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Ryan May 10, 2013 @ 6:13pm
Get rid of Pinion White Label
As I understand it, these are 3rd party official servers contracted out to help increase official dedicated coverage. It kind of defeats the purpose since most people choose official dedicated for a better experience, and every single Pinion White Label server I've been to has been anything but a good experience. The servers constantly struggle and studder when handling any more than a few zombies, along with annoying bugs involving the big glowing ERROR. I've had my PC freeze because of their advertisements which has never happened on any other server with ads.

Is there really even a need for MORE official dedicated servers when the general population of L4D2 isnt even growing? Makes no sense.

To me this smells like a way to lower costs so as to provide better experiences for newer titles and not to expand coverage.

I could really give a ♥♥♥♥ why, but if you're going to lie and claim its for our benefit when its really for yours, then thats what I have a problem with.
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Shao May 10, 2013 @ 7:04pm 
More recent topics here: http://steamcommunity.com/app/550/discussions/0/828938354924127774/


Electric Gigolo 7 May 2013 @ 1:21pm
REMOVE PINION SERVERS! VALVE
Cannot connect to most pinion servers without getting a connection error, or sound stutter freezing. Not a sound driver problem.



Link: http://steamcommunity.com/app/550/discussions/0/828938532481030826/

me~ ~ 8 May 2013 @ 8:35am
Guide - How to block pinion ads in game.
How to block pinion advertising and disable the ingame adverts: http://piniongg.blogspot.com.au/

Find your hosts file first under windows, for detailed instructions on editing your hosts file see the URLs below:

Windows Vista/7 - http://helpdeskgeek.com/windows-7/windows-7-hosts-file/
Windows XP - http://www.accs-net.com/hosts/how_to_use_hosts.html
Wndows 8 - http://www.howtogeek.com/122404/how-to-block-websites-in-windows-8s-hosts-file/

Now add the following to your hosts file and save it afterwards:

127.0.0.1 pinion.gg
127.0.0.1 bin.pinion.gg
127.0.0.1 blog.pinion.gg
127.0.0.1 cdn.pinion.gg
127.0.0.1 crm.pinion.gg
127.0.0.1 cp.pinion.gg
127.0.0.1 delivery.pinion.gg
127.0.0.1 docs.pinion.gg
127.0.0.1 kermit.pinion.gg
127.0.0.1 legacy.pinion.gg
127.0.0.1 log.pinion.gg
127.0.0.1 mail.pinion.gg
127.0.0.1 motd.pinion.gg
127.0.0.1 ns1.pinion.gg
127.0.0.1 ns2.pinion.gg
127.0.0.1 ns3.pinion.gg
127.0.0.1 ns4.pinion.gg
127.0.0.1 ns5.pinion.gg
127.0.0.1 ns6.pinion.gg
127.0.0.1 pinionprizes.gg
127.0.0.1 pog.gg
127.0.0.1 pog.pinion.gg
127.0.0.1 stage.pinion.gg
127.0.0.1 templ4d2.pinion.gg
127.0.0.1 tix.pinion.gg
127.0.0.1 video.pinion.gg
127.0.0.1 voip.pinion.gg
127.0.0.1 wiki.pinion.gg
127.0.0.1 oscar.pinion.gg
127.0.0.1 ads.intergi.com
127.0.0.1 adback.pinion.gg

TIP: In Windows, edit C:\Windows\System32\drivers\etc\hosts (it’s just a text file so you can use Notepad but make sure you run Notepad as Administrator otherwise you won’t be able to save the file)

The more ppl do this the less we will see of pinion plugin on servers down the road.
Ryan May 11, 2013 @ 11:03am 
It should be noted that you have to run notepad as administrator in Windows 7
Shao May 11, 2013 @ 12:58pm 
Originally posted by Ryan:
It should be noted that you have to run notepad as administrator in Windows 7

Or if you run any anti virus such as Avira to allow access to hosts.
L4 Bacon Sep 19 @ 5:08am 
Here's a better way to block MOTD server ads. Since you aren't disabling html motd features - the server can't detect this and you won't be blocked from servers that look to prevent people who wish to "disable motd ads".

This method also uses wild cards - so it is very reliable but also keeps blocking variations using any of the known domains. So, this needs little or no maintenence. Do you really want to add one IP Address at a time? I don't!

1. Install Acrylic DNS Proxy on your Windows PC
http://mayakron.altervista.org/wikibase/show.php?id=AcrylicHome

2. Configure your active Ethernet or Wireless adapter to use 127.0.0.1 as your Primary DNS in tcp/ip 4 setttings.

3. At the END of your Acrylic Config File - add these entries to [WhiteExceptionsSection]

[WhiteExceptionsSection]
NAME1=*.pinion.gg
NAME2=*.pinionprizes.gg
NAME3=*.*.gg
NAME4= *.motdgd.*
NAME5= *.ptp22.*

Note: Some of you MAY not wish to block the entire *.gg domain. My view is there are NO legitimate web sites hosted on that domain.

