1nivWICSkyCloaksPatch.esp [Version 2.3]
* 37 Hothtrooper44_Armor_Ecksstra.esp
* 38 Hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp
* 39 Immersive Weapons.esp
* 3A WeaponsArmorFixes_ImmersiveWeapons_Patch.esp
* 3B imp_helm.esp
* 3C imp_helm_dawn.esp
* 3D imp_help_dbrn.esp
* 3E Lore Weapon Expansion.esp [Version 1.3]
* 3F Dr_Bandolier.esp
* 40 Smithing Perks Overhaul_Remade.esp
* 41 Complete Crafting Overhaul_Remade.esp
* 42 Complete Crafting Overhaul_Dawnguard.esp
* 43 Complete Crafting Overhaul_Dragonborn.esp
* 44 CCO_Frostfall_Patch.esp
* 45 Requiem.esp
* 46 Requiem - SIC Patch.esp
* 47 Requiem - Immersive Weapons.esp
* 48 Requiem - CCOR Patch.esp
* 49 Requiem - Frostfall.esp
* 4A Requiem - WAF+Clothing and Clutter Fixes Patch.esp
* 4B Requiem - Immersive Armors.esp
* 4C Requiem - Immersive Patrols II.esp
* 4D AOS2_Requiem1.7.3 Patch.esp
* 4E Immersive Darkwater crossing.esp
* 4F Immersive Dawnstar.esp
* 50 Immersive Dragon Bridge.esp
* 51 Immersive Falkreath.esp
* 52 Immersive Ivarstead.esp
* 53 Immersive Karthwasten.esp
* 54 Immersive Kynesgrove.esp
* 55 Immersive Morthal.esp
* 56 Immersive Orc Strongholds.esp
* 57 Immersive Riverwood.esp
* 58 Immersive Rorikstead.esp
* 59 Immersive Shors stone.esp
* 5A Immersive Solstheim.esp
* 5B Immersive Stonehills.esp
* 5C Immersive Whiterun.esp
* 5D Inconsequential NPCs.esp
* 5E SkyFalls + SkyMills + DG + DB.esp
* 5F SkyFalls Dragonborn Small waterfalls.esp
* 60 Run For Your Lives.esp [Version 2.0.3]
* 61 The Paarthurnax Dilemma.esp [Version 1.2.8]
* 62 360WalkandRunPlus-RunBackwardSpeedAdjust.esp
* 63 Differently Ebony.esp
* 64 GrassOnSteroids_NaturalEdition_SFO.esp
* 65 Guard Dialogue Overhaul.esp
* 66 AOS2_GDO Patch.esp
* 67 Immersive Sounds - Compendium.esp
* 68 ISCompendium AOS Patch.esp
* ++ ISCompendium CCO Patch.esp
* 69 ISCompendium Requiem Patch.esp
* 6A SFO - Dragonborn.esp
* 6B manny Lantern Caretakers.esp
* 6C Remove Interior Fog V2 - Skyrim.esp
* 6D Remove Interior Fog V2 - Dragonborn.esp
* 6E Remove Interior Fog V2 - Dawnguard.esp
* 6F iNeed.esp
* 70 TwoRings.esp
* 71 UnreadBooksGlow.esp [Version 2.2.0]
* 72 aMidianborn_Skyforge_Weapons.esp
* 73 Oblivion Gates v3 - Skyrim + Dawnguard DLC.esp
* 74 Unique Grasses.esp
* 75 Populated Cities 2.esp
* 76 Oblivion Gates in Cities.esp [Version 1.0]
* 77 No Killmoves, No Killcams, No Killbites.esp
* 78 Skyrim Sizes.esp
* 79 getSnowy.esp
* 7A RealisticWaterTwo.esp
* 7B RealisticWaterTwo - Waves.esp
* 7C RealisticWaterTwo - Dawnguard.esp
* 7D RealisticWaterTwo - Waves - Dawnguard.esp
* 7E RealisticWaterTwo - Dragonborn.esp
* 7F AOS2_RealisticWaterTwo Patch.esp
* 80 Watercolor_for_ENB_RWT.esp
* 81 BarenziahQuestMarkers.esp
* 82 fallentreebridges.esp
* 83 Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp [Version 2.5.1a]
* 84 Bashed Patch, 0.esp
Last edited by Kongha; Aug 18 @ 2:33pm
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Kelvy Aug 18 @ 2:40pm 
How did you try to load LOOT?
Press big download button
Open page
Go to bottom of page
Press install button(not the zip button)
Follow instructions
It should do the rest
TheNovemberMan Aug 18 @ 2:50pm 
LOOT is easy to download and use. LOOT is Skyrim's best-friend
rbull Aug 18 @ 3:05pm 
Are you having problems related to the load order? I know you can get totally different suggestions for loader from LOOT and BOSS. I would just use one or the other if I was you. I wqould check out "Gopher" tutorials on YouTube about load order if you haven't done it already.
Kelvy Aug 18 @ 3:12pm 
BOSS is not supported (being fazed out), LOOT is the new (boss) so forget BOSS and use LOOT.
Kongha Aug 18 @ 11:53pm 
Originally posted by Kelvy:
How did you try to load LOOT?
Press big download button
Open page
Go to bottom of page
Press install button(not the zip button)
Follow instructions
It should do the rest

Thank you for your advice. Your suggestion is how I installed the program. When I the mods are all put in a strange way (ie immersive town mods are not togheter while others that should be near each other is spread all around). Is it because Ive cleaned the mods with TES5Edit or that I first tried LOOT5 and then installed LOOT6?

