Completely new copy of Skyrim crashes on startup...
I just bought Skyrim, and i've already had to try reinstalling it three times and try out many solutions from the internet. Most support topics are made when people have too many mods and their load order is messed up, but now, just after the bethesda logo, the whole game just shuts off.

I bought a fully legal copy, did nothing to tamper with it, and here it is, crashing instantly, yet I used the pirated version to benchmark skyrim on my PC to see if my PSU could actually handle it, and that version started completely fine.

Before you guys turn into typical steam forums ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥s who moan whenever the word "Pirate" appears, I used the free version to see if the game would crash my PC because my PSU can't keep up with the demand from my GPU and the whole computer crashes on some games. Now that i've confirmed that the game works, i made a fully legal purchase and now it crashes on startup. (quite ironic that i could get a quality game pirated, but not through a legitimate service that you expect quality from)

I can't really say much else. I've already tried to change my sound setting to 16 bit and every other solution is related to the load order of mods.

Has anyone else experienced this at all or do I need to look elsewhere for help? I was thinking to go to tech support but I've never used a tech support service before. What I think might have caused it is that the previous, pirated, benchmarking version of Skyrim left behind it's files, because I forgot to remove them, and now that I bought the full version, it seems to be using the older version of TESV, although after reinstalling and removing all traces of that old pirated piece of ♥♥♥♥ version that I still feel guilty about, the game continues to crash.

I just finished a major test in a programming class i've been in for the last year, and I was hoping to sit down and enjoy a nice new game as a reward for completing the whole year, but now i've got this ♥♥♥♥ happening, and i'm really not in a good mood anymore, so I would kindly apprieciate if you could just help out instead of flipping out over the fact that I pirated the game to benchmark.

I'm no fan of piracy, I know what it does and how it kills the gaming industry, but all the proof is there. I own a fully legal copy and i have removed that old, pirated version, so i'd appreciate if I could just get some actual help instead of hate.

Thanks in advance.
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Chapolin Jul 31 @ 1:42pm 
Your Skyrim is pure blood right? Without any mod or addon? Did you clean all the register in your machine from the last Jack Sparrow installation that you did before? Deleted the older files from the C: of your pc? Im just asking for a clean direction, maybe I could help you with this, I had this same problem one time, and you will have some trouble to solve, but maybe is possible.
Jesse "Cap'n Cook" Pinkman Jul 31 @ 1:57pm 
I really do think it is. It is definitly a completely new copy but all of the older files keep cropping up after I search for them. I've already removed the old launcher and TESV, but i still found some things like save data and some .ini files that were in completely different directories. If there are any files left that are messing with the legitmate launcher, they're well hidden. I'm pretty sure I've blitzed as much of the PC as I could.

Also, just a note for anyone else who decides to respond, I have already bought a fully priced PS3 version of the game, so please don't make a big deal of the pirated benchmarking version I owned before.
Chapolin Jul 31 @ 2:05pm 
Relax....there are 2 things that you must make sure to see, all the saved games must be deleted, and the root folder of the game too, after uninstall the game of course, when the game was deleted from the machine use any proagram to clean your register, like CCleaner just to make sure all the older archives are gone. Then you install the game again and try to open it, and just for note, see if your OS is compatible with the game, you could put the game in compatibility mode with XP and see if changes anything...sorry if I couldn't for more help, this problem is no specific, so can be many things....
Rusty Jul 31 @ 2:07pm 
Try taking the old .INI that worked with the pirate version, and put that in the folder with the new save data.
If that doesnt work... Contact Bethesda support, but leave out the part of owning the game before..
Mormacil Jul 31 @ 2:20pm 
Run LOOT, maybe the ESMs are in the wrong order. It happens at times.
Jesse "Cap'n Cook" Pinkman Jul 31 @ 2:32pm 
Originally posted by Mormacil:
Run LOOT, maybe the ESMs are in the wrong order. It happens at times.

I'm gonna look for what that is and try it out.
Jesse "Cap'n Cook" Pinkman Jul 31 @ 2:33pm 
Originally posted by  Rusty :
Try taking the old .INI that worked with the pirate version, and put that in the folder with the new save data.
If that doesnt work... Contact Bethesda support, but leave out the part of owning the game before..

