Offer prices? Wtf.

[coffeediction]

What's with those "offer" guys.
Are you really this dumb to not understand that THERE IS NO FIXED PRICES FOR ITEMS!
So "offering" any price has no point. Some people sell the same item for 10x more as you expect, some lesser.
So the price cannot be offered since it vary from host to host. Dumb shop hosters, turn your small brains on.

And whats about "I don't sell for Mana".

What with that all racism against new players here?
You've excluded yourself from those players, so noone can reach the state anymore. This is called community???

Made me laugh REALLY!!!!!!!!!!!

Or are they selling for Real Money? Well then I got a list with all SID's of you guys. Sending it to trendy, because YOU RUIN THE WHOLE GAME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

And this people call themself "A Pro"
no no no.. not a pro... you're just "An Idiot" nothing more.

I noticed that there are several people kicking players from SHOPS. DON'T OPEN A SHOP IF YOU KICK CUSTOMERS!!!!!!!!
Or is it maybe because people had about 100.000.000 Mana in their pocket? Yeah ofcourse!!!
YOU CANNOT HAVE MORE THEN 2B, so since you sell stuff for extra-prices like 9999 Billions of mana, there is no point to have 2B in the "Public" pocket.

But yeah sure, you're just dumb to understand it, and probably you don't know it, because you're hacking around and YOU CAN have more then 2B? Then is your SID is sent to trendy too.

This community is the worst i have ever seen. Or played with. I hope this games die's someday, because all those hackers are just too dumb to play "fair".

PS: I was friendly on this game until now, thanks to the com! I will behavior like an idiot now too.

[Nyllia]

I agree that people selling stuff for real money is VERY stupid and hackors should be banned but its a good game but u have a point :)

[Ajay]

rofl your post make me laugh alot xD, i tell you something kiddo ^^
make an offer? its easy you come to me and ask: hey what do you want for this pawn shoot ulti+ with 420 ups and 16k base dmg?
lets see, cubes? mk2? of i could take alot from this item but whats with the customer? can he buy with coal or items? or only with mana? so i say: offer pls. and the dude rages like you and tells me: its a shop you are the one who offers.
WRONG
you are in a shop, its like a bhasar you have to talk in this game, back to the pawn, dude says : 2 bil mana, now i know he wants to trade MANA, and yes a few ask to trade with stuff or with cubes, tahts why ppl say offer.
second the kicking its easy explaind:
there is a a player who begs for mana..Kick
people who are in with no gear on them no mana in there pocket and dont do wnything even when i ask what they want...kick
people who come in to my afk store to tell others they good better stuff..kick
people who come in my shop telling others they have stuff in their forge for trading so trade me pls...kick
looks for me these people arent customers.
third.
trading items.
Mana is the most common thing in this game, nobody needs it everyone has it, maybe you dont have it, when i begun this game 600 million was a wow effect i loved it, my first 1 bil token i was so proud of myself. Tz.. now i good like 110 Bil on my stash idont need any more mana so why shiould i sell them for mana? its easier to trade them.
and tahts the last point:
Dude you have to learn alot in this game, the worth of mana, the trades you have to do, go and report all trader for trendy nobody wants real money except the hacker in this game. You want a good ulti+ item? forget mana, why? cause nobody needs it, i can get 600mil mana in one run, in less then 20 minutes so dont rage her nobody wants your mana. you are one of the raging palyers who talk big words about trading but when someone says pay 3x the vendor price for good myth items you run like somebody set you on fire.
i tell you what you are, get it as insult or what ever its not my problem.
you are a new player getting frustratet because you are not running high, dont have great gear, you cannot solo Winter wonderland on NM HC, just be patience, you will get it but not with this raging ♥♥♥♥ here. This game is a hard farming grinding game, you cannot get trans items? so who the hell are you telling me how worth my trans is i sell to you? i could talk all day long about newbies who dont know how to talk with an exp. player who wants to help. But thats something else right?

[Ajay]

oh great, you are grimpreaper the guy i had to report and block because you were not stopping to spam my steam account with messages: stfu idiot buy better armor you suck or thinks like: make a privat game you noob ♥♥♥♥.
yeha you know what ? you where even mad when i talked normal and polite with you. You are not more then dirt and i hope you get banned from this game. Player like you make this community so bad, and i know taht you are the dude, i got you on my ingore i can see it.

[coffeediction]

first of all, i have enough mana, and probably more then you got, but thats not a point.
The thing is, that I'm not begging for mana, I'm not insulting anyone for their gear and stuff.
I joined a game, build / helped out, and they kick you, why? Because I helped with a build?
Well, a new player... no i'm not, not really, but i'm not a good player too, because of the stuff you said, i have to learn alot. Still after 350~ hours. But thats not the point of this discussion.

The problem is you get kicked even if you was friendly, like today. I bought 3 pieces from a guy for about 70b, he was happy at all, me either, both are friendly and such.. seems so. He kicked me after several minutes without any notice like "sorry dude <insert generic reason here>, have to kick you", whats the problem`? Sure there is one, people are as**oles. Not all, but most.

