Just played a NM Magus survival for level 75 and up - out of the six who joined not one had or knew what a set of armor was. I tried to explain about a complete set - went over their heads and they wondered why they would need it. Of course the first thing that hit them they died and of course they had lagg. I tried to explain about the Zero - to negative resistance in their armor and trying to loot stuff doesn't really work well. That in a harder map they would most likely get kicked frequently still didnt sink in - So How do I explain so they can understand what I mean about a complete set of armor? And: I'm sorry to the group I had with me - I was in awe and total disbelief so I told you I was bored and left on wave 22. I usually play to the end of the session so you get your pets.