I already deleted the old .ini files because I assumed they were made for the older versions of skyrim and not the new 1.9 update.
Golmore Jul 31 @ 2:54pm 
In general it is a terrible idea to admit to piracy in any form here as Valve will likely ban you upon seeing it.
Golmore Jul 31 @ 2:57pm 
My personal bit of advice is to get Mod Organizer. http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/1334/?
It has LOOT built in and will let you modify your load order better. Also get SKSE http://skse.silverlock.org/
and the Unofficial Skyrim Patch(es)
http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/19/?

All of this should rule out a ton of bugs.
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Kelvy Jul 31 @ 2:59pm 
You have two copies in your system remove the old and reverify the new copy.
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Jesse "Cap'n Cook" Pinkman Jul 31 @ 3:24pm 
Originally posted by Golmore:
My personal bit of advice is to get Mod Organizer. http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/1334/?
It has LOOT built in and will let you modify your load order better. Also get SKSE http://skse.silverlock.org/
and the Unofficial Skyrim Patch(es)
http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/19/?

All of this should rule out a ton of bugs.

1: I don't need to modify any load order. I don't have any mods.
2: SKSE is uncessary if I don't have any mods.

As for the piracy thing, I think it should be alright. I don't support piracy at all, I just use it to benchmark games because my PC is highly unreliable. (I got Red Faction guerrilla and it crashed within the first couple of minutes of gameplay, thus showing me that I should make sure I can run a game before buying it). Either way, I already own the PS3 version of skyrim, and I have legally paid for the PC version. I really think a ban for this would be completely unecessary, as I have already made two legal purchases of the game, and only used one free version to make sure I could actually play the game first.

If i hadn't have used a free version to benchmark, I wouldn't have bought the game, meaning that Valve don't make any money. Bethesda are still getting two payments for their game, and i'm simply making sure that game works before buying it, although it doesn't seem to be working properly yet, seeing as i'm getting these crashes.
Jesse "Cap'n Cook" Pinkman Jul 31 @ 3:24pm 
Originally posted by Kelvy:
You have two copies in your system remove the old and reverify the new copy.

Removing the old copy isn't exactly easy. There are still traces of it all over the place.
CrimzonWarlord Jul 31 @ 3:27pm 
Well would like to say im sorry to see you having trouble but since you openly admit to using a pirate version it kinda serves you right. Who knows what else it installed in your machine and who downloads pirate games to see if they are gonna run, you can use the site can I run this for that. You could also looks at the specs on a game but to steal a copy for what ever reason is bs. I hope they add you to the list of banned accounts like the other people who thought it was a good idea to say in a public forum they stole games.
Last edited by CrimzonWarlord; Jul 31 @ 3:29pm
Kelvy Jul 31 @ 3:34pm 
Use uninstall program and remove it there, or use IObit Advanced SystemCare - iobit.net‎
Adadvanced-systemcare.iobit.net/ program it will help sort your mess out (free trial period or pay for it)
Last edited by Kelvy; Jul 31 @ 3:34pm
Golmore Jul 31 @ 3:35pm 
Originally posted by Grizzly:
Originally posted by Golmore:
My personal bit of advice is to get Mod Organizer. http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/1334/?
It has LOOT built in and will let you modify your load order better. Also get SKSE http://skse.silverlock.org/
and the Unofficial Skyrim Patch(es)
http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/19/?

All of this should rule out a ton of bugs.

1: I don't need to modify any load order. I don't have any mods.
2: SKSE is uncessary if I don't have any mods.

As for the piracy thing, I think it should be alright. I don't support piracy at all, I just use it to benchmark games because my PC is highly unreliable. (I got Red Faction guerrilla and it crashed within the first couple of minutes of gameplay, thus showing me that I should make sure I can run a game before buying it). Either way, I already own the PS3 version of skyrim, and I have legally paid for the PC version. I really think a ban for this would be completely unecessary, as I have already made two legal purchases of the game, and only used one free version to make sure I could actually play the game first.

If i hadn't have used a free version to benchmark, I wouldn't have bought the game, meaning that Valve don't make any money. Bethesda are still getting two payments for their game, and i'm simply making sure that game works before buying it, although it doesn't seem to be working properly yet, seeing as i'm getting these crashes.

You may need to modify your load order in the rare case that your main .esm files aren't where they should be, as Mormacil said. And SKSE and the unofficial patches just solve so many bugs that you have no reason not to use them.
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