And why they kick even if they don't ask how much Coals or Mk2's or Cubes I got?
Everyone like Moses or Hackers they know what I have in my Pocket?
Well I don't care anyway. I figured the explaination for those players myself.

derajay... maybe i had a very very very bad day and called you someday ( i dont even know were it was ) with some insult words, but thats not my real personality.

I'm actually a friendly person, who wanted to help other players. But if you see how "kind" people are to you after you wasted your time and helped them out, it turns you to a "bad guy".
And I know it. I'm sorry for my bad day I had.
Don't get me wrong, i'm sure you are the good guy and kicked some people for a reason, and not just for fun.

Have fun

[Nyllia]

Well, the guy who created this ONLY GETS KICKED BECAUSE HE IS AN IDIOT. Thats for calling me a noob, you noob.

[Syrsly]

jim38clone の投稿を引用：

I agree that people selling stuff for real money is VERY stupid and hackors should be banned but its a good game but u have a point :)

There's no way to tell who hacked and who did not, because the game is very insecure and unbalanced. The trade system is not secure at all, and if you wanted to, you could easily get away with leveling all the characters to max level instantly, using infinite mana, upgrading stats to whatever you want, the game is not doing anything to stop you. For a game that's so focused on achievements and loot in multiplayer, there should be anti-cheat implementations.

My friends and I gave up trying to be the most powerful players, because everyone just hacked or bought powerful items. It seemed pointless at that point to continue playing competitively, even in Ranked mode. We instead just created new characters and tried to have a few more hours of fun before moving on.

[coffeediction]

^this

[Ninjaritus]

TapSkill の投稿を引用：

jim38clone の投稿を引用：

I agree that people selling stuff for real money is VERY stupid and hackors should be banned but its a good game but u have a point :)

There's no way to tell who hacked and who did not, because the game is very insecure and unbalanced. The trade system is not secure at all, and if you wanted to, you could easily get away with leveling all the characters to max level instantly, using infinite mana, upgrading stats to whatever you want, the game is not doing anything to stop you. For a game that's so focused on achievements and loot in multiplayer, there should be anti-cheat implementations.

My friends and I gave up trying to be the most powerful players, because everyone just hacked or bought powerful items. It seemed pointless at that point to continue playing competitively, even in Ranked mode. We instead just created new characters and tried to have a few more hours of fun before moving on.

I thought the players themselves were "tools" of trendy when it comes to security. You have to report what you think is suspicious or outright obvious in terms of cheating. It may not be as secure as some games but you have some of those secure games that are almost too secure.
Diablo is a prime example, I love the game but i have heard it complained, and I can agree to the most part, that the fact that they have online only game and game files cuts down on your ability to play. Sometimes you average computer that could have handled it if you didn't have to handle all of the data streaming to you via the interwebs and such you wouldn't be able to play hardcore out of fear of a lag spike and then death. Just an example. Or would you prefer a auction house system as theirs as well? the prices do change with me market obviously but high end players who have millions of dollars buy out all the lower end items, re-post them in the AH (auction house) / RMAH (real money AH) and this cause them to basically raise all of their prices to that of their choosing even raising the prices of everything around them, which may also include a higher end version of the same item that they have just found making it now worth (to what they deem) a scandalously high price.

DD may be less secure than other games but everyone has to do there part to deter / stop cheating and hacking in the ranked servers. Yes people do get away with it but that is the same as real life and other crimes. It's not right but I think the alternative would make DD become something entirely different.

I wont get into anymore than that but just one more tid bit, you think PC DD hacking is bad?
I owned Xbox version prior to and i can tell you it is like night and day (in pc's favor)

[coffeediction]

DD ist a kinda "Freep to play" game, because the price is very low, so trendy won't do any profit, so thats why maybe they don't care about security that much. I wonder that it has VAC. It filters the most cheaters out.

[Ninjaritus]

The games has 'Ranked' and 'Open'.... Pick one and abide by the rules or lack there of.
People from the beginning of time have decided to get away with what they can.

I don't think DD is really "free to play" its just that trendy isn't a large enough operation and therefore can't police the entire community and have to move on a case by case bases. It's like having ten policemen for the entire New York.

[coffeediction]

That could be the second view, maybe we both right on that discussion.
The reason is pretty abstract you know.
I'm a programmer myself ( or studying it now ), we got right into the game development process, I could seriously say that the benefit from a project is a huge milestone to get a very stable project. Maybe they just lack of employee's that should be paid for it ofcourse too.
But for a very small game development team is this still an awesome game. Much "Bigger" Teams has failed epicly on some games.

[Ninjaritus]

I agree with you on that Coffee. Much bigger companies have failed and part of me is hoping that Trendy keeps bringing things out for it and/ or brings out another game take takes on the same feel.

Good luck with your studies man ! lol
Part of all of these problems we have been discussing is that no one wants to fix them. Maybe when you get your degree/ finish learning you can be the one to take that on eh? ;)