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Minulaptor Feb 5, 2013 @ 12:01pm
modded servers
Whats with all these modded servers now? I cant get into a decent game without it being modded, is there a way to find a server that isnt modded?
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ηєя∂єттє Feb 5, 2013 @ 12:50pm 
start lobby and set it to official dedicated
Bikes Feb 5, 2013 @ 1:00pm 
Originally posted by ATWA:
start lobby and set it to official dedicated
This or Local (Although I would only use Local for custom maps since local requires the host to stay in the game, otherwise it ends the game)
Dr Chaos MK Feb 5, 2013 @ 7:12pm 
I have been using openserverbrowser still. Seems like the only way to select decent ping servers is this method. However.... its all public games when done this way. Friends Only games still need the lobby. At that point, we start the game. If we get a bad server, we all vote to go back to the lobby to search for a different server. Unless of course there is 4 or 8 of us to fill a full Campaign or VS game. Since the game is full, no random person can join.
T. Jun 8, 2013 @ 9:59pm 
I am sick to death of the modded servers too - we keep our settings to official dedicated but 3 out of 4 times the server is not official and it is modded only at the very end so it becomes either completely fubar and unplayable due to endless tanks or some such OR it is so easy it is barely a fight. I mean what gives??? How do you know a server has been modded BEFORE you play through it because modded crap is not how I want to play.
[HOH]Hellion666 Jun 8, 2013 @ 10:08pm 
Easy fixed.....! BUY/RENT YOUR OWN SERVER! Stop whining about something that costs you nothing! That is all :P
ᗷᗴᗩᖇ Jun 8, 2013 @ 10:10pm 
Originally posted by T.:
I am sick to death of the modded servers too - we keep our settings to official dedicated but 3 out of 4 times the server is not official and it is modded only at the very end so it becomes either completely fubar and unplayable due to endless tanks or some such OR it is so easy it is barely a fight. I mean what gives??? How do you know a server has been modded BEFORE you play through it because modded crap is not how I want to play.
Those arent modded they're just horrible pinion servers that often glitch out in the finale amongst a myriad of other issues they frequently have.
T. Jun 8, 2013 @ 10:20pm 
@Hellion - even though you are being a rude troll I will respond by saying it is better to say nothing than offer crap info. If I was able to buy or rent a server then I would have. But I am not able to rent a server and seeing as there are still plenty of public servers available I don't think it is too much to ask that someone post the changes to the server so anyone entering that area knows what changes have been made prior to playing.

@BEARIZBLACK - why would they only glitch out in the very last map during the finale? Seriously, I have been playing this game since it came out and only in the past several months have I run into server after server of finale nonsense. Nothing else in the game is odd, glitchy or altered - just the ending. Granted on occasion I do run into some majorly altered servers but you can tell from the start....it is the rest of these that seem normal until the finale that are bugging me. I just want to play the game the way it was intended and knock out some more challenges. But I can't complete challenges when the finale is rigged one way or another.
Last edited by T.; Jun 8, 2013 @ 10:20pm
11☠0 Jun 8, 2013 @ 10:27pm 
Modded servers add variation and customization for an almost infinite amount of ways to play a game. The thing about vanilla is that once all challenges have been completed, it hardly remains that way any more. It becomes a brisk walk in the park to the experienced player. For instance, take normal expert. It's so extremely calm and the only thing that gets you really tangled up are♥♥♥♥♥♥poor team-mates who do not know how to stick together and watch another's back.

On the other hand, a modded server takes this idea of customization and makes it more inherent. Rather than a bland neutrality, things like perkmod and self-revive bring out player creativity and, if the server admin is clever enough, begins the game's transformatiion into a real personal and challenging way to play zombies differently each and every time.

I don't get the hate against modded servers. Modded servers are what have kept me in the game. Vanilla is fun, for only a while. It is after the first year or so that it begins to lose its flair; variety becomes the solution to constant engagement. Besides, it only makes sense that four survivors would have different ways to deal with a zombie environment, as opposed to the bland classicalism presented by the original gameplay.
ᗷᗴᗩᖇ Jun 8, 2013 @ 10:35pm 
Originally posted by T.:
@Hellion - even though you are being a rude troll I will respond by saying it is better to say nothing than offer crap info. If I was able to buy or rent a server then I would have. But I am not able to rent a server and seeing as there are still plenty of public servers available I don't think it is too much to ask that someone post the changes to the server so anyone entering that area knows what changes have been made prior to playing.

@BEARIZBLACK - why would they only glitch out in the very last map during the finale? Seriously, I have been playing this game since it came out and only in the past several months have I run into server after server of finale nonsense. Nothing else in the game is odd, glitchy or altered - just the ending. Granted on occasion I do run into some majorly altered servers but you can tell from the start....it is the rest of these that seem normal until the finale that are bugging me. I just want to play the game the way it was intended and knock out some more challenges. But I can't complete challenges when the finale is rigged one way or another.

