Syn Jan 4 @ 4:07pm
PSA: Lab Assault drops are not real gear
LA is great for accessories and quantity, but please for the love of the shards, stop putting this junk armor in your shops and asking 200+ mil for it. Real gear be farmed on survival, Yo. Not the possibly most exploitable map ever.
Last edited by Syn; Jan 4 @ 4:08pm
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Tydo Jan 5 @ 3:54am 
Sideeffect of the free market, nothing stopping you from asking too much, even for crap.

Anyway, agree, the Lab Assault reward armor is usually *bad* compared to the "real" stuff farmed from survival runs. It may seem nice compared to the myths from e.g. Magus Quarter (which is known to be really low end) but it is still poop 90+% of the time.

Lowend myths should never be priced at more than 30-50M (depends*), entrylevel should be in the 1-15M range. Have to take potential customers wallet into consideration... if bad myths are a upgrade they mostly dont have the earning potential to pay for good stuff.

Besides, if you ask 200M for bad myths, and the pricelimit is 600, you are leaving too little room for actual valuable stuff to be priced reasonably. Add rarity to the good stuff and damn, you just broke the demand:supply because the price wont fit in the 600M limit... and then you end up forumtrading on the DD forum for (hacked) coal and (hacked) cubes in exchange for (hacked) gear.
TopAce Jan 5 @ 10:03pm 
Preach it I hate the crap. The armor has negative 200 stats everything yet they are sellig for 600-800 mil....
Der Hexer Jan 6 @ 12:53am 
Originally posted by TopAce:
Preach it I hate the crap. The armor has negative 200 stats everything yet they are sellig for 600-800 mil....
800 mil.? o.O ...how they're doing that?
Softspokenman Jan 6 @ 1:15am 
the thing is that when you can do nmhc survival runs on some maps you will make 100 million mana a wave and several billion mana a run so mana is almost worthless
Der Hexer Jan 6 @ 1:25am 
if you don't have all your gear maxed on each char, you still need mana to upgrade your gear.
Sonic the zombie Jan 6 @ 1:47am 
Let them do this, the real shops will only sell more.

personally i give stuff away if a person is genuine and nice, and i loot my gear or have ahd other ppl give me gear for free, i guess it depends on the ppl
Softspokenman Jan 6 @ 9:57am 
Originally posted by Der Hexer:
if you don't have all your gear maxed on each char, you still need mana to upgrade your gear.

you can only hold 600 million mana after that you have to invest in some thing so that leaves close to 1-1.6 billion mana a run to up things
good real gear is very hard to get mana is not
no one is going to sell real gear for mana they will want coal,cubes, and such if they will even sell it at all remember they also have 5 to 20 heroes to out fit what you will see is heavily flawed gear
95% of good gear you see for sale is hacked

Syn Jan 6 @ 8:34pm 
Don't get me started on coal. What ever happened to the barter system.
Tydo Jan 7 @ 6:18am 
Ah yes, coal... still pondering whether i should bother reporting a guy a few nights ago, who said he used duped coal to make the 10 diamond he claimed to have (saw at most 5 of them the builders he used). Sure he claimed he "knew someone" who duped them for him but same thing in the end.
Syn Jan 7 @ 6:48am 
Why in the hell is that something you're PONDERING? What's there to decide? lol.
Fugsmucker Jan 7 @ 7:26am 
Does anyone know if people with hacked gear remain in the game for a long time; or, do they just get to end; beat everything in a couple of hours, get bored and move on to another game to ruin for themselves. If the latter then does it really matter if they are in the game? Just dont' buy their stuff, farm your own stuff. There does seeem to be a lot of very friendly players just dropping complete sets of armor and weapons all over the place. Especially if you play the volcanic eruption map - now why is that?
Tydo Jan 7 @ 9:13am 
Well, im stumped at the how.
Dont have steam profile name nor steam profile link.
Noone on the 'recent players' list has an alias that matches or steam isnt showing it, i actually went to the profile of everyone listed for that night. One showed as not having set up his profile.
A steam search for the name came up empty.
All i have left is screenshots of the chat (didnt screenshot the Esc page). Even if TE are willing to banhammer him, they need to be able to hit the right one = do a lot of logfile digging, if they keep relevant logs.
So chances are not looking good, at this point he has practically got away with it.
Tydo Jan 7 @ 9:16am 
So bluntly, i may well be wasting their time and more of mine for something that will not catch him.
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