Left 4 Dead 2

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Mr.Softy Nov 26, 2012 @ 10:59pm
Don't play Versus if....
Don't play Versus mode if...
you can't lose,
you ragequit after one map,
you can't wait 5 minutes in a lobby and just spam "GOOOOO!" in chat all the time,
you just want a quick trolling with Special Infected and play Survivors like poop,
you don't know the map with all its chokepoints and killspots,
you don't know that you can go back to ghost mode and respawn as Infected,
you keep on running if you hear the tank music,
you don't share pills or medkits,
you have less than 100 hours in campaign,
you blame the team for your mistakes,
you rush ahead or explore empty rooms,
you can't crown a witch,
you play the finale as Infected and leave when it's time to play Survivors,
you attack alone as Special Infected,
you don't know the right order for saving survivors, chasing after jockeys while the hunter has a go at the all-you-can-eat-buffet,
you instantly spawn as Infected, not waiting for the last moment to surprise survivors,
you act like an antisocial jerk who doesn't care about your team,
you pounce somebody as the hunter with 3 survivors around them,
you hesitate as a boomer, not creating opportunities for your teammates,
etc, etc, etc.....

Seriously, this list could go on and on and on and on like this.

It's so annoying when you want to play a complete match and every round 2 guys in your team ragequit. If you can't lose, don't play, if you want just some quick mindless action - play Modern Warfare or some other poop.

Feel free to add to this list, I'm sure I've missed a lot of the massive stupidity that jumps at you when playing L4D2 with random players.

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GOLD Zombie™ Nov 27, 2012 @ 5:25pm 
Thats just it! Dont play with randoms! Problem solved!
Commander Nov 27, 2012 @ 9:06pm 
you should play a game ( friend only ) i never play public game because 98% of people are ♥♥♥♥♥ specialy teen and kid ,, if you play a public game all the thing you say will happen for sure , every time
Captain Barbossa Nov 28, 2012 @ 3:03pm 
There hasn't been someone who didn't do these things in this game!
Mr.Softy Nov 28, 2012 @ 3:10pm 
Originally posted by Captain Barbossa:
There hasn't been someone who didn't do these things in this game!

Yeah, because most new players start playing Versus right after getting the game.
wat Dec 1, 2012 @ 10:45am 
Originally posted by Mr.Softy:
you have less than 100 hours in campaign,

-.-
Mr.Softy Dec 1, 2012 @ 11:15am 
Originally posted by W4FFL3 C41KZ:
Originally posted by Mr.Softy:
you have less than 100 hours in campaign,

-.-

What? Most people in Versus make the most basic mistakes, for example, they can't deal with the horde.
If you play campaign on expert you can either handle the horde or just die, you know when to give pills to your team or use it for yourself, you know not to wander off.

It seems to me that most people just want to troll around with special infected, and their skills as survivor are minimal.

By the way, fun fact: You can heal yourself and help somebody up at the same time. ^^
Spitfire Dec 1, 2012 @ 11:41am 
typical elitist blablabla
al64inthedark Dec 1, 2012 @ 12:07pm 
I totally agree with the 100 hours rules
Last edited by al64inthedark; Dec 1, 2012 @ 12:08pm
Vampcinda Dec 2, 2012 @ 5:29am 
- As a tank, don't charge blindly ahead if you know the survivors have motovs
- As a tank, try to wait for your boomer to initiate before you rush in
- Don't wait for your tank to initiate - help them! It's okay to be a little extra reckless with your specials, as long as you cause some havoc and distract the survivors so your tank doesn't get focused
beEZ (Banned) Dec 2, 2012 @ 11:44am 
Originally posted by {LS}~Spitfire:
typical elitist blablabla

Call it as you wish, but people not following these tips will probably get kicked in 99% of games.

If they wish to become better and make their experience less bitter, I would suggest you follow these simple tips. (Taking into account that people actually made an effort to give them to you to make everyone's game experience better)

I am not an elitist, but I like to play a game with people that know what they are doing. If I say don't go out of the saferoom, they only have 2 people on their team, and you go out alone like a boss and get incapped. I votekick you and then you come here and ask what you did wrong, saying how the community sux and people kick for no reason.

It is common sense to learn the basics of the game in single player before going online. You don't risk making a fool of yourself and get kicked, and ruining your and other people's games. This goes for any game, not just L4D2. Why the hell would you jump into VS (or any mutliplayer mod) with less than 5 hours in game...what do you expect will happen? So please cut the "elitist talk" crap.

