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Juggler 2013년 1월 3일 오후 9시 31분
Purely Cerebral Test Chambers?
Is anyone else a fan of test chambers that are simple, but still require brain power / critical thinking? Anyone can make a map hard by making it huge and complex, but hard simple ones seem pretty scarce in the Portal 2 workshop.

If you too are interested in making, or playing, or brainstorming about this type of map, post your thoughts and links here!

Here's one to get you started. :)
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Juggler 2013년 1월 3일 오후 9시 34분 
Here's another; not quite as difficult, but still requires some critical thinking.

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ChevyNoel 2013년 1월 3일 오후 9시 37분 
I haven't delved into user made puzzles yet, but what you describe is what I prefer. I was happy that Portal 2 had few (if any? I don't really remember any) sections that required great dexterity.
Metroturnip 2013년 1월 3일 오후 9시 42분 
I believe that this type of chamber is the best, I've tried to make my map like this.

http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=80946578
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Juggler 2013년 1월 3일 오후 9시 43분 
Metroturnip님이 먼저 게시:
I believe that thise type of chamber is the best, I've tried to make my map like this.

Cool, I'll give it a shot!
Juggler 2013년 1월 3일 오후 9시 44분 
ChevyNoel님이 먼저 게시:
I haven't delved into user made puzzles yet, but what you describe is what I prefer. I was happy that Portal 2 had few (if any? I don't really remember any) sections that required great dexterity.

Me too; most of the second half of Portal 1, while cool, seemed more about just wandering around than solving puzzles, but they really fixed that in the second game. Still though, they could have made them way harder, and been even more creative...which I think is what the user-made levels should be used for. :)
Metroturnip 2013년 1월 3일 오후 9시 47분 
Awesome thanks mate, tell me what you think when your done.
ChevyNoel 2013년 1월 3일 오후 9시 53분 
Juggler님이 먼저 게시:
ChevyNoel님이 먼저 게시:
I haven't delved into user made puzzles yet, but what you describe is what I prefer. I was happy that Portal 2 had few (if any? I don't really remember any) sections that required great dexterity.

Me too; most of the second half of Portal 1, while cool, seemed more about just wandering around than solving puzzles, but they really fixed that in the second game. Still though, they could have made them way harder, and been even more creative...which I think is what the user-made levels should be used for. :)

I believe they were constrained by their goals for appealing to a large audience, and felt the need to design puzzles that most people, including kids, would be able to solve after a few minutes or with a small amount of trial and error. I agree that user levels can and should bring puzzles that are more through provoking, and puzzles that require precision timing (for those who prefer those types).
Juggler 2013년 1월 4일 오전 12시 17분 
Metroturnip님이 먼저 게시:
Awesome thanks mate, tell me what you think when your done.

Done (see comment). I think I kind of broke your level, though. :/
Metroturnip 2013년 1월 4일 오전 1시 12분 
Haha all good ill fix it for ya :P
Metroturnip 2013년 1월 4일 오전 2시 10분 
this is the chamber i have been working on today if your up for it

http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=118004173
Juggler 2013년 1월 4일 오전 3시 13분 
Metroturnip님이 먼저 게시:
this is the chamber i have been working on today if your up for it

The thing is...this thread was really supposed to be about small, simple, hard chambers, and yours are rather large, complex, and easy. Tell you what, beat the one of the two I posted up top and then we'll talk. :)
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Metroturnip 2013년 1월 4일 오전 4시 10분 
Haha sorry seems I miss read what it said at the top :/ but sounds good I shall give them a go tomorrow
| \_/ () 2013년 1월 4일 오후 11시 30분 
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=113813394

i think its not that hard but it's still fun. play it and i think you'd like it
Metroturnip 2013년 1월 5일 오전 1시 23분 
hey juggler this one may fit your requirements a bit better its small but you may find it a bit easy... is there anymore test you want me to play?

http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=118234185
King 2013년 1월 5일 오전 1시 57분 
not sure it ticks all the boxes because its quite large. but i have made this co-op map to test the brain power of both players. http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=117852969
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