Morgue Rabbit Jan 21, 2013 @ 2:25pm
Depressing...
I used to be able to find at least 1 insane + game that would let me come in and play and now a days it seems like it's just a kick fest... I get kicked before I even get a chance to say hello.. People should just start hosting private games and getting people in them or playing in private games so they don't show up on the list....

I'm talking about on ranked btw....
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Captain Barbarossa Jan 21, 2013 @ 2:26pm 
agreed
Morgue Rabbit Jan 21, 2013 @ 2:28pm 
I just spent like 20 minutes loading into games just to be insta kicked... Really why do people even bother playing online if they plan to kick everyone who joins it's multiplayer not solo.... The ones with more then 1 are usually a group of friends who should stick to private servers so that they don't show up...
gathnarius13 Jan 21, 2013 @ 4:42pm 
There could be several reasons for this.

Gear: Do you have the gear to be there? If you are a dps, are you running around with 50% or less resists? If you are on a builder, was the map already built?

Generally, if a DPS joins my game early on, I will let them stay regardless of gear. But as the later waves roll in, and they are undergeared, it's generally to my benefit to kick them as they will likely die trying to collect mana and become a hinderance to my map because of more mobs and them more or less being afk or dieing in the first half of the wave.

Building: I never use private server because I do like to play with people. With that said, I find the majority of people have no strategy to their build other then use as much DU as possible. For this reason, I will host a game and immediately click the "Hide match" button so that I can take the first 1-2 build phases to set the map up and then click "Show Match." Occasionally, I will forget to "Hide Match," and will kick someone that joins before they have a chance to start grabbing chests/building things (unless it's a barb/jester, I won't kick a dps).

Game Name: What have they titled the server? Does it say "DPS Only" and you pop in with a builder? does it say "Builders Needed" and you popped in with a DPS?

These things may seem trivial at a glance, but when I build a map for 35 waves, I'm planning to be there for a while and don't want people wasting time causing it to take longer.

Example: (Building) I start a Tavern Defense Survival NMHC Survival. I forget to hit the "Hide Match" button, and i'm beginning on wave 15. I'm on my 93 Summoner with 3100/5100/2000/1900 for stats summoning minions on the buff beams I already have down. In pops another summoner who is level 79 with 1200/1700/600/900 for stats. I say through voice chat not to summon anything and switch to a dps hero. About 15 seconds later "XXXXXX Summoned a Warrior Minion" pops up on my screen.

Example: (Gear) I'm doing Morrago NMHC Survival MM. I build the map and unlock the game (started map at wave 12 opened it at 14). Within 30 seconds I have 3 other people join the game. This significantly boosts the amount of monsters about to spawn, which I'm ok with as things will get Up'd faster. And I know my build will hold to wave 25 with nothing but buff beams at 3 stars. I'm on my Jester for map wide repairs, so I tell them all they have to do is upgrade. Two of them are in builder gear and none of them have a dps char/dps gear or a genie. But, I allow them to stay anyways. The monk and countess died on the first 3 waves (1 time each wave, which is an issue for me on hardcore) which means lack of upgrades going into the build. But, I am using my Genie so I can build mana pretty quickly and I manage to 3 star all the buff beams. When wave 20 hits, all 3 of them died in the first 100 monsters. Wave 21, again 2 of them die before 100 monsters have died. At this point, they should know that they don't belong here, but I have to kick them because they choose not to leave.

Example: (Game Name) I am about to do Boss Rush NMHC. My server title is "DPS Only - I build." The first 2 people to join the match tell me they don't have a DPS character yet, but are hoping to level one soon.

As you can see, the environment was created by the players. Evaluate "why" you might have been kicked. If it's nothing you did wrong, don't worry about it. Look for another one. But those 3 reasons are why I will kick someone.

Edit: Jester, I love the Jester class. The Kill % of monsters and map wide repair/heal is absolutely amazing. But outside of Wheel o' Fortuna, you are essentially useless to me. I will kick a Jester that has not taken the time to master WOF because their usefulness is subpar when compared to Hunter/Ranger and Barb without WOF.
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Morgue Rabbit Jan 21, 2013 @ 4:56pm 
easy-insane I do 153k dps and have around 35ish resists.... I get kicked for no reasons... I can handle insane just not nightmare as far as I'm aware... I gave up on the game though and uninstalled due to the kicking with no reason that seems to be running rampant.
Ōkami Jan 21, 2013 @ 5:09pm 
Originally posted by Morgue Rabbit:
easy-insane I do 153k dps and have around 35ish resists.... I get kicked for no reasons... I can handle insane just not nightmare as far as I'm aware... I gave up on the game though and uninstalled due to the kicking with no reason that seems to be running rampant.