People play to have fun, and if you ruin their fun, out you go, simple as that. And to make things clear, fun does not mean WIN to me, fun is playing with people who know what they are doing, who do not need to be told every little thing that they should have learned in the campagin (such as what does the bile do), can and accept to communicate with the team, and so on, making the game a challenge somehow. If I have these people with me, I do not mind losing to a better team. What makes people angry is that you have 7 people with decent knowledge of the game and then you have 1 person on your team who does not know where to go on the map (it happened to me yesterday, guy got lost and said sorry I did not know the map so I did not know where to go / again a thing he should have known from campaign)

I know they cannot learn versus tactics without playing VS, since they cannot learn it in campaign. But at least learn what each item does, how the maps go, how to shoot different guns and get better with them, clear SI from teammates, push the boomer and shoot instead of just shooting and booming all the team, etc., etc.
Last edited by beEZ; Dec 2, 2012 @ 11:46am
Mr.Softy Dec 2, 2012 @ 1:44pm 
Originally posted by beEZ СРБ:
I know they cannot learn versus tactics without playing VS, since they cannot learn it in campaign.

Well, you can always practice with special infected against bots, if you know the console commands. And it's really useful.

There's no other way to learn all the hunter jump tricks and 25 damage pounce spots.
You can practice boomer vomiting, hunter pouncing, rock curving, just to get an overall view of the infected's game mechanics. Sure, tactics come later online.

This is also useful for Survivors, btw.
Witchcrowning, deadstopping, tonguecutting, that's all techniques you can't practice in a proper match.
beEZ (Banned) Dec 2, 2012 @ 8:35pm 
Originally posted by Mr.Softy:
Originally posted by beEZ СРБ:
I know they cannot learn versus tactics without playing VS, since they cannot learn it in campaign.

Well, you can always practice with special infected against bots, if you know the console commands. And it's really useful.

There's no other way to learn all the hunter jump tricks and 25 damage pounce spots.
You can practice boomer vomiting, hunter pouncing, rock curving, just to get an overall view of the infected's game mechanics. Sure, tactics come later online.

This is also useful for Survivors, btw.
Witchcrowning, deadstopping, tonguecutting, that's all techniques you can't practice in a proper match.

True.

I do not remember what the commands are because I have done this a couple of years ago when I started playing. If someone knows the console commands to play as infected in single player, it would be appreciated if you could post them here. It would help people, or at least those willing to learn.
[MTX] Neo™ Dec 3, 2012 @ 4:28am 
it's sad to see that if you are beginner, you stay beginner cos every times you want to perfect your skills by playing a game in versus mod you'll be kick at the first mistake.
So it's impossible to be better one day cos you'll never have the opprtunity to play more than one mistake.
i play versus mod for the first time yesterday and i see that if you are not a perfect gamer you'll be kick.
So i want to ask to the peoples who kick everybody without give them a chance to become perfect if they was perfect at their first time they play versus mod?
I don't think so.
oh and sorry for my english ...... i'm french and i'm not perfect yet so don't kick me from the forum please ;)
cookies? Dec 3, 2012 @ 7:17am 
Originally posted by Neo™:
it's sad to see that if you are beginner, you stay beginner cos every times you want to perfect your skills by playing a game in versus mod you'll be kick at the first mistake.
So it's impossible to be better one day cos you'll never have the opprtunity to play more than one mistake.
i play versus mod for the first time yesterday and i see that if you are not a perfect gamer you'll be kick.
So i want to ask to the peoples who kick everybody without give them a chance to become perfect if they was perfect at their first time they play versus mod?
I don't think so.
oh and sorry for my english ...... i'm french and i'm not perfect yet so don't kick me from the forum please ;)


I have a few friends on my friend list that would disagree with you. Do you know what they did different?
-First they don't QQ at every votekick they get.
-Second they play campagin and develope a friend list to play friend only versus.
-Third they ask two good players to play on the oppsite team of each other in that versus game.(this way good players can teach the newb versus player but since this is a teaching game instead of a normal game the experineced player is more willing to teach.)
Half of these newbs will become noobs but the other half could become really good players
-Once you get enough skills then you can play in normal pub game or PUG games without getting kicked contasntly.( I never say you never get kicked since you never know who you going to find in a public game.)

