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[DFS] Pirrus 2013年3月14日 10時14分
Show some respect to new players in this game...
Once upon time, i bought l4d2 and joined a versus server. when i suck at surviving is a survivor, some player says" omg u sux" " gtfo gais kick dis guy plz" I am really tired of this and some people need to respect of that. Anyone agree with meh?
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nnythm 2013年3月14日 10時28分 
playing as a survivor is easier than infected so maybe you do sux, but you should still expect this in every game. play with friends or expert players.
ᗷᗴᗩᖇ 2013年3月14日 10時32分 
You've never completed a campaign. You shoudlnt be playing versus.

End of Story
lediloli 2013年3月14日 10時32分 
Hi.

I'm a new player on L4D2. I'd like to play on my own for a little time. I think I really need training. What must I choose in the game menu to play woth bots only ?

Thank you for your help.

Tess
( o Y o ) 2013年3月14日 10時39分 
Remember respect is a two way street, don't jump on to a vs game expecting others too carry you then respect you once you ruin the game and leave because you can't enjoy it simply because you didn't spend the time learning the maps or watching some youtube guides.

There is also plenty of guides in the steam guides section for learning before jumping into vs that will help newcomers.
lediloli 2013年3月14日 10時39分 
Anybody to help me, please ?
[DFS] Pirrus 2013年3月14日 10時42分 
CLIVEBEAROWENS の投稿を引用:
You've never completed a campaign. You shoudlnt be playing versus.

End of Story
I know, but i wanted to try that gamemode cuz it looks has lot of fun.
[DFS] Pirrus 2013年3月14日 10時43分 
C= /|miga の投稿を引用:
Remember respect is a two way street, don't jump on to a vs game expecting others too carry you then respect you once you ruin the game and leave because you can't enjoy it simply because you didn't spend the time learning the maps or watching some youtube guides.

There is also plenty of guides in the steam guides section for learning before jumping into vs that will help newcomers.

Thanks for telling me :P
The Man With No Name 2013年3月14日 10時50分 
I see a lot of people being total ♥♥♥♥ing ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥s to people with <50 hours and when I play with them, they're really good. I don't get this whole experience thing, we need to stop judging by hours and more by skill.

Also, you're a noob. You gotta be playing singleplayer for about 50 hours, and then you're probably ready for versus.
[DFS] Pirrus 2013年3月14日 10時51分 
The Man With No Name の投稿を引用:
I see a lot of people being total ♥♥♥♥ing ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥s to people with <50 hours and when I play with them, they're really good. I don't get this whole experience thing, we need to stop judging by hours and more by skill.

Also, you're a noob. You gotta be playing singleplayer for about 50 hours, and then you're probably ready for versus.

Sorry, but i just wanted to try versus first. Anyway i will practice my skills at singplayer with bots then, thanks for help :)
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Synchronicity 2013年3月14日 13時41分 
The Man With No Name の投稿を引用:
I see a lot of people being total ♥♥♥♥ing ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥s to people with <50 hours and when I play with them, they're really good. I don't get this whole experience thing, we need to stop judging by hours and more by skill.

Also, you're a noob. You gotta be playing singleplayer for about 50 hours, and then you're probably ready for versus.

I would find it highly suspect that when you first got this game you played single player mode for anywhere near the 50 hours your telling op to play.

OP, get a friend to go ingame with you on the same side and you're VK proof.
Bikes 2013年3月14日 14時00分 
Synchronicity の投稿を引用:
The Man With No Name の投稿を引用:
I see a lot of people being total ♥♥♥♥ing ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥s to people with <50 hours and when I play with them, they're really good. I don't get this whole experience thing, we need to stop judging by hours and more by skill.

Also, you're a noob. You gotta be playing singleplayer for about 50 hours, and then you're probably ready for versus.

I would find it highly suspect that when you first got this game you played single player mode for anywhere near the 50 hours your telling op to play.

OP, get a friend to go ingame with you on the same side and you're VK proof.

And then they'll just get rolled into the ground and end up leaving (at least that's the typical result from bad friend groups having their asses kicked)

And I agree that skill is more important but experience always helps. That's the case with anything in life. Hours is just a quick rough way to get a estimate of how good the player is, there are outliers sure, but typically a person with 1000 hours will completely curb stomp someone with 20 hours. There's also a lot of memorization in this game, which also helps the older players. That being said I never use it as the sole reason for a kick, I just check it in lobbies so I can try avoid being put on the team of new players versus the experienced players.
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ᗷᗴᗩᖇ 2013年3月14日 14時02分 
Synchronicity の投稿を引用:
The Man With No Name の投稿を引用:
I see a lot of people being total ♥♥♥♥ing ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥s to people with <50 hours and when I play with them, they're really good. I don't get this whole experience thing, we need to stop judging by hours and more by skill.

Also, you're a noob. You gotta be playing singleplayer for about 50 hours, and then you're probably ready for versus.

I would find it highly suspect that when you first got this game you played single player mode for anywhere near the 50 hours your telling op to play.

OP, get a friend to go ingame with you on the same side and you're VK proof.
I spent far more hours than that before venturing into versus and low and behold when I finally did rarely got kicked. If you have to have a another friend with you to keep you ingame that should tell you something.
Synchronicity 2013年3月14日 14時13分 
Bikes の投稿を引用:
Synchronicity の投稿を引用:

I would find it highly suspect that when you first got this game you played single player mode for anywhere near the 50 hours your telling op to play.

OP, get a friend to go ingame with you on the same side and you're VK proof.

And then they'll just get rolled into the ground and end up leaving (at least that's the typical result from bad friend groups having their asses kicked)

And I agree that skill is more important but experience always helps. That's the case with anything in life. Hours is just a quick rough way to get a estimate of how good the player is, there are outliers sure, but typically a person with 1000 hours will completely curb stomp someone with 20 hours. There's also a lot of memorization in this game, which also helps the older players. That being said I never use it as the sole reason for a kick, I just check it in lobbies so I can try avoid being put on the team of new players versus the experienced players.

Where in my post did I ever say that they wouldn't get their asses handed to them? Nowhere that I can see, just made a legitimate observation that if he's tired of the kicks to get a friend in with him. After all that's Valves answer to enjoy VS "play with friends"
Fast Twitch 2013年3月14日 14時34分 
CLIVEBEAROWENS の投稿を引用:
You've never completed a campaign. You shoudlnt be playing versus.

End of Story


TELL HIM GIRLFRIEND
( o Y o ) 2013年3月14日 14時39分 
On a personal note i spent over 500 hrs in co op [Expert realism] prior to jumping on vs mode, not that it was my goal but it was because i enjoyed co op mode the ppl in co op were more layed back and the one time i did try versus (i had 40 hrs odd of time in game) i got smashed and i knew without a doubt i was ruining my teams chances and they all were foaming at the mouth at me - which i understood and i didn't blame them for that.

When i did get into versus after about 500 + hrs i was more adept than most players and even now to this day as a survivor i have more awareness than most players in versus, you only benefit from avoiding vs until you get some time in campaign - co op mode.
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