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Ƒoηтα [EﻜP] Mar 30, 2013 @ 6:36pm
Surrender button [SURRENDER VOTES]
The title speaks for itself.

Because i think that losing for example 10min (i have been waiting 15-20min in a lot of games....) just for of an already lost game... is just a waste of time, THEN NO FUN. And i appreciate much my time.

For example: If all of your team stays at base more than 5 min, then the surrender vote can be called (with 30min of lapsed time before, or something like that)
Thanks you Valve team.

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Originally posted by Andy<Cross=Love:

I just recently played a game where at 25 minutes, it was 8 to 50. We didn't have a chance. it wasn't like 'it could go either way!'.... no no no... ONE guy on there team, could wipe out nearly our entire team fighting him togther, while he was alone.

That's not fun. I don't give crap about your man up blaw blaw blaw. I don't have hours on end to play, and spend most of them waiting for 20 minutes for the other team to finish the game.

The game didn't end until 45 minutes. 20 minutes of non-stop, no possible chance, endless slaughter.

And here's the problem... they didn't even TRY to finish the game. It wasn't like we were defending our base and holding them off. They simply ran past our towers, and camped out at our spawn killing us when we popped into existence. They did this for a full 10 minutes straight. Just killing us, and waiting and killing us and waiting. Meanwhile the time is passing by, and we're not even attacking, or nuking or doing anything. 3 of our people went AFK, and they still wouldn't finish the game.

THIS IS NOT FUN. THIS IS BORING, and A WASTE OF TIME.

Now if *YOU* want to be stupid, and waste the next 20 minutes of your life fighting a game where you will never have a chance of even scoring a point, let alone winning, that's your choice. But the rest of us have better things to do. So there should be a surrender button.

Now I'm not advocating that you hit the button, and ditch your team. But if 3 out of 5 players, don't want to play anymore because it's absolutely hopeless, and you are the only one dumb enough to keep fight, you should not be able to cry about other people wanting to play a game they have a chance of winning. It's not like you learn anything being slaughtered repeatedly for 20 minuets. The only thing you learn is, intentionally feeding is a great way to speed up the loss. I completely understand why some people intentionally feed at the end of the game. in fact, I've done that. You want to waste my time? I'll waste yours, and make sure you lose. Man up to that buddy.
Last edited by Ƒoηтα [EﻜP]; Jun 17, 2013 @ 1:12am
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Deck the Hall with Jars of Bile Mar 30, 2013 @ 6:46pm 
No.
luciusETRUR Mar 30, 2013 @ 6:50pm 
NEVER GIVE UP NEVER SURRENDER
Discodude Mar 30, 2013 @ 6:52pm 
There would no doubt be a defeatist-mentality population once this is implemented (indeed there already is, but they can't surrender). People already intentionally feed. Having a surrender button would make games end prematurely and how is that fair to the farming Maginas or Faceless Voids who will afterwards carry their team. How useless would late-game characters be if the game ends at 20 minutes because people don't care? In any case, the game should continue the way it is. No problem with no surrender button.
re:plus Mar 30, 2013 @ 7:24pm 
No dont make a surrender button. People will spam it so much and lose a game where u can win late game. Comebacks in dota is the most amazing things that have happen to me in gaming
Bjordin The Viking Mar 30, 2013 @ 7:53pm 
Want a surrender button? Go to League. Real men overcome the high difficulty curve of Dota 2 and dominate. Those men never surrender.

In all seriousness, this game doesn't need a surrender button. Games that run into the late game have a tendency to go either way, so giving teams a surrender option removes that ability to come back in late game since the ones who give up easily (or as I like to call them, the pathetic weaklings) will surrender before that can happen. Things like the surrender button makes the community a bit more toxic due to it being easier for teams to just give up rather than try, since leaving the game brings consequences. This relates to the one thread about giving each person 1 free leave a day. You shouldn't be removing punishment for those who don't want to try until the very end to win. If they truly want to surrender, they can just leave and take the penalty that comes with being a quitter.

TL;DR - Man up or go to League. This game isn't meant for quitters.
Senor Rabbs Mar 30, 2013 @ 8:22pm 
Surrender = abandonment. As stated this would truin dota, either you stick to the end or leave the game.
Wizzard Mar 30, 2013 @ 9:46pm 
It can be only one attemp to propose surrennder to team in 5 minutes (spam protection like pause), and if 4 of 5 teammates agree, game ends. Sometimes all see that its gg but enemy instead of FF start to kill roshan, and other stuff.
*oblon@eve online Mar 31, 2013 @ 1:54am 
too many ppl give up too early...played many games that looked like a loose and turned into a win....never surrender! ^^
TheKasp [2fast2sproink] Mar 31, 2013 @ 3:50am 
*cough* There is a surrender option. I already suggest it to people who already given up and wait for my team to finish it (which can take up to 10 minutes depending on how well we are farmed) or we do it if there is no way in hell we can win.

Though it needs the approval of the whole team of yours.
Ƒoηтα [EﻜP] Mar 31, 2013 @ 7:18am 
I was thinking about a surrender VOTE.

Because if the game is already lost and there's nothing to do agains the feeded enemy team, you have to wait like a ♥♥♥♥ING IDIOT.
Ghost9610 Mar 31, 2013 @ 7:22am 
No retreat, no surrender! To the last man and the last round!
Ƒoηтα [EﻜP] Mar 31, 2013 @ 7:24am 
Originally posted by ;828934913271409886:
No retreat, no surrender! To the last man and the last round!

Yeah but my time is gold.
Ƒoηтα [EﻜP] Mar 31, 2013 @ 7:25am 
Originally posted by Bile JAR:
No.

Very constructive. Thanks you.
L3ros Mar 31, 2013 @ 7:26am 
Originally posted by Fonta EﻜP:
Originally posted by ;828934913271409886:
No retreat, no surrender! To the last man and the last round!

Yeah but my time is gold.
Your time is nothing, seeing how you promote defeatism you are probably the reason the team is losing in the first place.+

Edit: lol 87 hours of dota2 "VALVE CHANGE THE GAME FOR ME"
Last edited by L3ros; Mar 31, 2013 @ 7:27am
Ghost9610 Mar 31, 2013 @ 7:27am 
Originally posted by Fonta EﻜP:
Originally posted by ;828934913271409886:
No retreat, no surrender! To the last man and the last round!

Yeah but my time is gold.
Your time is gold, but my time is platinum. So, just wait when enemy wants to ended your nightmare
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