Steam version also works on SCUMMVM?

[Nikz]

I was wondering if the version on steam of The Dig, Loom, etc... work on the program SCUMMVM?

[monkeymadness]

I am confused by your question, because the games are run on steam. They don't appear to be compatible with ScummVM.

[Nikz]

I meant, if you could use the files you download from Steam (the game) and use it on ScummVM. But if you said they are not compatible, then I guess that's that :(

[monkeymadness]

Yeah, even though Steam has some files downloaded for the game, the files are not all that is needed by ScummVM to make it run on that program. It is the sad truth we all have to deal with.

[Strajder]

In these Steam releasees, some files have been injected in the executables of the games instead of being standalone. There is a way to make them all work with ScummVM, but that seems to be illegal. 'Nuff said, I'm not encouraging anything. Google is your friend by the way.

[dugan_c]

The Steam versions of Loom, The Dig, and the Indiana Jones games work with ScummVM 1.7.0, which was released July 21.

[monkeymadness]

Originally posted by dugan_c:

The Steam versions of Loom, The Dig, and the Indiana Jones games work with ScummVM 1.7.0, which was released July 21.

This post made my day! The update has a ton of good stuff that needed fixing.

[Strajder]

This is odd, since there was quite a commotion on the ScummVM forums about the legality of the support for Steam versions. Well, I guess they got a confirmation that it is legal, then?

[Zodion]

Yes, there is a ScummVM Steam which can play them, I play The Dig on my tablet using it.

[Zodion]

Originally posted by Strajder:

This is odd, since there was quite a commotion on the ScummVM forums about the legality of the support for Steam versions. Well, I guess they got a confirmation that it is legal, then?

Not sure why it would be illegal? You own the game, you can do what you want with it.

[Strajder]

Originally posted by Gustaf:

Not sure why it would be illegal? You own the game, you can do what you want with it.

You can, but what you do with it can be against the license agreement, thus illegal.

[Schmuppes]

I dislike that Steam enforces Graphics Filters. You can choose to use them in ScummVM, but you can just as well leave it as pixel-y as it was back in the day. I'd like to be able to decide myself.

[Player 1 (Cosmo)]

Originally posted by Strajder:

You can, but what you do with it can be against the license agreement, thus illegal.

No its not lol... its like saying that modding your singleplayer games is illigal...

[Strajder]

Originally posted by Handsome Jack:

No its not lol... its like saying that modding your singleplayer games is illigal...

Read the license text better then. Most non-free games and applications out there have a very restricted set of what is permitted to be done with them in the license agreement. Most of them also explicitly state that you do not "own" them, but only have them licensed to you.

[identifiedasbeingdisrespectful]

Originally posted by Strajder:

Originally posted by Handsome Jack:

No its not lol... its like saying that modding your singleplayer games is illigal...

Read the license text better then. Most non-free games and applications out there have a very restricted set of what is permitted to be done with them in the license agreement. Most of them also explicitly state that you do not "own" them, but only have them licensed to you.

and scummvm doesn't alter anything and no alteration is required since all these releases have done is add an exe frontend to the existing game files. Just point it to the main directory for the game, and it works. A software license could not be so tight as to tell me what executables I can run along side their software.

[Strajder]

From what I remember (it was a long time since I was in touch with this), the problem with this Steam release was that it has some files injected into the .exe. So making it work with ScummVM involves at least "reverse engineering" of the game files, not only addition. Most proprietary software (a category which most games fall into) forbids reverse engineering and other forms of tampering with the game files. Regarding this, software licenses are pretty clear and "tight".

Of course, if you own a CD version, you could simply copy the necessary files from it, but that can't be generally assumed. Those who do not own a CD version simply can't play the game in ScummVM without reverse engineering, in other words, without breaking the license.