Kodora Sep 15, 2012 @ 8:23am
Localization Quirks
I love the translation and localization job they did with this game. The first one I noticed that made my jaw drop was when I first got the Sandwich Plate and read its description:
"A very strange piece of armor found in ruins. Illegible writing can be seen on it... what's a "tea party"?"
I couldn't help but go "Wait, did they really put that in there?!" and reread it again.

I love it when games throw in current events and cultural phoenomena. Has anyone else run into some good ones?
Last edited by Kodora; Sep 15, 2012 @ 8:24am
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Tealus Oct 20, 2012 @ 4:35pm 
lol, you need to read more. That's a reference to Alice in Wonderland's tea party.
Ryuu-kun Oct 21, 2012 @ 2:55am 
If Kodora is about political movement, then i think he's right, because it's a sandwich plate: http://recettear.wikia.com/wiki/Sandwich_Plate
It's hard to link it to Alice.
Tealus Oct 21, 2012 @ 7:42pm 
Wow, two people that hasn't read Alice's Adventures in Wonderland by Lewis Carroll. Seriously read more. It's a reference to Mad Hatter's riddle during the tea party where Alice has tea and sandwich.

You took the time to go to Recettear's wikia and didn't bother to take the time to see when it was created. It was released in Japan in 2007, well before the Tea party movement which started taking mainstream in 2009.
Ryuu-kun Oct 22, 2012 @ 5:03am 
I've read it, but i think in Russian this riddle sounds different :).

Maybe you're right, but release date in Japan is irrelevant, CarpeFulgur took it for localization much later, and most likely it's they who added reference to whatever :). Release date for Steam English version is 11 Sep 2010, after the 2009.
Ryuu-kun Oct 22, 2012 @ 5:15am 
So, more on sandwiches: (source: http://www.gutenberg.org/files/11/11.txt )

"'Take some more tea,' the March Hare said to Alice, very earnestly.

'I've had nothing yet,' Alice replied in an offended tone, 'so I can't
take more.'

'You mean you can't take LESS,' said the Hatter: 'it's very easy to take
MORE than nothing.'

'Nobody asked YOUR opinion,' said Alice.

'Who's making personal remarks now?' the Hatter asked triumphantly.

Alice did not quite know what to say to this: so she helped herself
to some tea and bread-and-butter, and then turned to the Dormouse, and
repeated her question."

There's no sandwich :).
Tealus Oct 22, 2012 @ 6:23am 
Ok, since you're Russian. I'll give you a pass.

Tea party is a reference to the Mad Hatter's riddle, not the sandwich itself. Mad Hatter's riddle was "Illegible". The sandwich shows up elsewhere in the story. Also ignoring the fact that many artist sometime when painting/drawing the Mad Hatter Tea Party scene, use sandwiches.

"Alice felt dreadfully puzzled. The Hatter's remark seemed to have no sort of meaning in it, and yet it was certainly English. 'I don't quite understand you,' she said, as politely as she could."

You were almost there but stop short. It does not have to say it "word for word" for it to reference a scene. But that item is a reference to Lewis Carroll, Alice's Adventure in Wonderland.

Originally posted by Ryuu-kun:
There's no sandwich :).
Correct, no sandwich. But a sandwich plate yes. ;) Which is the riddle.
Ryuu-kun Oct 22, 2012 @ 7:36am 
Still not convinced before CarpeFulgur themselves will confirm this, but whatever :).
Let's wait for someone to find a third deeper meaning in this item's description, or someone who knows Japanese to check the original text :).
Ryuu-kun Oct 23, 2012 @ 10:46am 
i wonder if anybody knows what reference contains http://recettear.wikia.com/wiki/Shortcake : "The sweetheart of cakes, strawberries and cream make it wonderful. Does not transform into a little girl."?
GARBAGE DAY?!? Oct 23, 2012 @ 8:30pm 
Yes... it was an Alice reference.

And to your second question, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strawberry_Shortcake.
GARBAGE DAY?!? Oct 23, 2012 @ 8:31pm 
Also I prefer the Power Glove reference. It's SO bad!
Ryuu-kun Oct 24, 2012 @ 12:11pm 
Originally posted by Thor Of Asgard:
Yes... it was an Alice reference.
All right, if you too agree :). Thinking of it, really it's unlikely for a translator to insert a reference to local(national) political subject, that will be forgotten in some time. Classics references are better).

Originally posted by Thor Of Asgard:
And to your second question, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strawberry_Shortcake.
Thanks, seem to be never heard of it. By the looks she could fit into Recettear :).

Originally posted by Thor Of Asgard:
Also I prefer the Power Glove reference. It's SO bad!
Recettear Wikia states two additional references by this item: http://recettear.wikia.com/wiki/Power_Glove
Ryuu-kun Oct 24, 2012 @ 12:26pm 
Also community have found some more references in other items: http://recettear.wikia.com/wiki/index.php?search=reference&fulltext=Search
This one is amusing: http://recettear.wikia.com/wiki/Magical_Hat
ldragonlong Nov 13, 2012 @ 1:04am 
Found this off of gamefaqs, thought it was hilarious.
http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/ShoutOut/Recettear
Ryuu-kun Nov 13, 2012 @ 6:49am 
Thanks for sharing a link, that's a great list! Should integrate it in the wiki in spare time.
Funny, but even it doesn't comment Sandwich Plate :).
SpaceDrake  [developer] Nov 16, 2012 @ 5:56pm 
The big thing to remember is this: a reference can always be multi-layered. :3
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