For some reason my discussion disappered and I see more people complaining I will open the same one again- So after reading a lot of discussions of players whinning about getting kicked or playing against "hackers" Here's the thing: You might find yourself getting kicked from the game because- 1. The players need the slot 2. You have low hours 3. You have low hours, fine but you DON'T LISTEN. 4. You do stupid things like spawning miles away or 10 hours before they reach the area 5. Maybe they know you and you are a famous rage quitter. 6. They ASK you to leave and you are being a retard, rush or grief As a player with 3k hours, I have seen pretty much everything in this game. When I play pub games I mostly play with my friends and I admit, I kick players who don't listen or because I need the slot. I have no problem playing with new players as long as they listen. If they don't listen and they do stupid things or they just suck, I'd simply kick them. And you need to understand, this game doesn't have many hackers! I play pub games and also confogl, so trust me, I know. Players simply have skills - if you got leveld as a charger that is not a hack If you got deadstopped/skeeted as a Hunter or a Jockey - that is not a hack You died within 1 shot from a player with a Hunting Rifle? please, that does not mean they have Aimbot. Watch some videos on Youtube or read some guides about how to get better in L4D2 Most of the good players are just like me when it comes to playing pub games with low/new players Get better and you won't get kicked, communicate even if you don't have a mic you can type and listen to those who know better Besides, at least 80% of the pub players always rage quit even if they are playing with friends only because they are losing, maybe you should stop this bad habbit as well.