Dave Jan 29 @ 9:07pm
Solo Summoner?
Can it be done (effectively)?
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ralphgod3 Jan 29 @ 9:09pm 
theres an achievement on only using minions for dmg on all maps and 3 of the eternia ones
however ur able to use ev buff beams there blockades and all auras except electric

now more on topic
yes it can be done but u would require higher stats then u would need if u had multiple chars and combining their defenses
Dave Jan 29 @ 9:11pm 
Approximatly how much grinding wouuld you say I'd have to do in order to level/gear high enough to solo the eternia crystal quests?
ralphgod3 Jan 29 @ 9:18pm 
it depends on difficulty ofc but u would need pretty high stats since u cant dps urself on a summoner so u would need to send minions at boss last wave without compromising the rest of ur defense too much.

dont kill me if im wrong but i woul think with only summoner u can do mysti morrago and aquanos with around 700 in each stat on medium or hard
sky city however is impossible with only summoner unles ur carying a realy good dps pet
since the boss cant get hit by minions since minions cant get to him
same counts for crystaline dimmension altho that would be possible but it would require stats far above 700 to even do that on easy
Shadoninjayt Jan 31 @ 4:41am 
For the Real Time Strategist achievements, you can build towers and use a DPS hero on the final wave. Unless you're doing a self-imposed absolutely only minion damage, I see no reason why you wouldn't utilize towers/heroes for the boss.
ralphgod3 Jan 31 @ 11:28am 
yes but he wasnt asking for tha achievement he was asking for pure summoner probably because its his only char atm so bringing in monks huntresses and evs to back up ur minions woudnt be possible for him same for a dps char
Tydo Jan 31 @ 12:18pm 
The obvious answer is use 2 summoners.
Builder and dps specced with damage pets and switch to the dps one on final wave.
There's no rule about only having one and never switching :) As the wonderful german saying goes "Keine hexerei, nur Behändichkeit.", which means something like 'no magic, just clever use of skill'.
It is doable, but summoner gets such a huge penalty to pets, that his 2 pets are worth much less than 1 pet on any other class. And he has poor hitpoint scaling, so you have to be really careful.
I think someone said it was -75%, so 2 pets on him = 50% of 1 pet on the others.
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Roccat Feb 1 @ 12:20am 
it can be
Avous Feb 1 @ 1:18am 
You can use Buff Beams, Ensnare Auras, Strength Drain Auras, Enrage Auras, Physical Beams, Gas Traps, Darkness Traps, Magic Blockades, Healing Auras, and I think that's it. It's been awhile since I did Mythical Real Time Strategist.

Summoner is also one of my favorite Tower Classes, I like Monks and Series EV nearly as much though. The only problem is their attack speed. It makes it nearly impossible to solo any map near your equipment level without taking the advantages above.

If you use a means to sort out the weaker ones, Electric Auras/Inferno Traps, Archers can absolutely shred single targets. Ogres, Copters, Djinn, doesn't matter.
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Tydo Feb 1 @ 1:57am 
the wiki has a list here: http://dungeondefenders.wikia.com/wiki/Real_Time_Strategist

I wonder if they are correct though, because it sounds like you could get on a monk and towerboost as long as you dont actually deal damage or have a dps pet out.
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