I really, really, really, hate stupid fin griefers..

[Herc]

Cant stand it, they join midgame during crucial points and either jump off the roof, into the water, or start teamkilling everyone. Im sick of it. The last three games ive played had ended with me raging because I dont want to continue the campaign when were 900 points down because of stupid idiots who have no lives or skill and therefore resort to buying a game just so they can on purpose suck and ♥♥♥♥ of their teammates?
I mean surely these are the people that torture kittens and puppies am I not right :/

I really wish they would add a ban system like counter strike go, keep those asshats from even connecting to a versus lobby.
Detect intentional tking, suicide things like that.
I mean seriously when this stuff happens ingame and the match WAS pretty close, it makes me feel like punching myself in the face ARGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
SERIOUSLY DO YOU NOT HAVE A LIFE YOU HAVE TO JOIN PEOPLES GAMES JUST SO YOU CAN KILL YOURSELF SOMEONE SHOULD MAKE A INDIE GAME BASE SOLELY ON FIN GRIEFING IM SURE IT WOULD BE A HIT

[TinyTim]

Make use of Steam's blocked users list. Once someone is blocked, you will never be placed with that person again.

[Herc]

yeah i forgot to mention i make good use of the block system,
for every griefer you block they have two more friends to take their place
makes me sad.
like i said would love to see a ban system like cs go.
But i want to hear from someone who griefs, why do they do it.
I know there are times Im so mad that i feel like doing it after getting kicked for stupid reasons or someone ♥♥♥♥ talking and pub stomping with their friends ( and being on the pub side ).
But I dont just join random games and do it, I mean SERIOUSLY, WHY DO IT?!

I have my suspicions that people invite their friends off their buddy list just to purposely screw the other team over for a easy win. I bet it happens more often then people think... game really needs a global temp banning system. Make people think twice about killing their teammate or theirselves.

[TinyTim]

I have over 80 people blocked from my many hours of L4D2, and over time I've noticed that the quality of my games have gotten a lot better. However, any time there is a L4D2 sale, there's always a rush of noobs, and they are more likely to be griefers.

My conclusion is that online gaming is just the way it is. It's the nature of the beast, and right now the best defense is to block bad users, and try to play with friends as much as possible.

[Chaos]

Team-killers...the only time in real life they get to go postal and killed everybody without going to jail.

I love me some griefers hunting. Hunting the hunter is awesome.

[Sircus]

If one joins a team where there are 3 russians they would vote-ban you simply cause you dont understand their language...

[}CO{ Alpha9]

i greif like a tiny bit, (i dont do it on games wehre you need teamwork though, i mean like online match on CoD and stuff.) and i really dont know why they do it, i do it to usless players o we have room for a good player. but i do it for a reason, to win a match. not like most people do. so if you play with me, dont block with me, im a good player.

[matthewameluxen]

I recently got this game and haven't had any significant problems with griefers, but perhaps I've been lucky. The one rant I do have is around armchair generals in NORMAL mode; the ones who vocally demand perfection in a game mode that is, quite honestly, very forgiving and made for general play.

I wouldn't have a problem with that attitude in advanced or expert, but normal? Some of us are new; Some of us are not great players (hence normal mode); Some of us play on normal because it is forgiving and want to bumrush the map without extreme consequences.

[`money hat]

first of all i will side with you in saying that it is very frustrating, and it would be wonderful had they implemented some sort of ban, i myself dont think it would work because of the small user base and amount of dedicated servers. but hasn't anyone ever told you, DO NOT FEED THE TROLLS. it is your exact reaction that fuels them to do what they do. so next time, try laughing it off and try to understand that these people were most likely the abused kittens you mentioned.

[themaster_g]

Well the griefers as you say play mostly on expert because of the damage thats made on that lvl, since u play at that lvl (i supose u do) u can tell most of the time ppl behavior by reading their names and playing a lot of time there to identify them, also waiting behind the new player joining the game helps, the votation for kicking players helps 2, although as u say sometimes its not enough i remember playing one map 3 times cuz of fin retrds screweing the game (different players each time) i think the best choice to avoid this its that the damage they make it reverse to their own character and everyone would be a happy player

[Herc]

Most of the griefing im reffering to is in Versus.
But yeah I have experienced griefers in expert too. But at least expert only allows 3 other players therefore reducing the chances of someone joining from the public pool being a asshat and griefer. And most of the time expert is just brutal enough you dont need someone shooting you in the back. But another thing besides a ban system is to make new players beat at least one advanced map before being able to play versus ffs.
Before I ever touched versus I had beat all the advanced, and a couple expert campaigns before I even tried.
And how do you feed or not feed a troll when they desire to join a game, jump off the roof and quit before the kickvote goes into effect. Or you can even do anything really.
And banning only does so much, Ive banned hundreds of griefers.
WHICH IS VERY BAD, at this point you dont think twice about banning someone, you start PREEMPTIVELY banning people, because they have iffy names, or their scratching their ♥♥♥ and afk for a second. Its not a good scenario. Campaign is campaign, its easy to find friends for that who want to help. Versus..... its a competive mode, you dont get a second chance, and I enjoy winning, and it REALLY makes me mad when I lose. I know that sounds really dumb and selfish?
But if the teammates im playing with are good(can aim and follow) theres usually not much chance of losing as a survivor.
On a side note :/
I missed the days of left 4 dead 1 with built in EXPERT versus.(Yeah i know there is a mutation, but who really plays them? Its hard to find a lobby for NO Mercy, favorite map for l4d2, because deathcharges can really change who is going to win on the finale. )
They should have left at least left advanced versus in.
EPIC games, screw these ci that hit for what 2 dmg? Just does nothing against a team that can aim and melee. I know if my teammates shoot zombies and not just run by them, CI seem seriously underpowered..

[Ash Williams]

One thing I'd recommend is to go to l4dmaps.com and download some of the great add-on campaigns there. The people that play these online tend to be the more serious players. I also try to friend request anyone I play with that's good to build up a group you can rely on.