Hollywood Cop Jun 13, 2013 @ 11:14am
The Truth About Trendy vs Hackers
The truth in the ongoing war of Trendy vs hackers, hacked gear and anything else modded within ranked online is that Trendy are afraid to make any major steps in DD to stop these issues.

My old thread was locked, but you can't lock a thread which will undoubtedly stop countless players from making the same mistake as me.

Some facts:
-Trendy will not try to eliminate the root problem of hacked gear, ie, eliminate the hackers, they want to beat around the problem and not actually solve it!

-They will not try to eliminate hackers because they don't have the resources or ability as developers to actually stop hacking programs.

-DD2 looks to eliminate hackers via storage of items and stats server-side, hiding the values that a hacking tool tries to find.

-A lot of you complain about pc hacked gear, you should see the state of xbox 360 and ps3, it's almost as bad as CoD:WaW!

Okay, the main point of this thread is a warning to other players, plain and simple and as been created because there are not enough warnings around about afk shops and the dangers of them.

If you buy an item in an afk shop check the stats and the upgrade levels to see if there are any strangely high numbers.

Check the quality of the gear, if it is mythical quality armour and has two tower stats with +600 points the gear is modded. Have a calculator from the official DD forums on hand to check any gear that you purchase and if it turns out you have bought modded/hacked gear sell it to the tavern keeper immediately, do not panic and hide it in your inventory, stay calm and sell it, thus destroying it.

Trendy cannot eliminate hackers, but they can eliminate anyone with hacked gear, whether the person knew about it or not.

Trendy will use you as a scapegoat to say "founds us a hacker guuuys!!!!!!@@@".

Trendy does not care who you are, look after yourself and seek help from other players if you need advice on what to do because Trendy is not on your side as a customer, Trendy are on Trendy's side.

And that's the bottomline cus Trendy fears hackers!
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Road Jun 13, 2013 @ 6:04pm 
mega wall of text!!!! this isnt new its been here sense the begining of the game it wont get fixed ever so dont worry about it.



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-d4rk0- Jun 13, 2013 @ 8:06pm 
aww somebody save this poor, innocent victim by this nasty, bad people who FALSELY accuse him!!!

I also read the other thread, your arrogant and annoying way to reply to others, and I find that rage, that whining, that crying somehow funny. Looks like you are 12 years old or just stupid like a goat...But keep going, cry some moar or just try the open mode. Nobody will bother you there.
Softspokenman Jun 13, 2013 @ 10:06pm 
open mode has VAC
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Hollywood Cop Jun 14, 2013 @ 8:47am 
"aww somebody save this poor, innocent victim by this nasty, bad people who FALSELY accuse him!!!

I also read the other thread, your arrogant and annoying way to reply to others, and I find that rage, that whining, that crying somehow funny. Looks like you are 12 years old or just stupid like a goat...But keep going, cry some moar or just try the open mode. Nobody will bother you there"

d4rk0 who is more arrogant, annoying and whiney than you?

You insult me, post useless posts and try to derail the conversation.

You can call me 12 but I call you a pathetic and rather unintelligent 25 year old virgin, GG d4rk0, who's next?
Hollywood Cop Jun 14, 2013 @ 8:49am 
D4rk0, my thread is about warning other people, not myself. I do not want to be and cannot be saved, but as with the other thread (look at the comments) some people were saved from buying hacked gear because of the warning.

I want to stop other people getting banned, I cannot be unbanned so just leave my ban out of this.
-d4rk0- Jun 14, 2013 @ 11:07am 
The people who read your crap don't find any warning that wasn't already been said or written in the past, just the whine and the tears of a pitiful cheater. You're just trying to hide YOUR mistake behind this drama but you are too stupid to do it in a civilized way. Go burn yourself and enjoy your ban hah.
Ajay Jun 14, 2013 @ 11:50am 
this game is bad in any way.
Your gear better then the other one = the other one is a noob an ahs to l2p
Your gear worse then other ones gear = he is a hacker.
Since iam able to play dungeon defenders without steam thx to the bundles i could try to hack without beeing afraid of getting VAC banned so easy hacking in this game is.
ofc the community lacks around in respektful talking darko says all about it.
Lounger, The Creator Jun 14, 2013 @ 1:39pm 
They say this game uses VAC.
VAC ought to detect something like CheatEngine in an instant.
In reality, it does not, or the game doesn't use VAC.
Hollywood Cop Jun 14, 2013 @ 2:26pm 
d4rko, I'm not hiding any mistakes? I got banned for having hack gear, simple. I didn't know it was hacked, but I got banned who cares.

