More and more hackers in L4D2

[Call Me Wonder Woman]

Recently during an versus game, my mates and i are doing poorly, and we seldom do SO POORLY, not that i am bragging but we play together often hence we know each other's attack patterns, anyways, back to the main topic, we start to notice that there is this person in the game, who seems to know exactly where we spawn, even if we spawn real close to her, she will auto shove us away and or always have one shot kill with her sniper rifle...initially we just thought she must be really good however after a few rounds, someone commented that she is using the new hack and sent me a link in youtube, it's like wall hack, aimbot and auto shove. It's horrible how these people would even wanna hack in a zombie game, to think i play l4d to avoid the hackers in MW3...and now this...is there a way to banned these people with hacks? Can steam or valve do something about it?

[greggha]

Yes you can report abuse via Steam. I think there is a button in the in-game "Shift + Tab" menu to report a player violation. Hopefully they will be discovered and banned. Valve has an entire department to work on their VAC anti cheat system, so once these people are caught it is likely you will never see them on a Valve server again.

Also, make sure you're on a server that is VAC secured so there is less likelihood that hackers will be on one since they will get permanently banned if discovered.

[QuarDrix]

Hackers have driven me from everything. I used to love the beta version of mods until hackers came into the picture. Then i started buying games. I've witnessed TF2 hacking, Killing Floor hacking. DayZ hacking. ESPECIALLY L4D2 hacking. It makes me sick to see that people have such little skill as to have to use automated killing hacks just to get from point A to point B. It ruins the game and makes me, personally, want to take a magnum from it and shoot my laptop and never pick up a mouse and keyboard again. Wish that I could play with some actual players :'/

[Call Me Wonder Woman]

Are those steam servers VAC secured? Well, i do that only when i am positive that person hacks, i don't wanna be a troll but it rea;;y destroys the game. Hackers and rage quitters...:(

Originally posted by greggha:

Yes you can report abuse via Steam. I think there is a button in the in-game "Shift + Tab" menu to report a player violation. Hopefully they will be discovered and banned. Valve has an entire department to work on their VAC anti cheat system, so once these people are caught it is likely you will never see them on a Valve server again.

Also, make sure you're on a server that is VAC secured so there is less likelihood that hackers will be on one since they will get permanently banned if discovered.

[Call Me Wonder Woman]

You think that's bad...have you seen COD hacks? It's ridiculous...those trolls would simply shoot u through walls! What's the fun of playing when using hacks, simply don't understand..

Originally posted by Spectre³:

Hackers have driven me from everything. I used to love the beta version of mods until hackers came into the picture. Then i started buying games. I've witnessed TF2 hacking, Killing Floor hacking. DayZ hacking. ESPECIALLY L4D2 hacking. It makes me sick to see that people have such little skill as to have to use automated killing hacks just to get from point A to point B. It ruins the game and makes me, personally, want to take a magnum from it and shoot my laptop and never pick up a mouse and keyboard again. Wish that I could play with some actual players :'/

[cookies]

You guys really need to post a youtube video about you evidence. Yes, people hack in left for dead 2, but for every real hacker there are at least 20 times the amount of false hack accusations. The sad thing is that sometime hacker or cheater will never get caught. Some will use addon or scripts to change skin or shoot speed that VAC don't look at.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O-7cHQ61mTA

This is the really sad part, Even in the competitive scene give hacker or cheater a second chance.

http://www.l4dnation.com/general-discussion/another-hacker-bites-the-dust/105/

Second, we come to issue of different config for the game like refresh rate and lerp.
Many experienced players like myself want to have the highest refresh rate and the lowest lerp( higher lerp for infected) for better hit detection.
Is this cheating?
Some may say yes, since changing these configs can give you edge over causal players.
Ok long arm tank is definitely cheating

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hq0tI4r3DKE

Lastly, are the infected moves like haymaker(punch and throw a rock at the same time as a tank) cheating?

It banned in confogl but not on normal valve server. If haymaker is cheating then what about curve rock or rocket boom?

End of the day it up you to decide. Just block people that you think that is "cheat" since coming to forum or report to valve will most likely be no help at all. FYI All of valve's cheat banning is done by VAC not by user report.

[Stein]

I completely agree with cookies. I honestly don't find the haymaker cheating. I do it rarely, normally only to people who talk ♥♥♥♥ lol. Rocket booming is not cheating either. It's proper timing while jumping and spawning. I have not heard of this curved rock though. I am going to look it up so I know how =)

95% of people who are accused of hacking aren't. I've been called one and have called others. Though 99% of the time it's cause I'm mad hahah.

People just need to understand that a team on versus can be unstoppable if they are good enough. I have had tons of games where the team that won had the most tie breakers (+25 at the end of both turns). It's been out for awhile. People are just good. There are nights where I can't kill commons and then I have nights where I one shot every thing that comes into sight.

[Marked One]

I'm always perplexed at the point behind hacking. I don't see too much of it in Expert/Community Campaigns, but when I go to scavange and versus, I see a whole lot of ♥♥♥♥ that shouldn't be possible. I can understand behind wall shots as I am able to do them myself with good headphones, but there's a limit. I'll see numerous behind wall shots without any audio cues, and without those, there's no way you can tell they are behind there unless they are a spitter and their spit gives them away behind a crack or arm clipping through (which does happen from time to time). You can report those people as well, but get some proof. Not just a screenshot, record their gameplay (there's a source gameplay recorder built in engine if I remember correctly), and block em.

