[CM]Makina Jul 16, 2013 @ 11:50pm
An original idea, not executed very well.
Premises and promises
Being a fan and veteran of RPG-style games, I got excited when I read about this game. Instead of playing a hero, collecting loot and experience, you are a shop owner said hero would encounter on his travels! Very original.
You play Recette , a girl who is left with the family shop after her dad suddenly leaves. He leaves a heavy debt too, and if not paid off, Recettear will lose the shop and probably end up under a bridge in a box. She gets help from a fairy named Tear, who wants to see the debt being paid off because it is her company’s money. She is basically this game’s tutorial/faq.
So, how does this all play out? Read on…

Time flies when you’re having fun… and also, if you’re not having fun
The shop you run can sell weapons, equipment, potions, and sometimes more esoteric stuff. It attracts villagers and heroes both, and keeping them happy is the goal. Well, not the ultimate goal, but if your customers aren’t happy, they’re not likely to return and buy more.
You can make your store more attractive by decorating, and can eventually make your own items when you get certain recipes.

Before you can sell items, you need to buy them yourself from other shops, or you can join a hero on his/her travels in a dungeon and keep the loot that he/she finds (for a price). Then you have to place the item(s) in your shop, open your shop, and wait for customers to come by.
There is a reason why I listed all these actions separately: everything you do in this game takes up time. As you have a limited amount each day, you need to know in advance what you want to do that day.

This time limit forces the player to focus only on the goal of getting enough money to close the current chapter (with more money needed every following chapter). You don’t have time to take it easy: every part of the day must eventually lead to an increase of your cashflow.
Unfortunately, this creates rather frustrating situations. For example, you want some good-selling items, as the deadline for the current chapter is coming up, but cannot buy them from a dealer (not in stock, or too expensive). So you venture into a dungeon, slay enemies, and hope for good drops.

If you’re unlucky, you will only get bad or cheap items. So, you lost time for that day with little or no advantage. Now you need to get lucky in the store while selling the items and hope to haggle in such a way that you gain at least enough money to cover the costs for visiting the dungeon.
This counts more towards having a customer wanting a specific item: he places an order, and you need to get it before he returns. Guess what happens if the item simply won’t drop, or can’t be found somewhere else!

You cannot do anything about this “luck” factor, or plan ahead or around it. This gets increasingly annoying throughout the game, as you start to feel the game is deliberately taunting you. Speaking of annoyances…

Where is the mute button? Or rather, any button that works
Recette is an non-assertive girl, has no confidence in her abilities and doubts herself every time something bad happens. This translates to annoying remarks, especially during haggling. For example, a customer comes in and wants to sell you an item you don’t want. The only way to not buy the item is to bid a very low price, have the customer disagree, and leave. Recette will always say something along the lines of “I have no talent” or “Can I really do this?”.
It undermines the action and result of the player’s choice, and I got increasingly agitated with it.

When dungeneering (not a word, get with it), Recette cannot stop asking the hero if he’s all right after he gets hit. Every single time. EVERY. SINGLE. TIME. Why is this necessary? Why does she need to ask?

And boy, are you going to hear it often. The controls in the dungeon don't feel right*, and despite seeing your hero hit an enemy, more often than not you will miss the creature, and get hit by it instead. Some enemies have such erratic patterns that it is almost impossible to predict their actions. Some enemies shoot fireballs that track the hero wherever he is, and will almost always result in a hit. Enough hits, and the hero gets incapacitated, you lose the items you collected so far, and you lose the time without getting anything in return.

*: I got a lot of feedback on this, with only a few other people also having this problem. It might be my joypad or keyboard, but everywhere I play it, I don't feel in control.

Conclusion: an original idea, not executed very well
Recettear is a broken promise, like finding a shiny, round object on the beach the size of a high value coin, but discover it to be a worthless bottlecap.
Too bad Steam won’t take it back, and now it just sits in my game-list, uninstalled, a constant reminder that an original story combined with a favorite game genre doesn’t automatically make for a good game.

Gameplay 4/10
The original setting fails because of its poor execution. There is no depth to the gameplay, as the player is forced into actions by the game, instead of controlling the game himself by his own actions.

Graphics 8/10
A nice manga-look. Colorful, and easy on the eyes.

