TheCurmudgeons Apr 10, 2013 @ 8:13pm
Where can you find the gear
It seems I'm in limbo - Can't get better armour so can't get further ahead - kind of a catch 22. Made it through Sky City NM HC level 30 - nothing usable in armour - and a pet that was worth 53 mana oh boy. Sat in on a Winter wonderland NMHC - still nothing but beginner Trans. So where do these awesome builders get the gear? - When i search the trendy store - there is nothing higher than poor Trans armour.
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Nitrous_Dash Apr 11, 2013 @ 1:10am 
kings game nmhcmm
TheCurmudgeons Apr 11, 2013 @ 5:08am 
If you mean survival - well that doesn't work well. Weapons I have already. Thank you though.
Nitrous_Dash Apr 11, 2013 @ 6:44am 
Well most of the people with 4+ stats get their armor from get their armour from kings game survival. turning mixmode on buffs the strength of the loot by 5%. If you dont want survival you can try kings game campaign or bossrush on nmhc. Sometimes you can get some nice trans armour from the rewards.
TheCurmudgeons Apr 11, 2013 @ 8:41am 
Well - i cant get to 4 stats - only 2,-3 for most of my builders. I keep trying DD planner builds for good maps but die before reaching any drops simply not strong enough. Hence, the reason for the question in the first place. Thanks again - could just be time to quit.- dont want to buy hacked items and get banned.
Nitrous_Dash Apr 11, 2013 @ 10:21am 
well with 2-3k stats you can do aquanos on mixmode because you CAN find some really nice one. If you cant do aquanos then you can try morrago desert on mixmode. I heard those are even better and easier
Cheddington Apr 11, 2013 @ 10:23am 
trans armour is all you really need to complete most if not all content in this game, good supreme, ultimate armour etc is not needed. 4k stats is bordering overkill (unless you want to do survival on the newer maps), 5k+ is overkill.

hell some of my characters are still wearing myth!, supreme + armour is pretty rare and you need to spend a bit of time farming high end maps. king's game is a good place to find supreme and above armour, but it is not guarenteed you will need to play it a few times before ultimate armour and such begin to show up.

having only summoners out will make all drops armour only.

a few quicker ways to increase your stats:

farm a kobald (do this on insane survival tavern defence and there is a small chance to get a perfect kobald (600 in all tower stats))

farm akatiti jungle on nmhc for arguably the strongest dps and tower weapons for the monk, mage and the squire. also chances to obtain supreme accessories which can also help increase your stats), there is a decent chance that the rewards upon completion are high end pets or even high end armour peices. (i personally have recieved ultimate armour peices from completing this on nmhc)

farm winter wonderland/temple of love (insane/nm) for accessories.

level up your characters (tavern defence nmhc campaign or pure strat).

although 5k+ stats are achievable you would have to commit a great deal of time to achieve it without buying armour. a great deal of people with these types of stats most likely bought them off others (and im sure 90% of those armour pieces have hacking origins (regardless of whether the stats are legit or not))
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MOSHHOPPER Apr 11, 2013 @ 12:57pm 
99.9% sets you see with 5000+ are hacked and you will never find them
also when you running survival you have to use 4 summoners so only armor drops
Last edited by MOSHHOPPER; Apr 11, 2013 @ 12:58pm
Black Mambo № 5 Apr 11, 2013 @ 4:07pm 
Originally posted by MOSHHOPPER:
99.9% sets you see with 5000+ are hacked and you will never find them
also when you running survival you have to use 4 summoners so only armor drops

Truth.
I have over 1000 hours of experience in DD over almost one and a half year.
And trust me it's pretty ridiculous the way people are floating around with full utli, ulti+ & ulti++ sets with barely 300 hours played.

I always suggest people to try SkyCity if King'sGame isn't yielding good rewards for them. It's a pretty decent map. I've only managed to farm maybe 24-25 ulti/ulti+ armor pieces so far(no ulti++), of which I personally use only 13. And 18 of those 24-25 pieces were from Sky City. Lots of ulti++ weapons though.
Also, if you get in a ranger/huntress you get a chance to find probably the best ranger/huntress weapon in the game, period = Sonoblasters. Which go for a lot in forums if you manage to get a good sup/ulti tower Sonoblaster for the sole reason that there's no obsidian weapons for huntress so it's relatively difficult to find a great tower wep of that class. And it's a great DPS wep, pretty much on par with E-Cannons and way way way easy to farm making it the better of the 2. King's Game yielding better drops is pure myth.

