Xq.Nexus Jan 16, 2013 @ 12:41pm
Question about FARMING item or mana
If i do Hardcore mode or Survival mode when i go for farming will it give me more myth?
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McData Jan 16, 2013 @ 12:49pm 
Hardcore and (!) Survival and (!) Mix Mode. The more the better ...
Ajay Jan 18, 2013 @ 5:21am 
you will get more items with more players. more creeps spwan with another pal or with 4 guys and the best result for myths is just a nm map survival no need for ahrdcore or mixmode
Ōkami Jan 18, 2013 @ 5:46am 
Originally posted by derajay:
you will get more items with more players. more creeps spwan with another pal or with 4 guys and the best result for myths is just a nm map survival no need for ahrdcore or mixmode

Uhmmm....nope, you are quite mistaken, HC adds an addtional 25% and MM 5%.

For the most part MM is not worth the hassle, unless you have pretty high level and then it's the way to go to get the best loot there is.
Unbekannter Jan 18, 2013 @ 1:26pm 
I find the more players in the game means more enemies and therefore more loot, but as for quality I'm not sure. It's hard to get FACTS with this game, because there's so much uncertainty. xD I do recommend survival, though, as those later waves can produce a methric ♥♥♥♥ton of mythics. My favorite is Magus, survival, NMHC, which I now finally find easy, and I make a few hundred mil per run, not including the loot I pick up and sell on. There are other good levels of course, but that is just my favorite atm. [: Good luck.
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Ōkami Jan 18, 2013 @ 4:38pm 
Fell free to check my FACTS against the DDDK.

Originally posted by Herr. Teufel Mann:
I find the more players in the game means more enemies and therefore more loot, but as for quality I'm not sure. It's hard to get FACTS with this game, because there's so much uncertainty. xD I do recommend survival, though, as those later waves can produce a methric ♥♥♥♥ton of mythics. My favorite is Magus, survival, NMHC, which I now finally find easy, and I make a few hundred mil per run, not including the loot I pick up and sell on. There are other good levels of course, but that is just my favorite atm. [: Good luck. [/quote]

Good luck. [/quote]

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McData Jan 19, 2013 @ 3:36am 
Originally posted by Chavo:
Fell free to check my FACTS [...]


I did !

You said MM adds 5%. 5% of what (mana, items, value of dropped items, ect ?) :-)

I did two runs. The Throne Room (my most favoured survival map). Same build, update and maintainance by the same char. NMHC vs. NMHCMM starting with the first wave, up to wave 18. Chests were always opened, items were not picked up but bought by the bank. At wave 18 chests were opened, the wave started and after collecting of the mana the game stopped.

To do it stastistically sound I should do it at least three or even five times. But I see no sense in that. And I should do more waves but that is risky as DD tends to freeze in later waves. (7 out of 10 survival game where I reach wave 20 are terminated not by the mop or success but by this freezing)

In regard of the games nothing much happened in the two runs. The char was not killed, the crystals stayed at full health and defences were not destroyed.

The results are rather disappointing. HC gave 331.381.126 mana, 5.760.246 points, and took 1h 25 min. The results for HCMM were 338.509.680, 5.830.446, and 1h 30 min, respectively. So, even items were up to that point in MM not more valuable.

Ōkami Jan 19, 2013 @ 4:41am 
Originally posted by McData:
Originally posted by Chavo:
Fell free to check my FACTS [...]


I did !

You said MM adds 5%. 5% of what (mana, items, value of dropped items, ect ?) :-)

I did two runs. The Throne Room (my most favoured survival map). Same build, update and maintainance by the same char. NMHC vs. NMHCMM starting with the first wave, up to wave 18. Chests were always opened, items were not picked up but bought by the bank. At wave 18 chests were opened, the wave started and after collecting of the mana the game stopped.

To do it stastistically sound I should do it at least three or even five times. But I see no sense in that. And I should do more waves but that is risky as DD tends to freeze in later waves. (7 out of 10 survival game where I reach wave 20 are terminated not by the mop or success but by this freezing)

In regard of the games nothing much happened in the two runs. The char was not killed, the crystals stayed at full health and defences were not destroyed.

The results are rather disappointing. HC gave 331.381.126 mana, 5.760.246 points, and took 1h 25 min. The results for HCMM were 338.509.680, 5.830.446, and 1h 30 min, respectively. So, even items were up to that point in MM not more valuable.

Items McData, chance to get better items, he mentioned loot and I replied with the percentages. It sounds you are not doing it properly, you should be getting at least 600m a run in a map like Misty, you should hit an amount close to 600m in Throne. If you farm with a summoner you will see the amount of mana earned raise considerably, but you are quite right, for mana, MM doesn't do much, HC will suffice.

In fact, I used to do in MM only the maps I could afk, 5% doesn't add much and the increase in difficulty is great, but when you hit the jackpot, believe me, it's very much worth the hassle.
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McData Jan 19, 2013 @ 7:01am 
Well, the title of the threat mentioned mana and items, so I wasn't sure that you really talked about items. And anyway, I always had reasoned that MM raises the number of items and raises the (small) probability to find seldom items. Therefore the amount of mana (which is my primary interest) should also rise. I just wanted to know.

600m sound reasonable, but did you realize that I stopped at level 18 ?
Ōkami Jan 19, 2013 @ 7:06am 
Originally posted by McData:
Well, the title of the threat mentioned mana and items, so I wasn't sure that you really talked about items. And anyway, I always had reasoned that MM raises the number of items and raises the (small) probability to find seldom items. Therefore the amount of mana (which is my primary interest) should also rise. I just wanted to know.

600m sound reasonable, but did you realize that I stopped at level 18 ?

HA!! I missed that bit, then I think it was more than fine, you might wan to start from either wave 13, if you want the pet, or wave 18-22 if you are looking for loot, for mana, yeah, a full run is the best.

A full run in Misty, making tokens and all, was more or less around 900m

At leas that's how I remember doing it.

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