[ SrV ]-WOA!-Mr.+$neaky+$anta Jul 22, 2013 @ 5:54am
WE NEED HARDER DIFFICULTIES!
Some people have no trouble at all on NMHC (espetialy hackers) i can use like 4 harps and nothing else on Deeper Well NMHC and win! the game needs to be more challenging!
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Kateweb Jul 22, 2013 @ 10:23am 
I think you are both nuts and genius for asking for this
Capybara15984 Jul 22, 2013 @ 2:17pm 
Ok, so try Tinkerer's Lab on NMHCMM survival. Get back to us if you can complete that with ease.
Black Mambo № 5. Jul 22, 2013 @ 5:57pm 
Implying if one can do Deeper Wells on NMHC with just 4 Harps they can clear all maps(including DLCs) with just 1 tower.

You want challenging maps/scenarios? Try NMHC without any armor / gear, plain naked!

Also just so you know, average stats needed to beat end game maps & challenges is roughly 3-3.5k, that which you can't achieve just by doing Deeper Wells on NMHC.
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Gamer5898 Jan 1 @ 3:17am 
3-3.5k Stats are not THAT challanging man ;)
challenging and maybe not even possible are 5k stats ;)
Avous Jan 1 @ 10:52am 
Originally posted by Gamer5898:
3-3.5k Stats are not THAT challanging man ;)
challenging and maybe not even possible are 5k stats ;)
5k is achievable with capping ult pieces. So is 6k. but 6k is sketchy. Everything would be to be capped or near. People definitely have 6,000 legitimately but there are going to be a lot more hackers than legitimate players with 6,000
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Softspokenman Jan 1 @ 5:05pm 
hacked but possible gear can get you to around 10000-11000 stats
SCE_Genesis985 Jan 1 @ 10:05pm 
last i counted the absolute max stat value that can exist in the game is a little over 10k, and that is with a Dual weild character equiped with 2 maxed Ulti++ weapons at 999, Ulti++ armor x4 at 1399 stats and a diamond pet. Lets do a theroetical stat accumulation count.

985 - Hero
1399 - Helmet
1399 - Chest
1399 - Gloves
1399 - Boots
800 - Diamond pet
999 - Weapon 1
999 - Weapon 2
and lets just say 3 accesory items with 300 stat each

All that together = 10279
Lich Kyanka Jan 8 @ 7:16pm 
No. Trendy needs to fix the loot gap first and foremost, as only 1% of the player base will ever see the DLC content as it stands right now.
Softspokenman Jan 8 @ 9:21pm 
Originally posted by SCE_Genesis985:
last i counted the absolute max stat value that can exist in the game is a little over 10k, and that is with a Dual weild character equiped with 2 maxed Ulti++ weapons at 999, Ulti++ armor x4 at 1399 stats and a diamond pet. Lets do a theroetical stat accumulation count.

985 - Hero
1399 - Helmet
1399 - Chest
1399 - Gloves
1399 - Boots
800 - Diamond pet
999 - Weapon 1
999 - Weapon 2
and lets just say 3 accesory items with 300 stat each

All that together = 10279
accesorys can go to 500 and ult++ pets can go to 999
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SCE_Genesis985 Jan 15 @ 5:14am 
ok, so thats:

985 - Hero
1399 - Helmet
1399 - Chest
1399 - Gloves
1399 - Boots
999 - Ulti++ pet
999 - Weapon 1
999 - Weapon 2
500 - Acc x3

=11978

Now granted as i said this is only possible with the Barbarian, EV and Jester. More actual builder based toons aside from the squire which has a 4th Accessory and the summoner which has 2 pets and 0 weapons the Absolute maximum stats capability changes quite a bit from the classes due to equipment combos.

Monk, huntress, Apprentice
985 - Hero
1399 - Helmet
1399 - Chest
1399 - Gloves
1399 - Boots
999 - Ulti++ pet
999 -.Weapon 1
500 - Acc x3

=10979

The loss of the 2nd weapons potential has deminished the max capacity by ~1000

Using whats posted above lets show what the other 2 gear combos (Squire and summoner) can do

Summoner = 10979

The same as a basic character because the weapon is replaced by a 2nd pet with the same stat potential

Squire/Countess =11479

Due to this class having a 4th Accesory it gains a 500 point increase in its stat potential
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ralphgod3 Jan 15 @ 5:43am 
Originally posted by SrV -Mr.-$neaky-$anta-D@Great:
Some people have no trouble at all on NMHC (espetialy hackers) i can use like 4 harps and nothing else on Deeper Well NMHC and win! the game needs to be more challenging!

i do agree it would need more difficulties but they would have to fix the equipment gap first
and the espetialy hackers part concerns me since why would u do that for hackers its like promoting hacking
Mainman Jan 15 @ 8:56am 
My squire has 5000+ tower attack. This can be achieved fairly easily. Here is the breakdown:
985 - Hero (lvl 100)
468 - Helmet (Mythical)
559 - Chest (Transcendent)
559 - Gloves (Transcendent)
559 - Boots (Transcendent)
600 - Kobold (from Insane HC TD Survival)
611 - Obsidian gladius (Transcendent, NM HC Akatiti)
200 - Acc x4 (Squire uses shields. All acc are from nm hc lab assault.)

= 5141

Other hero/tower stats are naturally not as good. I understand that double capping trans armour can be possible, but are very rare. Mine are single capping + one armour piece is mythical. No supreme or ultimate pieces are needed (except accessories) to achieve 5000+ stat.
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Mainman Jan 15 @ 9:06am 
Deeper well NM HC (assuming you are talking about campaign...) can be done without any towers legitimately :)
Softspokenman Jan 15 @ 2:51pm 
hackers have no problems winning 2 auras and every thing dies or they just make the crystal indestructible

what you are talking about is the easiest maps it the game if you want harder try Akatiti, Palantir, Talay, Karathiki ,City in The Cliffs ,Tinkers ,and Winter Wonderland on nmhcmm survival and make it to wave 35 then you can say we need harder levels
Last edited by Softspokenman; Jan 15 @ 2:57pm
people i dont play the game any more but my squire had 6500 in damage and i was using an Ult++ build pet that had +999 in tower damage and my other stats were really good too, and good point Softspokeman
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