If warning like this were as frequent as I make them on the actual game, people would be more careful! Silly d4rko isn't very bright so he doesn't realise that though gg pal.

Cheat engine can get around many ban systems very easily and I don't know how cosidering how common it is, but the game in general needs more protection.
Rex Draco Jun 14, 2013 @ 2:40pm 
To be fair, I just recently found out it is a problem. People keep giving me stuff because they are "nice" but now I am paranoid everything given to me is hacked because some of it turned out to be just that. Where can I get this calculator you speak of?
Hollywood Cop Jun 14, 2013 @ 3:13pm 
http://dungeondefenders2.com/forum/showthread.php?82041

This is the entire thread and item check.

Watch out for 'nice' players, my friend was given an item by a hacker and then reported a few seconds later by the same guy so that the hacker looked like a good, moderating player.
zeus Jun 14, 2013 @ 6:28pm 
^Samething happened to a kid on my friends list, a friend of his gave him a hacked weapon in a private run, he used the weapon (private run remember) and the day after he got the ban hammer on his account, coincidence much no?

I've seen quite alot of ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥s lik those around, in hopes to get other people banned. The reason why they do this, i have no ♥♥♥♥ing clue, but they are ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥s for sure.
-d4rk0- Jun 14, 2013 @ 7:34pm 
Originally posted by derajay:
this game is bad in any way.
Your gear better then the other one = the other one is a noob an ahs to l2p
Your gear worse then other ones gear = he is a hacker.
Since iam able to play dungeon defenders without steam thx to the bundles i could try to hack without beeing afraid of getting VAC banned so easy hacking in this game is.
ofc the community lacks around in respektful talking darko says all about it.

Thanks Sherlock. But before talking stuff that you have no idea about, you better take a look around and inform yourself. There was another discussion of this kid and someone posted the gear he was going around with: http://imgur.com/a/ejSoo#0
And talking about it like legit, is like saying that god exists. Maybe he is saying the truth, he really didn't know, that gear looks like the bad joke of someone evil enough for having some fun in giving it to the first newbie in his way and here we are. But I don't really care about his gear, this game is filled with hackers and all of them have that excuse when caught. And talking about respect, I replied like that only after reading his previous posts in the other thread, he deserves none.

And about you playing DD through Gamespy and hacking, sincerely, nobody cares. You are not playing in ranked mode like that, but it's just the open mode that you can find on steam too. You will never get banned for that, there is a workshop full of modded weapons, gear, pets and everything, and you can hack the hell out of them all. And even for the ranked, the vac is slow and bans only in desperate cases, looks like even stuff like cheat engine works on this game without problems and that is sad for an online game. So you don't have to be afraid playing through steam, it's harder getting vac banned than don't, and if you cheat you deserve it.


@The Cop: I don't even waste my time with you anymore after this. There are plenty of newbie guides around, about gear, maps, strategies and even stats, in 160 hours of game, you had all the time for google "dungeon defenders stats" or what you wanted to know and find out there exists a wiki about the game where you can find almost every info that you need in a really short time or check the forums and spend some minutes reading what people wrote there. All stuff that hasn't been written yesterday, but nooo, better cry on the forums, insult people and looking like the savior of all the newbies with "never told" facts and truth (of a game released 3 years ago) only for have the possibility to complain about your ban.
Padre Jun 14, 2013 @ 8:48pm 
We quit playing this last year - not because of hackers but because of the buttload of DLC coming out every other day - loved the game - then I got tired of spending my money on x4 accounts in order to have fun with my family on a game we once thought was pretty cool. I would be afraid to have to figure out what all DLC we would need now just to get caught up and current with everything now - is there a special all-in-one DLC thingy or are they still trying to milk money out of loyal fans. They should check out the guys behind Awesomenauts - they give out free content and only charge for skins which doesn't affect content and I gladly purchase to support what they are doing. /end whiney rant
MOSHHOPPER Jun 14, 2013 @ 10:26pm 
Originally posted by Lounger:
They say this game uses VAC.
VAC ought to detect something like CheatEngine in an instant.
In reality, it does not, or the game doesn't use VAC.
most hackers are not using cheat engine their is a program out there that they keep updating its signature so vac cant catch it
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