Sound 1/10
Boring and repetitive, and you want to shut off the voices after a few minutes in.
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Euclid Jul 17, 2013 @ 3:28am 
I had fun.
Kayeka Jul 17, 2013 @ 3:59am 
I quite liked it myself. It's not without weaknesses, but it's still a pretty darn fun game.
Abyssshy Jul 17, 2013 @ 7:30am 
i love this game cant get enough of it sure has its probs but all in all its fun (nice job changeing the topic name from before *wink*)
Shu-Woon Jul 18, 2013 @ 4:14pm 
It is a good game, and I like it, you have slightly over 19 hours of this game, why would you spend so many hours on a game you don't like? A game you want to say isn't good? That's illogical, the problem isn't the game it's you. It's okay if a game has cons and all but to simply say it isn't good when you spend so much time on it is weird.
Last edited by Shu-Woon; Jul 18, 2013 @ 4:14pm
Abyssshy Jul 19, 2013 @ 5:29am 
Originally posted by Shu-Woon:
It is a good game, and I like it, you have slightly over 19 hours of this game, why would you spend so many hours on a game you don't like? A game you want to say isn't good? That's illogical, the problem isn't the game it's you. It's okay if a game has cons and all but to simply say it isn't good when you spend so much time on it is weird.

totaly agree with you on that!
Frail Jul 20, 2013 @ 6:32pm 
Originally posted by Shu-Woon:
It is a good game, and I like it, you have slightly over 19 hours of this game, why would you spend so many hours on a game you don't like? A game you want to say isn't good? That's illogical, the problem isn't the game it's you. It's okay if a game has cons and all but to simply say it isn't good when you spend so much time on it is weird.
I don't agree with you on that... you'd rather have someone review a game with only an hour or two of playtime? The fact that he has given it a fair chance and didn't find enjoyment is actually a better thing in my opinion... I still plan to try this game out for myself sometime, but I would in no way discredit his post because he "spent too much time on the game".
Shu-Woon Jul 20, 2013 @ 7:03pm 
Originally posted by Frail:
Originally posted by Shu-Woon:
It is a good game, and I like it, you have slightly over 19 hours of this game, why would you spend so many hours on a game you don't like? A game you want to say isn't good? That's illogical, the problem isn't the game it's you. It's okay if a game has cons and all but to simply say it isn't good when you spend so much time on it is weird.
I don't agree with you on that... you'd rather have someone review a game with only an hour or two of playtime? The fact that he has given it a fair chance and didn't find enjoyment is actually a better thing in my opinion... I still plan to try this game out for myself sometime, but I would in no way discredit his post because he "spent too much time on the game".
No, there's people like him on all games. Someone who bashed the developers of garry's mod for creating a horrible game while he has 822 hours on it. and another person calling borderlands 2 horrible while he has over 400 hours on it. The OP is just another person with a different amount of hours, he still dedicated a good portion of his time on this game to show hatred towards it, he wants a REFUND on the game, if it's that bad he wouldn't need to spend so much time on it. Valve allows refunds, if he wanted a refund he wouldn't spend so much time on it. It's people like him who want games to be less dynamic, you bash developers for creating games that are too similar, then you bash them when they have a different approach to something. There's no way to satisfy the OP and others like him.

The problem with his post is he's complaining about stuff anyone could find out by reading the description of the game/watching the trailer, and then he grasps for straws on other things just to make his post longer and sound like he has constructive criticism.
Sounds like to me he insta-bought this game without knowing anything about it and wants to put the blame on the developers because it doesn't suit his tastes.
There are certain types of games I don't like, but I don't buy them just so I could insult the developers on the forums for making a game that doesn't fit what I want.
Last edited by Shu-Woon; Jul 20, 2013 @ 7:14pm
Frail Jul 20, 2013 @ 7:19pm 
Originally posted by Shu-Woon:
Originally posted by Frail:
I don't agree with you on that... you'd rather have someone review a game with only an hour or two of playtime? The fact that he has given it a fair chance and didn't find enjoyment is actually a better thing in my opinion... I still plan to try this game out for myself sometime, but I would in no way discredit his post because he "spent too much time on the game".
No, there's people like him on all games. Someone who bashed the developers of garry's mod for creating a horrible game while he has 822 hours on it. and another person calling borderlands 2 horrible while he has over 400 hours on it. The OP is just another person with a different amount of hours, he still dedicated a good portion of his time on this game to show hatred towards it, he wants a REFUND on the game, if it's that bad he wouldn't need to spend so much time on it. Valve allows refunds, if he wanted a refund he wouldn't spend so much time on it. It's people like him who want games to be less dynamic, you bash developers for creating games that are too similar, then you bash them when they have a different approach to something. There's no way to satisfy the OP and others like him.

