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[JameS] 2013年7月8日 3時36分
Attrocious Community F2P made it better.
I love being called a Free 2 Play ♥♥♥♥♥♥, (when in fact I've owned the game for 2 and a half years now) simply because I haven't played it yet.

"Oi charger you are so ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥" is probably less productive than actually telling me what i've done wrong so i can do better next time, but oh well not to be.

Oh and I love how my incompetence becomes sufficient reason for said person to try votekick me, yet the arrogant nature they showed wasn't just for a votekick in their direction.

Thankfully the other players were F2P and sided with me, and generally made the game that much more enjoyable.

So to all new and F2P players playing recently, I thank you, as you make the experience better because you don't have an elitest nature,

Thankyou
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Trolulz 2013年7月8日 3時51分 
Next time maybe practice before playing versus.
IOMWTH 2013年7月8日 4時27分 
You played for 3 hours and survived a finale in campaign mode, you can't even think about going into versus.
Bulldogs 2013年7月8日 4時33分 
OP is a troll or a .....
[JameS] 2013年7月8日 5時08分 
or what? a person who prefers decent people? skill is not what makes a player great in social games, it's who they are.

If your a crap player but decent person, you make the game better than a good player with an elitest attitude
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Cute little strawberry ♥ 2013年7月8日 5時38分 
JameS の投稿を引用:
or what? a person who prefers decent people? skill is not what makes a player great in social games, it's who they are.

If your a crap player but decent person, you make the game better than a good player with an elitest attitude
Depends how you look at it.
Some people prefer to play with "fun" players who use their mics and don't play serious and bla bla who cares about losing
The rest prefer to have decent players who know how to play and who cares if they are nice or not.
Lemmers 2013年7月8日 6時17分 
There's two ways to have fun in L4D2. Playing carelessly and screwing around, or playing seriously and competitively against the other team. When these two types of players are on the same team, friction happens. How couldn't it? If Valve leaves L4D2 with terrible browser menus and no match making, both groups are going to be fighting in every public server for dominance. A noob will get votekicked out of competitive games for screwing obvious things up, and vets will be votekicked out of casual games because they are "try hards" and use to a higher level of play. Well, as high of a level that vanilla Versus can give you, anyway.

This is entirely an issue with Valve's design of L4D2, not the users themselves. How many sub-browsers are there for Versus game types? Versus, Realism Versus, Confogl (mutation), Bleed Out, Taaaaaaank!, Follow the Litter, Healthpackalypse, Versus Survival... With the extra EMS mutations on the way, this problem is only made worse. Even Scavenge is abandoned because there's too many choices for how small the community is, forcing players into standard Versus just to find enough players to get a game going. Add to that, no manual matchmaking settings for lobbies to get similarly skilled players in and you are left with a mess of a game that is L4D2 Versus. I can see why casual players make their modded 10v10 servers to have fun screwing around, and why competitive players host their own finely-tweaked Confogl servers that actually try to make L4D2 enjoyable on the highest skill levels.


The community is fine, it's L4D2 that's broken. I wish they'd fix it so more new players would stay around.
Trolulz 2013年7月8日 8時23分 
Did you just call L4D2 a social game? If you want a social game where you make friends go play club penguin. Some players like to actually win in this game, so if you're constantly dying or making the team lose then don't get mad that you're getting votekicked. Either practice or find other people who aren't good and play with them.
bizarf 2013年7月8日 8時44分 
No one usually gets mad on those 20 player versus servers. I think some are back online now.
FerdiBerdiii 2013年7月8日 9時26分 
This thread just makes me laugh. No idea why, another thread complaining in some way involving F2P'ers in a bad (or good) way. Don't go flaming now. And for those hardcore players who commented above me, it's just a game. :)
[JameS] 2013年7月9日 0時32分 
i understand what you guys are saying, maybe i'm just used to other online games, i just thought dropping in to a team versus would be where to begin, rather than screwing up someones online campaign, but not sure which is the worse of two evils.

but why would this not be a social game?
The whole premise is co-op, and co-op is social. no matter which way you put it though, simple tips on how to play better are more productive than abuse, for both parties.
[HOH]Hellion666 2013年7月9日 2時14分 
JameS の投稿を引用:
i understand what you guys are saying, maybe i'm just used to other online games, i just thought dropping in to a team versus would be where to begin, rather than screwing up someones online campaign, but not sure which is the worse of two evils.

but why would this not be a social game?
The whole premise is co-op, and co-op is social. no matter which way you put it though, simple tips on how to play better are more productive than abuse, for both parties.
I agree with you that the community needs to cut a break with some of the newer players. Being new in a community like this can be purgatory or even hell.
Most of the older established players expect newer players to start with a co-op game and learn maps at least. I`ve had several friends that bought the game on sale that were running backwards in the map all the time the last few days.
For an established player playing with these guys on vs for the first time.....it drove me nuts! But hey.....they wanted to hang out with friends and chill :). Maybe the general communtiy should just say ♥♥♥♥ it and help newer people to learn this game!.....Who knows.....we might have a better community out of this?

P.S. I have 2000+ on L4D2! Don`t you dare call me a ♥♥♥♥ing noob people :P
Bulldogs 2013年7月9日 2時32分 
JameS の投稿を引用:
or what? a person who prefers decent people? skill is not what makes a player great in social games, it's who they are.

If your a crap player but decent person, you make the game better than a good player with an elitest attitude

You see what you done there, you assumed - tell me what sort of decent person assumes and then makes a blanket statement and calls everyone whos opinion differs to theirs mean or nasty or eliteist...

If you couldnt see the obvious i will state it for you, my point was about his remarks to the F2P statement.

/facepalm stupid thread yet again, the amount of ppl who get upset over an online game is mind boggling.
FerdiBerdiii 2013年7月9日 3時04分 
Tasslehof Burrfoot の投稿を引用:
JameS の投稿を引用:
or what? a person who prefers decent people? skill is not what makes a player great in social games, it's who they are.

If your a crap player but decent person, you make the game better than a good player with an elitest attitude

You see what you done there, you assumed - tell me what sort of decent person assumes and then makes a blanket statement and calls everyone whos opinion differs to theirs mean or nasty or eliteist...

If you couldnt see the obvious i will state it for you, my point was about his remarks to the F2P statement.

/facepalm stupid thread yet again, the amount of ppl who get upset over an online game is mind boggling.
Lawl I just came here to see what this thread will end into. :3
❤Pew Pew Panda❤ 2013年7月9日 3時25分 
Being A Newb to this game ive played online a few times and found most of the players to be fun and polite, but have run into games were they are vote kicking people for no reason i could see, i love the game to me its about having fun learning and playing as a team im quite happy for anyone to add me who also thinks the same as myself and dosent mind having a newb along to play.
FerdiBerdiii 2013年7月9日 3時48分 
Bianca Balti ッ の投稿を引用:
Being A Newb to this game ive played online a few times and found most of the players to be fun and polite, but have run into games were they are vote kicking people for no reason i could see, i love the game to me its about having fun learning and playing as a team im quite happy for anyone to add me who also thinks the same as myself and dosent mind having a newb along to play.:tank:
Dont expect too much of the community, there are those people out there. :P Hence this thread, this is one of the thousand complaining about the community.. I would'nt mind playing with a newb since I can be a drag myself..
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