I couldnt tell you why just that it happens. The reason why you've been experiencing it more in the last few months might just be valve retasking even more of their inhouse official servers and replacing them with the pinion garbage. Aside from the glitched finales they also have small stupid issues like entire games never having a single melee weapon and backhanded♥♥♥♥♥♥like manipulating sv and var rates to spoof good pings even though they're actually garbage.
T. Jun 8, 2013 @ 10:47pm 
interesting - you know that would explain why many of the servers I am hitting have Internal Server Error listed as title to the blank MOTD window. Though trying to avoid such servers has proven difficult. If they are getting paid for advertising on the servers then their advertisers should be ticked off because most of the servers I see these day have that Internal Server Error displayed. So it would seem the advertisers are not getting their moneys worth either.
T. Jun 8, 2013 @ 10:52pm 
Originally posted by Zombie Ninja:
Modded servers add variation and customization for an almost infinite amount of ways to play a game. The thing about vanilla is that once all challenges have been completed, it hardly remains that way any more. It becomes a brisk walk in the park to the experienced player. For instance, take normal expert. It's so extremely calm and the only thing that gets you really tangled up are♥♥♥♥♥♥poor team-mates who do not know how to stick together and watch another's back.

On the other hand, a modded server takes this idea of customization and makes it more inherent. Rather than a bland neutrality, things like perkmod and self-revive bring out player creativity and, if the server admin is clever enough, begins the game's transformatiion into a real personal and challenging way to play zombies differently each and every time.

I don't get the hate against modded servers. Modded servers are what have kept me in the game. Vanilla is fun, for only a while. It is after the first year or so that it begins to lose its flair; variety becomes the solution to constant engagement. Besides, it only makes sense that four survivors would have different ways to deal with a zombie environment, as opposed to the bland classicalism presented by the original gameplay.


I should have phrased differently - I don't hate the ability for people to mod servers as they wish, I simply prefer to know up front what I am getting into with a server that has been modded versus finding out later. I enjoy certain mods but not when I am specifically looking to work on challenges or play the 'vanilla' game with new players or friends.
ᗷᗴᗩᖇ Jun 8, 2013 @ 11:20pm 
Originally posted by T.:


I should have phrased differently - I don't hate the ability for people to mod servers as they wish, I simply prefer to know up front what I am getting into with a server that has been modded versus finding out later. I enjoy certain mods but not when I am specifically looking to work on challenges or play the 'vanilla' game with new players or friends.

Honestly as others have said Id look into hosting your own server. Hardware wise you dont need much of anything to run a nice dedicated linux server and if you've got 2 Mbit/s upload and low isp latency you're set. Ive run local and dedicated games from the same machine I play on with a bad internet connection far below those optimal specs. A few of my friends that have a few thousand miles on me had some playable but shakey pings and some friends across the pond were in the 100+ territory.

You could always rent a server but honestly its soo much nicer to have the server right infront of you even if it isnt hooked up to some absurd connection. Being able to implement things in realtime and not having to wait for service tickets to be filled over hours if not days trumps everyone and their grandma having good pings in my book.
11☠0 Jun 8, 2013 @ 11:45pm 
Originally posted by T.:
I should have phrased differently - I don't hate the ability for people to mod servers as they wish, I simply prefer to know up front what I am getting into with a server that has been modded versus finding out later. I enjoy certain mods but not when I am specifically looking to work on challenges or play the 'vanilla' game with new players or friends.

As others have mentioned, it doesn't cost you anything to host your own dedicated server to define it your way. Here's a good mod from L4dmaps.com that allows you to set up your own server with sourcemod and metamod compatiability. It comes with a set of plugins that you can, of course, configure to your hearts desire. http://www.l4dmaps.com/details.php?file=25215

I do understand where you are coming from. I do wish there was a set of choices immediately available to be able to see what plugins are on each server you are connecting to. There's IS a way, but it's a bit longer to do so.

What you can do is type openserverbrowser in your console, copy the IP of a server you're interested in, go to whatever search engine you prefer, put in the server engine, and then there should be a list of directories that gives you the details of exactly what plugins are on which server. Most of the time, the information is underneath 'server variables'. When you finally find one without any specific plugins, you can then go to lobby, type mm_dedicated_force_servers (ip) in the console, and then- valla- you're in the server of your choice with the specific developments you desire.

Of course, that does take much longer than just trying your luck but anti-modded people can rest easy knowing there's a solution to their dilemma.
Last edited by 11☠0; Jun 9, 2013 @ 5:00am
F8LBYTE Jun 8, 2013 @ 11:51pm 
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11☠0 Jun 8, 2013 @ 11:54pm 
Originally posted by Virgil:
The problem with setting it to official servers is they don't seem to support custom maps. I hope that the server modders know just how much they are♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥gamers off with their ♥♥♥♥. You people are ruining a great game.
I think you're naive. For every one person against mods, I have met two people who tell me that mods enhanced their love of the game. Don't get me wrong, vanilla is fine and dandy and rightfully has its own fundamentalist group. However, variety is the key to any game's future, especially in a game that wants to take part of the open-source revolution. It wouldn't make much sense to say "go ahead and make new maps but don't make anything different."

In fact, how many threads are made with "What you would like to see in l4d3" or "What changes are you hoping will come along with the next l4d"? That right there is customization; and modded servers do just that- add to the flavor of the gameplay with a more or less personalized approach.
Last edited by 11☠0; Jun 9, 2013 @ 12:03am
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