This is how it looks like with Loot6, Requiem is for example rather high in the load order while it should be in the bottom (if Ive understood its readme right)
Skyrim.esm
Update.esm
Unofficial Skyrim Patch.esp
Dawnguard.esm
Unofficial Dawnguard Patch.esp
Dragonborn.esm
Unofficial Dragonborn Patch.esp
Lanterns Of Skyrim - All In One - Main.esm
HighResTexturePack01.esp
HighResTexturePack02.esp
HighResTexturePack03.esp
Unofficial High Resolution Patch.esp
Footprints.esp
BarenziahQuestMarkers.esp
Requiem.esp
AMB Glass Variants Lore.esp
Chesko_WearableLantern.esp
getSnowy.esp
No Killmoves, No Killcams, No Killbites.esp
Differently Ebony.esp
Better Dynamic Snow.esp
Smoking Torches.esp
360WalkandRunPlus-RunBackwardSpeedAdjust.esp
Hothtrooper44_Armor_Ecksstra.esp
mintylightningmod.esp
Guard Dialogue Overhaul.esp
Footprints - Ash.esp
Skyrim Sizes.esp
83Willows_101BUGS_V4_LowerRes_HighSpawn.esp
iHUD.esp
EpisodeParallax.esp
SDO Full-LOD - The Morthal Swamp Complete.esp
SkyUI.esp
SkyrimConfigMenu.esp
SMDropLitTorch.esp
SplashofRain.esp
TwoRings.esp
UnreadBooksGlow.esp
Weapons & Armor Fixes_Remade.esp
AOS.esp
RevampedExteriorFog.esp
Clothing & Clutter Fixes.esp
Complete Crafting Overhaul_Remade.esp
Immersive Sounds - Compendium.esp
ISCompendium AOS Patch.esp
Requiem - Dragonborn - CCOR Patch.esp
Requiem - CCOR Patch.esp
Skyrim Immersive Creatures.esp
Immersive Weapons.esp
fallentreebridges.esp
SkyFalls + SkyMills + DG + DB.esp
SkyFalls Dragonborn Small waterfalls.esp
RealisticWaterTwo.esp
AOS2_RealisticWaterTwo Patch.esp
Watercolor_for_ENB_RWT.esp
Birdsofskyrim.esp
Requiem - SIC Patch.esp
Requiem - Dragonborn - SIC - CCOR Patch.esp
Complete Crafting Overhaul_Dragonborn.esp
Remove Interior Fog V2 - Skyrim.esp
Remove Interior Fog V2 - Dawnguard.esp
Remove Interior Fog V2 - Dragonborn.esp
Dr_Bandolier.esp
Windfull Skyrim.esp
Requiem - Immersive Weapons.esp
Requiem - WAF+Clothing and Clutter Fixes Patch.esp
ISCompendium Requiem Patch.esp
ISCompendium CCO Patch.esp
AOS2_Requiem1.7.3 Patch.esp
Radiant and Unique Potions and Poisons v2.0.esp
WeaponsArmorFixes_ImmersiveWeapons_Patch.esp
Lore Weapon Expansion.esp
WetandCold.esp
AOS2_WetandCold Patch.esp
WetandCold - Holidays.esp
Hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp
Oblivion Gates v3 - Skyrim + Dawnguard DLC.esp
Requiem - Immersive Armors.esp
imp_help_dbrn.esp
aMidianborn_Skyforge_Weapons.esp
AOS2_GDO Patch.esp
SDO Full-LOD - Waterfall Effects.esp
Inconsequential NPCs.esp
Immersive Whiterun.esp
Immersive Dawnstar.esp
Cloaks.esp
1nivWICCloaks.esp
1nivWICSkyCloaksPatch.esp
Run For Your Lives.esp
Immersive Riverwood.esp
Immersive Orc Strongholds.esp
Immersive Falkreath.esp
SDO Full-LOD - Whiterun Trundra Creeks.esp
Immersive Rorikstead.esp
SMIM-Merged-All.esp
RealisticWaterTwo - Waves.esp
Populated Cities 2.esp
Clothing & Clutter Fixes_Dawnguard.esp
Complete Crafting Overhaul_Dawnguard.esp
Immersive Solstheim.esp
Immersive Patrols II.esp
Clothing & Clutter Fixes_Dragonborn.esp
Smithing Perks Overhaul_Remade.esp
imp_helm.esp
imp_helm_dawn.esp
SFO - Dragonborn.esp
Immersive Morthal.esp
Requiem - Immersive Patrols II.esp
Immersive Ivarstead.esp
Farm Animals.esp
Immersive Dragon Bridge.esp
Immersive Shors stone.esp
Immersive Karthwasten.esp
Lanterns Of Skyrim - Around Cities_bright.esp
Skyrim Flora Overhaul.esp
Chesko_Frostfall.esp
CCO_Frostfall_Patch.esp
Requiem - Frostfall.esp
Unique Grasses.esp
GrassOnSteroids_NaturalEdition_SFO.esp
Immersive Darkwater crossing.esp
Immersive Stonehills.esp
Immersive Kynesgrove.esp
RealisticWaterTwo - Dragonborn.esp
manny Lantern Caretakers.esp
KaceAutoloot.esp
The Paarthurnax Dilemma.esp
RealisticWaterTwo - Waves - Dawnguard.esp
SDO Full-LOD - Giant Campfires.esp
RealisticWaterTwo - Dawnguard.esp
Oblivion Gates in Cities.esp
iNeed.esp
Real Clouds.esp
WetandCold - Ashes.esp
Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp
Bashed Patch, 0.esp