Will any newbs in this fourm listen and do this? Most likely not since this will require work and effort. Most newbs just want to jump into versus and destory games. Once newbs get kick from a game or two then the newbs will come into this fourm and make a antivotekick thread. Yes tell valve to stop patching the game and adjust the votekick system to suit you guys.
Last edited by cookies?; Dec 3, 2012 @ 7:18am
beEZ (Banned) Dec 3, 2012 @ 7:21am 
Originally posted by Neo™:
it's sad to see that if you are beginner, you stay beginner cos every times you want to perfect your skills by playing a game in versus mod you'll be kick at the first mistake.
So it's impossible to be better one day cos you'll never have the opprtunity to play more than one mistake.
i play versus mod for the first time yesterday and i see that if you are not a perfect gamer you'll be kick.
So i want to ask to the peoples who kick everybody without give them a chance to become perfect if they was perfect at their first time they play versus mod?
I don't think so.
oh and sorry for my english ...... i'm french and i'm not perfect yet so don't kick me from the forum please ;)

Ajoute moi sur ta liste d'amis, il me fera plaisir de jouer avec toi et t'aider à t'améliorer. Personnellement, je ne kick jamais parce que quelqu'un a fait une erreur. Mais, je kick si la personne fait ce qu'elle veut en se foutant complètement de ce que l'équipe fait. La plupart du monde seront patient si tu coopère, c'est-à-dire que tu fais ce que l'équipe fait et que tu communiques avec le reste de l'équipe dans les moments clés.

On reste ensemble pour pouvoir survivre (si tu prend une autre direction tout seul, les chances sont fortes qu'on ne pourra pas te sauver, que tu meures, et que nous perdons; et je ne vois qu'une seule façon pour un joueur de se perdre et de prendre une direction tout seul, c'est qu'il ne connaît pas ses maps ou qu'il se fout de ses coéquipiers).

Ce que je veux dire communiquer dans les moments clés: c'est dire quand nous sommes pris par une horde de zombie et que tu vois que l'équipe s'éloigne sans le remarquer, que tu dises si un Infecté Spécial (Jokey,Charger,Smoker, Hunter) t'as piégé, et ce immédiatement afin de prévenir que tu perds des points de vie inutilement, bref ce genre de choses.

Bien-sûr avoir un microphone serait un grand atout pour communiquer plus vite au lieu de perdre du temps en écrivant avec le clavier (non seulement tu dois t'arrêter pour taper, mais pendant ce temps là tu ne peux rien faire et tu es une proie facile pour l'équipe des zombies). Il est beaucoup plus facile de dire simplement Smoker derrière...ou À l'aide derrière... Et puis un micro ça s'achète pour 5 euros, du moins celui que j'ai et il fonctionne très bien.

J'ai oublié de mentionner qu'il est important d'attaquer ensemble en tant que zombies. Attaquer tout seul est inutile, tu mourras tout de suite et tu rendra l'attaque des autres vulnérable. Aussi il y a des endroits clés où il est préférable d'attaquer afin de faire de plus gros dégâts. Par exemple, dans No Mercy 2e Map, il y a un moment où les survivants doivent monter avec un lift sur le toit (à côté de la pompe à essence). Il est préférable d'attendre pour qu'ils montent sur le toit et de les attaquer en même temps que les hordes de zombies. Tu peux utiliser un smoker pour en tirer un en bas du toit et lui faire perdre tous ses points de vie d'un coup, ou alors avec un charger ou jockey. De plus si un boomer vomit sur tout le monde une autre horde s'ajoute. Donc l'attaque est beaucoup plus efficace que si tu avais attaqué tout seul avant même que les survivants aient commencé à monter le lift. Bien-sûr ça tu ne l'aurais pas pu le savoir sans jouer VS, et il est normal que tu ne le saches pas et que tu fasses des erreurs, cependant si tu communique et tu écoutes ce que les autres disent, tu apprends beaucoup plus vite.

En résumé, si t'es un bon gars qui a envie de jouer en équipe et qui coopère avec ses coéquipiers, je ne vois aucune raison de kicker. Peu importe si tu fais des erreurs ou non. Personne n'est parfait, et même moi après mes 1050 heures et 1000+ de matchs de VS j'en fait encore.

Bien-sûr tu tomberas sur des ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥s qui vont faire kick pour n'importe quelle raison, ça on n'y peut rien y faire. Trouve toi des gens sympa avec qui tu auras eu de belles expériences en mode campagne par exemple et ajoute les à ta liste, tu pourras jouer avec ses mêmes personnes en VS et être sûr de ne pas te faire kicker. Et prend l'habitude de bloquer les ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ que tu rencontreras en ligne afin de t'assurer que tu ne les reverras plus jamais dans le même match ;).
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