The problem with his post is he's complaining about stuff anyone could find out by reading the description of the game/watching the trailer, and then he grasps for straws on other things just to make his post longer and sound like he has constructive criticism.
Sounds like to me he insta-bought this game without knowing anything about it and wants to put the blame on the developers because it doesn't suit his tastes.
Ok, believe what you want to believe... I am not saying I agree with his post in any way, just that saying someone spent too much time on it to give it a negative review is not the right way to react. Those other two examples you talked about are a bit ridiculous, but spending 19 hours on a game like this that apparently has lots more hours of gameplay available is not nearly comparable in any way.
Shu-Woon Jul 20, 2013 @ 7:25pm 
Originally posted by Frail:
Originally posted by Shu-Woon:
No, there's people like him on all games. Someone who bashed the developers of garry's mod for creating a horrible game while he has 822 hours on it. and another person calling borderlands 2 horrible while he has over 400 hours on it. The OP is just another person with a different amount of hours, he still dedicated a good portion of his time on this game to show hatred towards it, he wants a REFUND on the game, if it's that bad he wouldn't need to spend so much time on it. Valve allows refunds, if he wanted a refund he wouldn't spend so much time on it. It's people like him who want games to be less dynamic, you bash developers for creating games that are too similar, then you bash them when they have a different approach to something. There's no way to satisfy the OP and others like him.

The problem with his post is he's complaining about stuff anyone could find out by reading the description of the game/watching the trailer, and then he grasps for straws on other things just to make his post longer and sound like he has constructive criticism.
Sounds like to me he insta-bought this game without knowing anything about it and wants to put the blame on the developers because it doesn't suit his tastes.
Ok, believe what you want to believe... I am not saying I agree with his post in any way, just that saying someone spent too much time on it to give it a negative review is not the right way to react. Those other two examples you talked about are a bit ridiculous, but spending 19 hours on a game like this that apparently has lots more hours of gameplay available is not nearly comparable in any way.
I played the game, and the game doesn't change drastically the more you play it, hardly much changes and people usually notice that the first hours in. (Other than the story continuing and you having new recruits)
Also this game may have a lot of hours of play value, but those hours are really for completionists, which most people aren't. I got bored 15 hours in but I loved the game. most of my friends only played 7-10 hours but they still loved the game.
Protekt1 Jul 20, 2013 @ 7:50pm 
I think this review is pathetic. I give it a 2/10.

The game easily deserves a 8/10. Probably even higher. Metacritic has it right this time around.
Last edited by Protekt1; Jul 20, 2013 @ 7:58pm
DJ Big Breakfast Jul 20, 2013 @ 8:06pm 
Someone tell me, is this game heavy on the weeaboo? Are the voices all screechy and high-pitched? That will be the deciding factor for me, I think.
Shu-Woon Jul 20, 2013 @ 8:11pm 
Originally posted by T0R0ID:
Someone tell me, is this game heavy on the weeaboo? Are the voices all screechy and high-pitched? That will be the deciding factor for me, I think.
If you find anime voices to be weeaboo then yes.
DJ Big Breakfast Jul 20, 2013 @ 8:17pm 
Originally posted by Shu-Woon:
Originally posted by T0R0ID:
Someone tell me, is this game heavy on the weeaboo? Are the voices all screechy and high-pitched? That will be the deciding factor for me, I think.
If you find anime voices to be weeaboo then yes.
Well that's not totally helpful. A lot of Japanese entertainment I find to be incredibly childish, girly, and irritating. The other stuff I find very pleasing. Which camp does this fall into?
Last edited by DJ Big Breakfast; Jul 20, 2013 @ 8:17pm
Shu-Woon Jul 20, 2013 @ 8:28pm 
Originally posted by T0R0ID:
Originally posted by Shu-Woon:
If you find anime voices to be weeaboo then yes.
Well that's not totally helpful. A lot of Japanese entertainment I find to be incredibly childish, girly, and irritating. The other stuff I find very pleasing. Which camp does this fall into?
The problem is the voices don't bother me, but I could see someone calling this weeaboo. The main character is a minor so she has a childish-girly voice. When your character gets hit she says something, all I could think is if you just watch a gameplay vid.

The OP just complained about her voice, while at the same time I don't complain about it.
DJ Big Breakfast Jul 20, 2013 @ 8:35pm 
Originally posted by Shu-Woon:
The main character is a minor so she has a childish-girly voice.

Oh. I'm out.
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