I think one or 2 runs on SkyCity won't fetch you anything usable regardless whichever wave you reach. So you might want to keep trying it also open ALL the chests at the beginning of each wave. Most ulti drops I've had were from chests. Building at mid gives a decent chance to look at all the items that have dropped easily as compared to building on south.
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The Turtle Wrangler Apr 11, 2013 @ 4:09pm 
Anything over 4k stats is nearly impossible without haking. take it from a modder. Its a lot easier to farm gear and try around 3k stats and you can pass any level with a proper tower set up. 4k just makes it easier and 5k is just stupidly overpowered. In my personal opinion farming for that high of gear is useless. I find this game the most fun running through campaign with friends on fresh toons. Otherwise there will always be someone better. It will not be worth your time in the end. Especialy that dd2 is going into beta soon most of us will be doing that. When that releases then everything in dd will be kind of forgoten.
Kutsuu Mugen Apr 11, 2013 @ 6:37pm 
Simple KG/SC NMHCMM I'd say for top end gear like Sup/Ult if your lucky, with a group of course and not solo.
Tbh spending hours/days or even weeks to farm Sup/Ult gear for 5k+ stats is a huge waste of time with utterly low drop rates. I bought all my Trans and got around 3.5k - 4.5k in stats and I'm happy with that, though If i could get Sup/Ult that be great, but as I stated above it's pointless and only a no-lifer would bother to do so.

I quit some time back when Trans first came out. It was all PP only or tons of mana if your lucky to find a seller and after a year I came back sold my Cube for 220b and bought me some decent Trans and I'm happy with it. Slowly made more Trans and few bils of mana and got bored again.

That's my opinion on this game sorry to say. I'm not trying to put you off, I do think this game is great fun but it has it's limits and those limits seem way to time consuing and an utter waste to try and get that very top end gear.
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Black Mambo № 5 Apr 11, 2013 @ 7:12pm 
Originally posted by Jman19922:
Anything over 4k stats is nearly impossible without haking. take it from a modder.
Wrong, just so wrong...
I have all my builders at an average of 4.5k without hacking or cheating.
Could be possible that a few supreme pieces I bought couple of months ago for my cubes might have been slightly fiddled with, but other than that you are horribly wrong.
Seeing as you have only played the game for a mere 150 hours I can say that you lack enough experience to make such a comment.
But trust me getting your first early myths is the toughest part, after that it's just grinding for upgrades.
Nitrous_Dash Apr 11, 2013 @ 8:20pm 
Originally posted by Black Mambo № 5.:
Originally posted by MOSHHOPPER:
99.9% sets you see with 5000+ are hacked and you will never find them
On trendy forum I see a bunch of them on the item check thread and the trading page.
Any hacked items will be detected and the guy who sells/auctions those will be banned or questioned.
Last edited by Nitrous_Dash; Apr 11, 2013 @ 8:21pm
Softspokenman Apr 11, 2013 @ 10:31pm 
the problem with that is that the paypal shops make enough money to buy another copy of dd and still make a good profit so banned dose nothing they just open another account

the item check thread only says if an item is possible or not
not if it is hacked allot of the stuff on there is obviously hacked but still possible so nothing is done hackers jest get smarter and learn what is and isn't possible

people only seem to care if an item will get them banned not if it is hacked
Last edited by Softspokenman; Apr 11, 2013 @ 10:39pm
MIL Apr 12, 2013 @ 12:07am 
Originally posted by Jman19922:
Anything over 4k stats is nearly impossible without haking. take it from a modder.

Err. wow. Have you ever done more than 5 Survival runs for armor exclusively? Have you EVER farmed Akatiti with 3 afks for Crazy good tower weapons?
Have you ever even bothered farming coal for a diamond?
it is rather straight forward how to break the 5k tower dmg mark. Hell I'm at 6k with my Series EV, with all self farmed stuff.
also, leveling builders to 100 is a huge boost, as the total hero points tops at 985.

That said, I completely agree with you, everything in this game can be beaten with good trans sets and around 4k stats.
Softspokenman Apr 12, 2013 @ 2:33am 
what most people fail to realize is that do to stat fall off the actual difference in stats from 3000-7000 in game isn't that much

take a tower ev for example

tower ev A 634 heath 983 attack 725 range 936 rate = 175925 dps 19346 heath 52.07 range 11350 damage .03 rate

tower ev B 3184 health 4107 attack 1733 range 3049 rate =188960 dps 19346 health 52.61 range 12191 damage .03 rate

same tower was used in both test
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