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That said, she isn't my favorite; I generally prefer Tielle, Griff, or Nagi.
I find Tielle and Nagi harder to use, but as Saabs said, we'll all have different favourites.
Tiell is another I can't get on with due to her attack method (holding to fire). I'm probably too impatient.
I was actually considering Nagi as my 2nd after Lou for the next time I start fresh again.
Been considering from the start someone who uses spears anyway.
The idea of using a "ranged melee" fighter appeals to me.
Nagi was a pleasant enough encounter, if somewhat odd.
I just have to stick with an "debt paid" save long enough to actually get her basic card before I decide for certain.
Not so confident in using an archer, but more so than a caster like "Mr. Slime Liver Jerk".
For now, you probably do want to stick with Louie, since it sounds like you're barely even into Amber Way, and early on his gear types offset the fact that he's a one-trick horse with nearly useless skills, virtually no SP to use them, and moves too slow to avoid much. Later on, enemies start putting out obscene amounts of damage, and the focus shifts to evasion and killing them as quickly and smoothly as possible. Charme can do that fantastically...provided you already know their patterns and what to expect. When you're ready to break out our lovely thief...
First, forget about her guard. The only time I ever use Charme's guard is when taking on the lines of four rock-throwing kobolds in the endgame dungeons. I'm sure people who play tons of Street Fighter can use it more reliably otherwise, but it's less useful compared to...
Second, get very friendly with your diagonals. They key to playing Charme is attacking safely, and almost everything in the game attacks along cardinal directions.
Third, keep your fire dash ready. It's expensive at first, but by the time you hit level 25 or so you'll have enough SP to use it whenever you need to until a level-up refills it. Fire dashing doesn't do much damage, but it a) makes you invincible and can boost you out of a corner -- through enemies if necessary, like the 3x pillbug boss or getting surrounded by tentacles -- and b) its hitbox extends vertically which means you can kill bees with it. In the later dungeons, bees hit obscenely hard and are almost always worth spending SP to clear out. Also, you can fire dash diagonally, which keeps you safe even during most boss fights.
Fourth, don't worry too much about armor -- her defense is kinda crap, you should be focusing on evasion, and you don't want to be bringing more than 1-2 important pieces of gear into a dungeon in case you eat dirt (I'm guessing you can still hold only one item when retreating. That changes soon if your merchant level has been going up at a good pace). Instead, give her the best knife you have on you at all times, because her key strength other than moving ludicrously quickly is killing things ludicrously quickly. An MDef charm is also a good idea. By the time MDef really starts counting, you can usually make a Miracle Charm without too much trouble. Once the debt is paid off, you can start buying disposable Healing Rings that'll keep you alive when you screw up -- 10,000 pix seems like a lot to be calling disposable now, but in the postgame it's pocket change.
Side note: If you ever see a Mana Charm drop from a chest, exit the dungeon safely as quickly as possible. If you die before you get there, take the Mana Charm back even if you lose good fused gear in the process. Mana Charms fuse into Ancient Charms. They're the best MDef accessory you'll see for the vast majority of the game, you use so many materials making its components that you almost always get a +15, their MDef is hilariously far above the next closest thing, and they're an ingredient in the final-rank MDef charm fusion. Make it, never sell it to anyone, bring it on every dungeon run from then on, and guard it with your life.
When fighting character bosses, all of them but Tielle will fall down and all of their attacks interrupted after two consecutive hits. So you adopt a hit-and-run strategy. You run circles around them, bait them into an attack, knife them in the side before they complete it, and then fire dash through them to knockdown and get away safely. Actually it works pretty well on Tielle too even without the knockdown, so long as you dash diagonally so she can't hit you again.
Non-character bosses are typically much more straightforward: wait for an opening, bring out 2-3 Shadow Clones, then eat their face and collect loot. The most powerful attack in the game is Caillou's Sparkburst at close range; Charme with 2-3 shadow clones is a close second, and you can keep moving the whole time. Non-character bosses die stupidly fast this way (most of them in just a few swings), and for things like Samhains or Eyebat Kings it's critical to end the fight as quickly as possible before the screen gets too cluttered, or at least bring one down before they attack.
I'll be sure to check this thread and take your advice under consideration next time I step out of my comfort zone by trying Charme. In the meantime though, I don't see her becoming one of my top 3 most compatible adventurers any time reasonably soon. Still... Thanks for trying.
Before that, just give her vendor ones. The Rank 1 fusion is garbage, as are all the rare drops you get until postgame.
Also, this is just personal preference, but when I used Charme in survival mode, using things that give an attack boost (strongarm band, capes, pirate hat, etc...) to an already fast-attacking character can let you take out enemies quickly to avoid being surrounded, while the slight loss of defense compared to an otherwise superior piece of equipment is okay, as it's easier with her to dodge or invincibility dash through anything that doesn't flat out surprise you.
I do not like looping. Ever. None of my new games are "New Game+".
I am told that New+ counts as an added loop. Thus that is not a factor.
After the first month when all the debt is paid, I can take my time to experiment with other adventurers without the time limit hanging over my neck. My issue is with the first month.
The catch is by the time I clear Jade Way, I usually have Lou levelled so far ahead of the others that switching to anybody else (especially Charme) to clear Amber Garden seems like a silly idea at best and more often suicidal when considering that I try to clear all dungeons before Obsidian Tower in one visit each to avoid wasting time better spent selling in the shop.
After clearing Amber Garden, I tend to stick to the shop and town for the rest of the month.
One sees that this makes the choice of adventurer mostly irrelevant until after the first month.
On top of everything else; after the first month, there is no need to hold back on spending out of fear of not having enough to make the next payment on due day.
Thus I end up spending (almost) everything on new stock and end up with Lou anyway as the only one willing to work at such a high level for practically nothing.
Besides all this distilling down to "I secretly hate money, so I obsessively spend as much of it as I can when I can." when examined, the question arises "Why bother adventuring at all after buying so much stock?". The obvious answer is "To complete the item encyclopedia." which requires fusion ingredients only found in dungeons.
If I want anyone other than Lou after that first month, I will have to control my spending. *sigh*
Hey there Tarmin! Interesting post there, but I have to ask why you don't like looping?
Forgive me if I'm wrong, but isn't it going to be nigh on impossible (or horribly, horribly frustration) to get to Arma without looping? I've forgotten which dungeon she's occurs in, but don't you have to unlock her in New Game + in order to get the true card (and thus complete the encyclopedia)?
Again, I could be wrong, but I loved the New Game + . It was all about the dungeon crawling, character interractions and so forth.
Plus, back on the topic, I love Charme's double/treble ghost twin fighter skill. Sorry I don't know the name, but as people have said, it's marvellous for shortening boss fights (my experience only).