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Nero768 6 apr 2013 om 4:24nm
Third patry servers >.>
I know for a fact Im not the only person who plays this game and has mods for the workshop..... and everytime Im playing either singleplayer or multiplayer with my mods already loaded everything is fine... but when I get conected to a third party server they just stop working for the stupidest reasons.... not only that I never try to connect to anything but an offical dedicated server... and every now and again I get connected to one of these poor excuses of a server.... so when I get connected I leave as soon as possible and try a new game...... and I almost never find a game... I "host" mine (aka create game lobby butten)...... and when it goes to the little picture of the l4d gang with the game title and level loading and everything else.... right when it finishes loading and normally it would start up the level the game throws me out saying I dont have a modal skin for one of the special infected zombies (the original file when you first download the game not a mod reskin from the workshop)...... this happens 9/10 % of the time when I get connected to a third party server and then try to connect to anything else.... and so far the only fix Ive found for it is to exit out of the game to have steam redownload this modal.... the download doesnt take long but evenything about these third party servers are doing more harm than good.... something should really be done about them......
Laatst bewerkt door Nero768; 8 apr 2013 om 9:12nm
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Nero768 6 apr 2013 om 10:13nm 
when the game first starts it says " this is a third party server" Idk the full message... either way this server are horrible and Idk why they are around....
Nero768 7 apr 2013 om 9:01nm 
aimbots yes but wtf is m477h4xor2 ? english would be nice....... besides all my mods are from the workshop how are those not allowed.... mostly just reskins and textures and sounds anyway...... either way something still needs to be done...... they are still more of a problem then anything.......
Law 7 apr 2013 om 9:04nm 
Why wouldn't reskins of special infected be allowed? Imagine how broken it would make Versus if you had easily visible special infected that you could easily spot from a long distance.

If you want to run your own listen server so you can use your custom skins you just need to disable the check before starting the game from the console.

Out of all the mods I've used, the only ones I've had issues with regarding the server enforcing consistency are the gnome and any special infected.
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Lemmers 7 apr 2013 om 9:47nm 
Origineel geplaatst door Nero768:
aimbots yes but wtf is m477h4xor2 ? english would be nice....... besides all my mods are from the workshop how are those not allowed....

Workshop mods like the no boomer bile obscuring your vision? That's a blatant "material hack" of just replacing one texture in a vpk to get perfect vision. And with how much over-the-top trash talking some players do, I wouldn't be surprised if they install mods this nefarious to get an edge. Mods that are completely VAC undetectable, btw. Not sure how you guys think it stops aimbots, as that's a real memory hack of the game and not an addon.

It really only effects competitive modes, so hopefully Valve follows through and disables all addons in Versus gamemodes. Material hacking is just too easy in this game, to the point where you can't trust anyone.
Nero768 8 apr 2013 om 12:55nm 
ok I never said anything about special infected.... all I said was " mostly just reskins and textures and sounds anyway " I dont play those modes anyway I only do the capain..... so your coment is slightly useless... and I cant run my own server... unless you wanna give me to money for it =P and the " no boomer bile " mod that was mantioned I dont have and have never heard of.... and I wouldnt use it anyway..... and the biggest issue from these thrid party servers has not been noticed or relized by anyone who has commented on this post, obviously execpt me because I wrote it >.> .
Law 8 apr 2013 om 8:27nm 
I "host" mine...... and when if goes the the little picture of the l4d gang when the game title and level loading and everything else.... right when it finishes loading and normal it would start up the level the game throws me out saying I dont have a modal skin for one of the special infected zombies..

I assumed by "host" you meant set it to Local Server. It's not hard to host a listen server (its not hard to host a dedicated, either). You don't need to pay any money.

sv_consistency 0

Then the rest is here:
https://support.steampowered.com/kb_article.php?ref=5452-TASB-6078

Nero768 8 apr 2013 om 9:07nm 
yeah you know when you go to play the capain and you click on "create lobby" butten? thats what a lot of people would call "hosting" but you found that biggest issue with the third party servers and yet to comemt on it.....
Law 8 apr 2013 om 9:10nm 
The biggest issue is that they enforce consistency?

That seems like a pretty small issue. The servers will also be hosting versus matches so turning off consistency would affect those games. If you want to play with mods that are affected by consistency then host your own game locally instead of relying on a third party server for your lobby.
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Nero768 8 apr 2013 om 9:18nm 
the biggest issue is that when I join a thirs party server it deletes a file for this game on my computer.... forcing me to exit the client so steam and redownload it..... and then I have to waste my time to reopen the game and wait for it to load... then wait for my mods to load AGAIN! just to play a game...... THE THIRD PARTY SERVERS DELETE ORIGINAL GAME FILES! what part of this are you not getting..... how is getting rid of orignal game content enforcing consistency? are you that dense?
Law 8 apr 2013 om 9:19nm 
I've never had that issue with a third party server. Your issue is with your mods. Suck it up and host your own.
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Nero768 8 apr 2013 om 9:22nm 
stop posting useless comments and go away... you are wasting my time.....
[Volk] Thraka [Neo] 8 apr 2013 om 11:29nm 
your .... "...." are ..... wasting .... reading .... time.

As a former 3rd party server hoster, I wouldn't allow any custom skins\models either. It's way too easy to cheat. Valve doesn't care who cheats on their servers as long as it isn't an aimbot. But real servers do care.

Valve needs to create a workshop whitelist for servers.
Stark Raven 8 apr 2013 om 11:37nm 
Origineel geplaatst door neo Thraka:
...Valve needs to create a workshop whitelist for servers.
What? Leave those of us who don't trust the Workshop and install manually out in the cold? No. A server either should be pure or open to mods, none of this "Valve seal of approval" crap.
Laatst bewerkt door Stark Raven; 8 apr 2013 om 11:46nm
Stark Raven 8 apr 2013 om 11:47nm 
Now in regards to the original poster's "third party server is deleting files" claim, I've never seen it. And I've spent lots of time on unofficial servers because I personally hate pure servers. (Remember that pre-Workshop/early-Workshop phase when your only choice for Official Dedicated was those ♥♥♥♥♥♥, pure Pinion White Label servers?)
Until I can either get a clearer description or a verbatim error message, either from what the server kick message or the developer console says, then I can't lend credit to this allegation.
[Volk] Thraka [Neo] 8 apr 2013 om 11:55nm 
Origineel geplaatst door Those Dirty Blues:
Origineel geplaatst door neo Thraka:
...Valve needs to create a workshop whitelist for servers.
What? Leave those of us who don't trust the Workshop and install manually out in the cold? No. A server either should be pure or open to mods, none of this "Valve seal of approval" crap.

Ok, and improve the already included whitelist system... Lighten up man.
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