Treetop69 Oct 31, 2013 @ 3:12pm
Best Tower Defense gam ever made? Yes.
No other TD game overs the raw variety in maps, modes, methods of defending, and types of enemies.

best td game for pc ever
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[Wild] Vortex Oct 31, 2013 @ 3:49pm 
yeak i guess but im pretty sure some stuff is better
[Wild] Vortex Oct 31, 2013 @ 3:50pm 
yeah*
SimonPetrikov Oct 31, 2013 @ 5:27pm 
Wrong.Sanctum is,at least in my opnion.Due to the weapons,towers,and mix of FPS action,it is a better game than Dungeon Defenders.But it really depends on what you like.
Treetop69 Nov 1, 2013 @ 1:34am 
the jester can give you the exact same gameplay as sanctum, i actually own both sanctum and sanctum 2. There is no variety in gameplay, there is only the default TD game.

Enemy variety is ok but there is nothing too creative, like the Sharken for example. or the djinn.

build mage and squire towers and do combat with jester, after some default towers are up lay jesters down and fps it.

or do the same but rts it with a summoner

or do neither and go for a towerless map with monk ensare and hunter traps

or do nothing and go full barbarian, and fight like a gladiator

or do pvp

then there is always the challanges for certain maps as well as the extra assault the crystal modes where you are the enemy.

Then there is the RPG/Gearing element to the game, as well as different ways to build. I actually have 2 different mages, one that is nothing but range and dmg for towers, i use hi for deadly strikers to take down wyverns, and ogres, the other has atk speed and dmg for once they get closer and get fireballed.

At most with sanctum you can choose your gun and for sanctum 2, one of two chars. You may not swap and they share a tower pool.

both sanctums combined reach only 10% of the content of DD
$cno0B! Nov 1, 2013 @ 8:14am 
Originally posted by Treetop69:
the jester can give you the exact same gameplay as sanctum, i actually own both sanctum and sanctum 2. There is no variety in gameplay, there is only the default TD game.

Enemy variety is ok but there is nothing too creative, like the Sharken for example. or the djinn.

build mage and squire towers and do combat with jester, after some default towers are up lay jesters down and fps it.

or do the same but rts it with a summoner

or do neither and go for a towerless map with monk ensare and hunter traps

or do nothing and go full barbarian, and fight like a gladiator

or do pvp

then there is always the challanges for certain maps as well as the extra assault the crystal modes where you are the enemy.

Then there is the RPG/Gearing element to the game, as well as different ways to build. I actually have 2 different mages, one that is nothing but range and dmg for towers, i use hi for deadly strikers to take down wyverns, and ogres, the other has atk speed and dmg for once they get closer and get fireballed.

At most with sanctum you can choose your gun and for sanctum 2, one of two chars. You may not swap and they share a tower pool.

both sanctums combined reach only 10% of the content of DD

except sanctum is more balanced and not grindy at all.
Treetop69 Nov 1, 2013 @ 4:09pm 
grindy i can grant you to a small degree. but i would hardly call it balanced. there are some enemies that are just flat out immune to tower damage because no tower targes their weak spot (the nutsack head guys for example)

you are also really limited on towers and player intervention is mandatory on all waves. Traditional TD games do not even allow you to have an avatar, you simply have to fight with towers.

DD rewards this gameplay with multipliers at the end of a round, but allows you to intervene if needed. sanctum restrict you into being forced to FPS it.
SimonPetrikov Nov 1, 2013 @ 6:42pm 
Like I said,depends on what you like.
Treetop69 Nov 1, 2013 @ 6:53pm 
i continue to disagree and assert dungeon defenders is the best. may the readers decide based upon arguments proffered
SimonPetrikov Nov 2, 2013 @ 7:03am 
I'm going to repeat myself.Like I said,DEPENDS on what YOU like.
LastSide Nov 2, 2013 @ 12:56pm 
Originally posted by Treetop69:
grindy i can grant you to a small degree. but i would hardly call it balanced. there are some enemies that are just flat out immune to tower damage because no tower targes their weak spot (the nutsack head guys for example)

you are also really limited on towers and player intervention is mandatory on all waves. Traditional TD games do not even allow you to have an avatar, you simply have to fight with towers.

DD rewards this gameplay with multipliers at the end of a round, but allows you to intervene if needed. sanctum restrict you into being forced to FPS it.

I have both Sanctums and on Sanctum 2 it can get quite irritating when the towers becomes usless and only the Shotgun and Sniper can deal with the problem since both deals huge damage against the one with the weakness on the butt and the bubblehead.

Dont get me started on the last map of the original campaign. Got quite frustrated and tire... went to youtube to watch the ending. Sanctum 2 does somethings right but the elitism on tower defense is on 11 and they have to tone it down to at least 8 or make it a choice.
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Tim Nov 3, 2013 @ 9:35am 
nope, this is crap because of impossible missions and cheaters with cheated weapons.
simple :D
Softspokenman Nov 3, 2013 @ 8:05pm 
OP how many have you played ?
Treetop69 Nov 3, 2013 @ 9:49pm 
cheaters are taken care of with the ranked trendy net and i have not seen any in any of my games.

impossible missions is strat, spec, or gear


as for how many i have played, lets see. off the top of my head the south park one on xbox arcade, orcs must die 1 and 2, plants vs zombies, sanctum 1 and 2, the various TD games for Warcraft 3, Starcraft 2, Starcraft, also played the 'tower assult' called battlefiled earth or something

im sure im forgetting some. if its a TD game i have likely played it. my 1st ever was the warcraft 3 one.

the final wave was 8 different lanes of Archimonde with 50mil hp walking, immune to all elemental dmg types except chaos, which came from a tower you couldnt really afford until that final wave. the only way to really do it was use the no dmg lightning towers to stunlock them while you sell the rest for chaos towers, slowly chunking them down across all lanes.
Softspokenman Nov 4, 2013 @ 12:26am 
lol no wonder you think this is the best
trendy has abandoned this game in search of more money in dd 2 nightmare was left unbalanced and the rng that trendy admits is broken was left unfixed plus cheaters and unfair bans run ramped hardly a greatest ever formula but I will say through insane this is a top 10

they had a great game that they abandoned way to soon on pc
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Zapp Brannigan Nov 6, 2013 @ 4:19am 
Originally posted by Softspokenman:
lol no wonder you think this is the best
trendy has abandoned this game in search of more money in dd 2 nightmare was left unbalanced and the rng that trendy admits is broken was left unfixed plus cheaters and unfair bans run ramped hardly a greatest ever formula but I will say through insane this is a top 10

they had a great game that they abandoned way to soon on pc
Abandoned on pc? compared to the console version the pc version is a completley different game with all the content! What is wrong with them stopping content production for a game 2 years into it's life to pursue a sequel to a great game
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