Wargame: European Escalation

Wargame: European Escalation

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GrubGrower Dec 28, 2013 @ 2:14pm
Ridiculous Learning Curve
Bought this game as it was going cheap in the Christmas sale. I've never come across a learning curve like it!! No tutorial that's worth anything, no manual either. Virtualy impossible to get along with.
Anybody got a link to manual I can download, or any decent help to get me started? I've been playing for a fair few hours already and got absolutely nowhere. Starting to think I've wasted my money.
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ŊЏ | Shifu Dec 29, 2013 @ 4:29am 
There's a manual (you should find it on steam, isn't it linked in the library .. can't check right now) and plenty of guides around .. check youtube as well. But I agree it's not easy to learn the game.
GrubGrower Dec 29, 2013 @ 9:19am 
Cheers, I'll have a look around. It seems like a decent game, just really frustrating trying to work it all out.
edawg109 Dec 29, 2013 @ 12:23pm 
I feel your pain. I did notice that if you play solo from top to bottom it gives you some sort of walkthrough that builds upon each other to get you to understand some of the controls.
r3bs Dec 31, 2013 @ 2:56pm 
I've got to disagree about "ridiculous learning curve", but yeah, the absense of tutorial (well there are some tips in the first campaign but i feel they are not enough) kinda sucks. This game looks way scarier than it is, i just dont want people reading this to think this game is hard to learn. I am not a wargame or strategy player myself but i could understand the way everything works quite fast.

I can recommend this youtube playlist, it helped me : http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL0p3l0ggbMcs1jpdHTUKM7wTU9UAdoaTl
He also has similar videos about Airland Battles.
Last edited by r3bs; Dec 31, 2013 @ 3:01pm
Winter_Wolf Feb 16, 2014 @ 1:41pm 
If you play Bruder Gegen Bruder scenario from the beginning (as you're supposed to do really...) then it gives you information as you need it. If you've actually tried, you will have known this already so there IS tutorial, really. No tutorial in games TOTALLY cover everything, especially in a game like this that has tons of units and all.
razvanclaudiu Mar 16, 2014 @ 3:15pm 
It's not that hard. There are only a few major mechanics in the game you need to understand:

1. Supply lines - The less vulnerable a weapon is, the more ammo it requires. Yes, you can simply buy MLRS and bomb the enemy from the other side of the map and in single player, it actually works. If you are patient, you can complete a lot of missions using artillery strikes. However, artillery takes a lot of ammo and since there are no FOBs in the game, it's a risky move.

2. Range. I don't focus a lot on AP or HE damage. Instead, I focus on range. If unit 1 has a range of 1500 and unit 2 of 2500, then unit 1 is toast.

3. Combined arms. Tanks beat all ground units but are also very vulnerable to long range units and dedicated anti-tank units. Choppers rock in this game but they have a very, VERY limited amount of ammo and a single anti-air unit can take them down fast. Artillery can take down entire divisions in seconds but this usually requires both luck and skill. In single player, the enemy keeps his units on the same spot so it works better. Recon sucks against almost anything but without it, your 100 point, long range tanks are useless since they can't see the target.

4. There are hundred of units but most of them are variations on the same units. You have:
1) Supply vehicles for ammo, fuel - air or ground.
2) Command vehicle for capturing zones - air or ground.
3) Recon - for spotting targets.
4) Tanks ranging from normal tanks to rocket based ones.
5) Infantry - ranges from anti-infantry, anti-tank, anti-air. Very versatile and cheap but with a very low range.
6) Anti-air.
7) Vehicles which have different roles.
8) Choppers - amazing units for precision strikes. The AH 64 for example costs I think 160 points. This is the equivalent of 5 starter tanks. The advantage with the Apache is that it hits from a distance, a really big one, it hits hard and it moves fast. The disadvantage is that a tank has about 140 shells. The Apache has around 10 rockets.

So even if this game seems very intimidating at start, it's not. It's simply using the right counter for the enemy units and using the right units for the job. recon + tanks + anti-air can usually get any job done.
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Date Posted: Dec 28, 2013 @ 2:14pm
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