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Juggler 3. Jan. 2013 um 21:31 Uhr
Purely Cerebral Test Chambers?
Is anyone else a fan of test chambers that are simple, but still require brain power / critical thinking? Anyone can make a map hard by making it huge and complex, but hard simple ones seem pretty scarce in the Portal 2 workshop.

If you too are interested in making, or playing, or brainstorming about this type of map, post your thoughts and links here!

Here's one to get you started. :)
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Juggler 3. Jan. 2013 um 21:34 Uhr 
Here's another; not quite as difficult, but still requires some critical thinking.

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ChevyNoel 3. Jan. 2013 um 21:37 Uhr 
I haven't delved into user made puzzles yet, but what you describe is what I prefer. I was happy that Portal 2 had few (if any? I don't really remember any) sections that required great dexterity.
Metroturnip 3. Jan. 2013 um 21:42 Uhr 
I believe that this type of chamber is the best, I've tried to make my map like this.

http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=80946578
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Juggler 3. Jan. 2013 um 21:43 Uhr 
Ursprünglich geschrieben von Metroturnip:
I believe that thise type of chamber is the best, I've tried to make my map like this.

Cool, I'll give it a shot!
Juggler 3. Jan. 2013 um 21:44 Uhr 
Ursprünglich geschrieben von ChevyNoel:
I haven't delved into user made puzzles yet, but what you describe is what I prefer. I was happy that Portal 2 had few (if any? I don't really remember any) sections that required great dexterity.

Me too; most of the second half of Portal 1, while cool, seemed more about just wandering around than solving puzzles, but they really fixed that in the second game. Still though, they could have made them way harder, and been even more creative...which I think is what the user-made levels should be used for. :)
Metroturnip 3. Jan. 2013 um 21:47 Uhr 
Awesome thanks mate, tell me what you think when your done.
ChevyNoel 3. Jan. 2013 um 21:53 Uhr 
Ursprünglich geschrieben von Juggler:
Ursprünglich geschrieben von ChevyNoel:
I haven't delved into user made puzzles yet, but what you describe is what I prefer. I was happy that Portal 2 had few (if any? I don't really remember any) sections that required great dexterity.

Me too; most of the second half of Portal 1, while cool, seemed more about just wandering around than solving puzzles, but they really fixed that in the second game. Still though, they could have made them way harder, and been even more creative...which I think is what the user-made levels should be used for. :)

I believe they were constrained by their goals for appealing to a large audience, and felt the need to design puzzles that most people, including kids, would be able to solve after a few minutes or with a small amount of trial and error. I agree that user levels can and should bring puzzles that are more through provoking, and puzzles that require precision timing (for those who prefer those types).
Juggler 4. Jan. 2013 um 0:17 Uhr 
Ursprünglich geschrieben von Metroturnip:
Awesome thanks mate, tell me what you think when your done.

Done (see comment). I think I kind of broke your level, though. :/
Metroturnip 4. Jan. 2013 um 1:12 Uhr 
Haha all good ill fix it for ya :P
Metroturnip 4. Jan. 2013 um 2:10 Uhr 
this is the chamber i have been working on today if your up for it

http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=118004173
Juggler 4. Jan. 2013 um 3:13 Uhr 
Ursprünglich geschrieben von Metroturnip:
this is the chamber i have been working on today if your up for it

The thing is...this thread was really supposed to be about small, simple, hard chambers, and yours are rather large, complex, and easy. Tell you what, beat the one of the two I posted up top and then we'll talk. :)
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Metroturnip 4. Jan. 2013 um 4:10 Uhr 
Haha sorry seems I miss read what it said at the top :/ but sounds good I shall give them a go tomorrow
| \_/ () 4. Jan. 2013 um 23:30 Uhr 
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=113813394

i think its not that hard but it's still fun. play it and i think you'd like it
Metroturnip 5. Jan. 2013 um 1:23 Uhr 
hey juggler this one may fit your requirements a bit better its small but you may find it a bit easy... is there anymore test you want me to play?

http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=118234185
King 5. Jan. 2013 um 1:57 Uhr 
not sure it ticks all the boxes because its quite large. but i have made this co-op map to test the brain power of both players. http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=117852969
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