Dude, I'm sorry you decided to quit because of this but you are right, it happens, all too often, and the people who do it are reeeeeally creepy.
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keez Jan 21, 2013 @ 5:09pm 
Why dont you host your own game, and open it to public?
Morgue Rabbit Jan 21, 2013 @ 5:12pm 
Originally posted by keez:
Why dont you host your own game, and open it to public?
I tried to but no one would join I would get bored of waiting after 30 minutes and I would just quit...
Ōkami Jan 21, 2013 @ 5:16pm 
Originally posted by Morgue Rabbit:
Originally posted by keez:
Why dont you host your own game, and open it to public?
I tried to but no one would join I would get bored of waiting after 30 minutes and I would just quit...

Well, the whole point of soloing is not having to wait on others, and obviously, to aovid this kind of crap coming from raging internerds.

If you ever decide to have another go and reinstall, add me, I can help you set your game up so you can solo your games.
Morgue Rabbit Jan 21, 2013 @ 5:19pm 
I don't play to solo the games... It's just to boring I know how to solo it just puts me to sleep... I enjoy playing with others and when others arnt willing to play I just go play something else where I can play with others.
Ōkami Jan 21, 2013 @ 5:22pm 
Originally posted by Morgue Rabbit:
I don't play to solo the games... It's just to boring I know how to solo it just puts me to sleep... I enjoy playing with others and when others arnt willing to play I just go play something else where I can play with others.


Fair enough, you will hardly find any team players on this game if you don't host your own games.

It's like hosting a party with the purpose of meeting people, or something like that.

Anyway, good luck on your future endeavors.
Morgue Rabbit Jan 21, 2013 @ 5:26pm 
My 300ish hours were enough to cover the cost so I'm not bitter with the game I'm sure I'll try playing again in the future.... Atm I'm trying to find games I don't get worked up playing because I'm being limited on what I can play because of a life threatning heart problem... The cardiologist told me I can't play anything that causes me to get worked up... This game never did and that's one of the main reasons I was trying to come play it again... Just no friends are playing it anymore and all of the custom game hosts insta kick without even saying anything I decided to just give up.....


I'm sure I'll end up giving it another go in a few days.... The boredom of being limited on what you can play sucks.
keez Jan 21, 2013 @ 8:51pm 
I must say, my experience with people has been generally good, but as I said, I hosted my parties. I found 1 good player after a night or 2 of solo. My group grew from there. We have about 7 or 8 regular players who share the workload of both building and buffing. Liberal trading/gifts within our group as a perk. I'm sorry you've not found this here...
Unbekannter Jan 21, 2013 @ 9:14pm 
This doesn't happen to me all that often, and I can easily find games I won't be kicked on, but yeh, when it does, especially out of spite, it can be annoying. If people don't want you in their game, so what? Can't always have it your way. Although yeh, I agree some of these people really need to use a private game. Sometimes I kick people, But I'll explain why first, most of the time "Sorry, place reserved." for example, or "Too high a level" or whatever else might be the reason. At the end of the day, it's up to the host, and if you don't like it, simply host your own game.

I think what would help is more of a description in a game name, so people can add additional rules or whatever. There's simply not enough space in the server name to supply enough info, and this applies to shops, too.

If I get kicked because I'm too high a level, sure, fine, I get that, fine by me... would be nice to say WHY first, but eh.. I'm an adult, I'll deal with it. If someone is an ♥♥♥, or ignores simple "No building/looting" rules, then fine, it's cool, kick is understandable. There are reasons. Sometimes you might loot like mad and not understand about the looting so end up getting kicked.. which used to happen to me in my "noobish" days, but I understand it now.

At the end of the day, it's just a game. Plenty of games, and plenty of people. I've met loads of AWESOME people on this game, so I'm not complaining.

As for Morgue Rabbit, assuming any of that is actually true, then WOW... unlucky. :( Sad to read, but I hope you get better somehow.

Best of luck to you!

I think also sometimes people take being kicked too much to heart (sorry for the bad pun) "kick" can be quite an excessive word when it's just.. removing them from the game. A lot of people taking being kicked so personally. |: Well, at the core of it all (sorry, another pun) I'm just thankful for the nice people and/or indeed the other adults.
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Morgue Rabbit Jan 21, 2013 @ 10:26pm 
Yea I'm telling the truth on that I have aortic stenosis paired with a bicuspid heart murmur... I originally only had the bicuspid heart murmur which the doctors were studying me from the ages of 2-21... At 21 they said I started forming aortic stenosis and would have to have surgery to fix or replace the valve sooner or later... They cold turkey dropped me and didn't refer me to another cardiologist..... I'm 26 now and I'm having chest pains/weakness/faintness and all of those are listed as severe symptoms that the aortic stenosis has gotten worse... The only severe symptom I hadn't exibited yet is sudden death and honestly don't want to lol.

Anyway I think I got help in time because I'm not feeling as if I'm going to die from the pains and stuff just really weak all of the time... The pain is like the residual pain after you get punched in the chest just deeper below the rib cage... It's a odd feeling honestly.
Unbekannter Jan 22, 2013 @ 1:15am 
:o ... :(
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