After doing this, the ads will TRY to display but instead they'll just time out - you will be able to immediately just bypass them (hit Go), and start playing.
Originally posted by L4 Bacon:
Here's a better way to block MOTD server ads. Since you aren't disabling html motd features - the server can't detect this and you won't be blocked from servers that look to prevent people who wish to "disable motd ads".

This method also uses wild cards - so it is very reliable but also keeps blocking variations using any of the known domains. So, this needs little or no maintenence. Do you really want to add one IP Address at a time? I don't!

1. Install Acrylic DNS Proxy on your Windows PC
http://mayakron.altervista.org/wikibase/show.php?id=AcrylicHome

2. Configure your active Ethernet or Wireless adapter to use 127.0.0.1 as your Primary DNS in tcp/ip 4 setttings.

3. At the END of your Acrylic Config File - add these entries to [WhiteExceptionsSection]

[WhiteExceptionsSection]
NAME1=*.pinion.gg
NAME2=*.pinionprizes.gg
NAME3=*.*.gg
NAME4= *.motdgd.*
NAME5= *.ptp22.*

Note: Some of you MAY not wish to block the entire *.gg domain. My view is there are NO legitimate web sites hosted on that domain.

After doing this, the ads will TRY to display but instead they'll just time out - you will be able to immediately just bypass them (hit Go), and start playing.
that's just a longer unnecessary way to null route the ips

Just block them in the hosts file

Wayyy easier
L4 Bacon Sep 19 @ 10:10am 
No ... because there isn't any wild card support so you would need to MAINTAIN it .... my way takes a few min to setup and then you are pretty much done
Originally posted by L4 Bacon:
No ... because there isn't any wild card support so you would need to MAINTAIN it .... my way takes a few min to setup and then you are pretty much done
Wildcards shouldn't be used tbh, it blocks legitimate websites.

If you know all the IPs of the ad servers you can just block them and be done.
L4 Bacon Sep 19 @ 11:07am 
oh? name one legitimate site with a .gg domain LOL
Originally posted by L4 Bacon:
oh? name one legitimate site with a .gg domain LOL
Considering it's a country top level domain blacklisting the entire domain is overkill.

Also heres a legit website
https://champion.gg/
L4 Bacon Sep 19 @ 1:04pm 
LOL - find a eCommerce or COMPANY site with a gg LOL

Originally posted by L4 Bacon:
LOL - find a eCommerce or COMPANY site with a gg LOL
http://rgfalla.gg/

Happy now? Or you gonna keep arguing about a domain name?
L4 Bacon Sep 19 @ 1:13pm 
people can do whatever they want - as I SAID in my description. Personally I have NO USE for the gg domain
Plan Sep 19 @ 11:52pm 
Originally posted by L4 Bacon:
No ... because there isn't any wild card support so you would need to MAINTAIN it .... my way takes a few min to setup and then you are pretty much done

Thus far there is nothing to maintain. The ad server domains have not changed since pinion servers were introduced.

If they did change you have absolutely no gurantee they would stay with a .gg and not move to a .com (would you recommend i make a wildcard rule for all *.com domains once this happens to block pinion?)

I peronally have the offending pinion advertising pages blocked in a L3 ACL on my network. For the normies I would recommend the hosts file method as previously mentioned or making a windows firewall rule.

The method you recommended is the sledge hammer approch. There are much more elegant ways to achive the same result. (Not to mention by using a 3rd party dns (your method) you are providing an easy vantage point for a man in the middle to spy on your web browsing, Collect telemetry etc. There is also a huge potential for rouge behavior from that 3rd party hosts file program as well)

If you use this method and are happy with the results that is great but dont tell others to resort to shady methods to do something that is easily manageable from wtihin windows. There is no need to reinvent the wheel here. The time tested methods work just fine and requires 0 "maintance" thus far.
L4 Bacon Sep 19 @ 11:59pm 
Hi Plan,

Thank you for your input. I respect that there will be multiple views on this, and ask you for the same. Just because you feel strongly that the traditional way is "better" is not a reason for me to choose to not present what I feel is a better way - for me.

Wildcard support is very powerful. One may CHOOSE to leverage them differently than I have personally done. For example: *.pinion*.* - or - *motd*.* could be very useful and then it wouldn't matter if they changed from a .gg to a .com - provided of course that the string value is there there.
Plan Sep 20 @ 12:14am 
Also, Why did you revive a dead thread from 2013? Just noticed.
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