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tate Mar 4, 2014 @ 5:23pm
chell is cave and carolines daughter?
i heard that theory and it seems really interesting and pretty likely to be true, but i was wondering if there's any counter theories to chell's origin?
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kivimik Mar 4, 2014 @ 5:52pm 
There are, but the Cave + Caroline connection is the most credible, and certainly is implied at the end. One theory I've seen (but don't subscribe to) is that Chell is a clone. But it doesn't fit with the fact that you can find a display signed "Chell" at the "Bring Your Daughter to Work Day" exhibit. One other possibility is that Doug Rattmann is Chell's adoptive parent (and this still keeps the Cave + Caroline relationship in play).
ThePlagued Mar 4, 2014 @ 5:52pm 
that theory is not possible. Cave died a long time ago. and caroline was forced into a computer
kivimik Mar 4, 2014 @ 7:31pm 
Originally posted by ThePlagued:
that theory is not possible. Cave died a long time ago. and caroline was forced into a computer

Of course it is possible. After checking two sources (Half-Life Wiki & Steam forums) it is possible that Chell was born between 1975 and 1980. According to both sources, Cave died sometime in the mid-to-late 1980s. Both sources also claim that Caroline was integrated into GlaDOS sometime after 1990. BYDtWD (and the neurotoxin) occurs sometime in the early 2000s, and Chell is placed in stasis at some point. Chell is out of stasis a little after, perhaps 2010ish.

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ThePlagued Mar 4, 2014 @ 11:19pm 
its all theories in what times they died. if you notice how deep aperture is... it'd take a few years to build that far up again, on top of that, your argument is entirely based on random people guessing
A-06 Mar 5, 2014 @ 2:52am 
So... That theory assumes Cave and Caroline were the only humans breeding in the '70s?
tate Mar 5, 2014 @ 12:29pm 
Originally posted by A-06:
So... That theory assumes Cave and Caroline were the only humans breeding in the '70s?

no, what i thought is that chell was in cryogenic (or however it's spelled) storage for a good chunk of time, and there were other test subjects (possible aperture employees or their children?) in there too, but glados killed all of them. and then, everything with chell happened. there is a lot of direct evidence of chell being an aperture employee's child
tate Mar 5, 2014 @ 12:30pm 
Originally posted by ThePlagued:
its all theories in what times they died. if you notice how deep aperture is... it'd take a few years to build that far up again, on top of that, your argument is entirely based on random people guessing

not entirely, there was a part where the audio recording was cave coughing and he was talking about if he died, he wanted caroline to take over
A-06 Mar 5, 2014 @ 4:12pm 
Originally posted by Quinn the Human:
there were other test subjects (possible aperture employees or their children?) in there too, but glados killed all of them.
Not all of them, in Portal 2: Lab Rat[www.thinkwithportals.com] we can see there were other test subjects stored.

Originally posted by Quinn the Human:
there is a lot of direct evidence of chell being an aperture employee's child
Yes, but why does she have to be Cave&Caroline's? Just because they're part of the storyline?
Why would they cryogenize their child?

I think it's like the companion cube theory; it is crazy, but there's no evidence that contradict the theory and people just roll with it.
tate Mar 5, 2014 @ 4:22pm 
Originally posted by A-06:
Originally posted by Quinn the Human:
there were other test subjects (possible aperture employees or their children?) in there too, but glados killed all of them.
Not all of them, in Portal 2: Lab Rat[www.thinkwithportals.com] we can see there were other test subjects stored.

Originally posted by Quinn the Human:
there is a lot of direct evidence of chell being an aperture employee's child
Yes, but why does she have to be Cave&Caroline's? Just because they're part of the storyline?
Why would they cryogenize their child?

I think it's like the companion cube theory; it is crazy, but there's no evidence that contradict the theory and people just roll with it.


well, there was the chell signature on the bring your daughter to work day project. and most people say that cave made one of the aperture employees (doug rattman) adopt chell. also, what is the companion cube theory?
your dad Mar 5, 2014 @ 10:07pm 
i don't know about chell being their biological daughter, since neither cave nor caroline look like chell. i like the idea that chell is rattman's adoptive daughter, though
tate Mar 6, 2014 @ 1:29pm 
Originally posted by your dad:
i don't know about chell being their biological daughter, since neither cave nor caroline look like chell. i like the idea that chell is rattman's adoptive daughter, though

i'd say that chell looks a little like caroline
Night Hawk Mar 6, 2014 @ 5:51pm 
The companoin cube theory is that there are bodies inside teh cubes (Or something like that).
Last edited by Night Hawk; Mar 6, 2014 @ 5:51pm
tate Mar 6, 2014 @ 6:47pm 
Originally posted by Night_Hawk:
The companoin cube theory is that there are bodies inside teh cubes (Or something like that).

yeah, i looked it up and it's actually pretty interesting! i mean, its a kinda crazy theory but probably not impossible
Lemurs Mar 6, 2014 @ 7:27pm 
Rattmann is not Chell's father in any way. Adopted? You honestly think a schizophrenic man would ever be allowed to do that?
Listen to the Cara Mia song on youtube with the translated lyrics added. It's pretty clear.
tate Mar 6, 2014 @ 7:36pm 
Originally posted by Lems:
Rattmann is not Chell's father in any way. Adopted? You honestly think a schizophrenic man would ever be allowed to do that?
Listen to the Cara Mia song on youtube with the translated lyrics added. It's pretty clear.

didnt he develop schizophrenia during his testing? and yes, i have seen the english lyrics before. many people think cave forced one of the employees to adopt chell after she was born, its not necessarily him but it could be.
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