Last edited by Kongha; Aug 19 @ 12:19am
Kongha Aug 18 @ 11:54pm 
Originally posted by Trigger:
LOOT is easy to download and use. LOOT is Skyrim's best-friend
:) I do hope it will be my friend, Ive tried different versions but the program will just throw the mods around.
Kongha Aug 18 @ 11:56pm 
Originally posted by rbull:
Are you having problems related to the load order? I know you can get totally different suggestions for loader from LOOT and BOSS. I would just use one or the other if I was you. I wqould check out "Gopher" tutorials on YouTube about load order if you haven't done it already.
Gophers tutorials are the best. I did follow them when modding Fallout3/New vegas and Oblivion and didnt run into this kind of problem.
LOOT just throws the mods around while BOSS isnt function for me at all when running it on Skyrim. When Im trying BOSS on Oblivion everything works.
Kelvy Aug 19 @ 3:41am 
Loot only sorts game load order and tells you other things like messages,warnings and errors, dirty edits etc. Is this LOOT detail list or yours?.
Mod load order is different to game load order.
Mod load order is how mods are installed whether before or after other mods and which mods must be in game to make other mods work. Most mods depend on masters like the main game, DLCs and other mods. A quick check on that is in NMM plugin page, highlight a mod and it will show the masters that it requires.
Kongha Aug 19 @ 4:25am 
Originally posted by Kelvy:
Loot only sorts game load order and tells you other things like messages,warnings and errors, dirty edits etc. Is this LOOT detail list or yours?.
Mod load order is different to game load order.
Mod load order is how mods are installed whether before or after other mods and which mods must be in game to make other mods work. Most mods depend on masters like the main game, DLCs and other mods. A quick check on that is in NMM plugin page, highlight a mod and it will show the masters that it requires.

Both lists are mine. The first one is a try to manual put the mods in a good order from NMM (I mimic Requiem patch load order). the second list is what LOOT suggests.
Panda Aug 19 @ 4:28am 
Personally, I would follow LOOT. Haven't done me wrong yet. What load order have you been using before?
Last edited by Panda; Aug 19 @ 4:29am
Bullwinkle Aug 19 @ 4:34am 
As Gopher says don't stress when different programs suggest radically different load orders. There are many right ways to order your load. Personally, I'd follow LOOT
Kelvy Aug 19 @ 4:43am 
Yes but it show no details with the mods, all you have done is loaded the mods names I want to see what loot says about them.
Ilja Aug 19 @ 4:45am 
LOOT is the most trusted load order sorting too we have and I strongly recommend you to trust in it. However, there are no tool or single method to properly do what you are trying to do in one load order.

I had a problem in my own load order. If I left it how LOOT did it, then one of my mods (important to my game) did not work at all. Moving it rendered other mod useless and moving it further caused CTD.

I fixed this by moving permanently to Mod Organizer. My right panel (load order) is set by LOOT. I don't make any changes to it, except adding or removing mods.

I deal with the left panel. I first set it to correspond the real load order. Then I change the priority of problem mods to face what I actually want them to do. For most situations - about 99%, without exaggerating – I manage to get them all play along nicely.

My suggestion is that you follow the same path. If your current load order causes you trouble, move to MO. Let LOOT to handle your right panel and give your full trust to it. See what is overwriting what from left panel and move them to more proper positions in priority, if they are causing problems. It has a slight learning curve, but I consider it was worth it.

Mod Organizer by Tannin
http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/1334/?

Good luck.
Last edited by Ilja; Aug 19 @ 4:45am
Kelvy Aug 19 @ 4:48am 
Sample of what I and others are looking for
• UFO - Ultimate Follower Overhaul.esp
CRC: 167AB0FE
Version: 1.2j
o Note: For safe install need dismiss all your followers, save, delete all included mods, load again, save and install UFO. For safe uninstall or update see special instructions on mod page.

This is a message attached to this mod
Kongha Aug 19 @ 4:49am 
Originally posted by Panda:
Personally, I would follow LOOT. Haven't done me wrong yet. What load order have you been using before?
Ivent played Skyrim since for ever, what I did then (what I remember) was the same thing as with Oblivion. BOSS, clean with TES5edit and then Wryebash.
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