[Dr Ernest Skrumples McKilliyKan]

It's true, LFD2 is one of my favorite games (750+ hours and counting) but the hackers are out of control recently. I have been noticing it more and more. Look for the guys that always carry the sniper rifle that repeatedly kill SI in versus with 1 shot or say a hunter with perfect heal while they are in the air. Theyll also start shooting at you the moment you spawn, even if it's in the middle of a roof with no line of site or behind something very far away, they'll start taking shots the moment you spawn in. VAC has either not caught up to the new exploits or are being hosted on nonVAC games

[Findanother1]

For some reason, there was this guy name Light, and some other people in the server. They said that "We were not able to play a game again." We saw them aimbotting and all that crap. I tried to find a way to find their names but I couldn't however. I'm just going to hope I don't lose my account because of playing a game.

[[Yondaime] Namikaze Minato]

AImbots are kind of hard to tell because they could be good at aiming or what not. But couple hours ago we saw a guy speed hacking. We owned the other team and so tank was pretty crap and suddenly he because really fast, normally tank cant outrun survivor with green hp bar, but this guy out ran me and hit me from front lol. We gave him benefit of the doubt and moved on. In the finale of dead centre 2000 pnts infront they had no chance to win and they were getting owned. Suddenly we see this guy running like a kangaroo across the map getting the cans. The best part was how he was able to revive his team mates faster than survivor can with adrenaline.

This was my first speed hack i had seen. looks like hackers are starting to focus more attention on l4d2.

[[CNC]-=HEV Elite=-]

Chances of people hacking on a steam game are VERY low, as VAC is renowned for banning with no mercy what so ever. Left 4 Dead is such a casual game too, I doubt anybody would even hack here. Why you may think so:

1. Location hack - Seriously there are only so many places the infected can spawn in versus, and since the "good spawns" are all known I usually just shoot the walls there and surprise, a kill follows shortly.
2. Aimbot - The infected have a large FoV, so with the hunter for example you see yourself soaring through the air at incredible speeds, in reality, you're not really that fast.

Combine these two together, and these so called "hackers" are actually legitimate players.

[[Yondaime] Namikaze Minato]

Originally posted by CNC-=HEV Elite=-:

Chances of people hacking on a steam game are VERY low, as VAC is renowned for banning with no mercy what so ever. Left 4 Dead is such a casual game too, I doubt anybody would even hack here. Why you may think so:

1. Location hack - Seriously there are only so many places the infected can spawn in versus, and since the "good spawns" are all known I usually just shoot the walls there and surprise, a kill follows shortly.
2. Aimbot - The infected have a large FoV, so with the hunter for example you see yourself soaring through the air at incredible speeds, in reality, you're not really that fast.

Combine these two together, and these so called "hackers" are actually legitimate players.

That is why i said aimbot and wallhack are hard to tell. But speedhack with 12 ping is waaayyy too obvious

[Pogo in Togo]

I also get called hacker a lot (about every day). True is, that I have exceptional aim, good headset and a lot of experience (as you can see in the video below I dont even use any modifications). Yesterday people called me cheater, because I skeeted 2 hunter with ak, which is quite easy... Then they kicked me out of the lobby -.-.

But there are cheaters around. I made this record (sry for the poor quality - my pc just sux...):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uzmI-xMaS_w

It is very obvious at 2:30...

[Dr Ernest Skrumples McKilliyKan]

I understand what you are saying, but dude, look at my profile, I've been playing this game for quite awhile. I'd like to think I know what I'm talking about when I get killed 6-8 times in a row, within the first 3 seconds of spawning ANYWHERE in a game of versus there is a hack envolved. I even spawned super far away and ran backwards, still got killed. And I'm talking getting head shot every time, that just doesn't happen
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Originally posted by CNC-=HEV Elite=-:

Chances of people hacking on a steam game are VERY low, as VAC is renowned for banning with no mercy what so ever. Left 4 Dead is such a casual game too, I doubt anybody would even hack here. Why you may think so:

1. Location hack - Seriously there are only so many places the infected can spawn in versus, and since the "good spawns" are all known I usually just shoot the walls there and surprise, a kill follows shortly.
2. Aimbot - The infected have a large FoV, so with the hunter for example you see yourself soaring through the air at incredible speeds, in reality, you're not really that fast.

Combine these two together, and these so called "hackers" are actually legitimate players.

[jethroetruck768]

Originally posted by CNC-=HEV Elite=-:

Chances of people hacking on a steam game are VERY low, as VAC is renowned for banning with no mercy what so ever. Left 4 Dead is such a casual game too, I doubt anybody would even hack here. Why you may think so:

1. Location hack - Seriously there are only so many places the infected can spawn in versus, and since the "good spawns" are all known I usually just shoot the walls there and surprise, a kill follows shortly.
2. Aimbot - The infected have a large FoV, so with the hunter for example you see yourself soaring through the air at incredible speeds, in reality, you're not really that fast.

Combine these two together, and these so called "hackers" are actually legitimate players.

There isnt much hacking but it is around and VAC is a complete and utter joke. There are ways to get around it that cant be defeated or detected without an entire rewrite to the source engine. Not to mention VAC is known for staggering bans to try and eliminate the "hackers" knowing what they got banned for. It can take upto several months to get an actual ban after VAC has detected something.