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Gatorage 2013년 10월 22일 오전 5시 38분
Sniper rifle is overpowered?
What do you think?

I mean, it kills all infected with one shot except for the charger which needs two. And that is without firebullets. And it penetrates the infected killing everything behind it as well. Wouldn't it be more balanced if it would do "only" 150hp/bullet? Still kills spitter and boomer with one shot then. Just something I have been thinking on when it comes to balance....

If your counter comment will be "but it is hard to hit with it", then play some more and get some skills.
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stuck with shit membrane 2013년 10월 22일 오전 5시 46분 
I'll agree that both the Snipers in this game, the Hunting Rifle and the Military Sniper respectively (yes, I'm excluding the CS:S snipers just for argument's sake) can be beyond deadly in the right hands.

In short: Yes the Snipers are overpowered indeed. But so are all the T2 weapons when you think about it tbh.

Also:
If your counter comment will be "but it is hard to hit with it", then play some more and get some skills.

I'm not entirely sure why you would tell somebody to "get some skills" when you only have around 290 hours played in L4D2 so far and have lost most of your Versus games.
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Gatorage 2013년 10월 22일 오전 6시 49분 
I have lost most of them because I don't get to choose my team. I get put on random servers with random noobs. But that is not the point here. The sniper rifle is not hard to use and it does too much damage in my opinion.
Corvus 2013년 10월 22일 오전 7시 01분 
Never chose my teams.
56% of win.
But sniper rifle (especially Millitay one) is kinda unbalanced.
MunkeyThrust 2013년 10월 22일 오전 7시 07분 
(un)Rest님이 먼저 게시:
I'll agree that both the Snipers in this game, the Hunting Rifle and the Military Sniper respectively (yes, I'm excluding the CS:S snipers just for argument's sake) can be beyond deadly in the right hands.

In short: Yes the Snipers are overpowered indeed. But so are all the T2 weapons when you think about it tbh.

Also:
If your counter comment will be "but it is hard to hit with it", then play some more and get some skills.

I'm not entirely sure why you would tell somebody to "get some skills" when you only have around 290 hours played in L4D2 so far and have lost most of your Versus games.


290 hours is plenty of time to develop some skills in this game. Maybe you were a slow learner, but other people can catch on fast.
Nosfrat 2013년 10월 22일 오전 7시 47분 
No.

Snipers aren't overpowered. The fire rate is horrible, the reload is lengthy and unlike shotguns, can't be interrupted, the hunting rifle has ammo problems and the military sniper can't hit jack while on the move.
On realism, they actually become near unusable.

For those who think they're overpowered, well, no. T2 shotguns are overpowered, the AK47 is overpowered, the Deagle is overpowered, melee's are overpowered... When EVERYTHING is overpowered (MW2 anyone?), then nothing is. An OP weapon among other OP weapons is effectively average, snipers have a niche in this game, and they're pretty good at it, but they aren't overpowered. Sure, four players with military snipers will tear through anything in their path but isn't it the same with autoshotguns or laser sighted AK47s?

You guys seem to be talking from a versus point of view, but snipers are MUCH more valuable on Expert. And the AK47 is a one-hit kill against commons on versus, with 40 bullets, thrice the fire rate and the ammo cache, it should be way more OP. It also has a higher damage output and while it can't OHK specials, it comes pretty damn close with a single headshot.
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Apoc 2013년 10월 22일 오전 8시 11분 
you guys are all wrong.... I am overpowered :P
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Nosfrat 2013년 10월 22일 오전 8시 20분 
LOL I didn't even notice, but OP you're so wrong. It does 90 damage per bullet, which doesn't even OHK a Spitter. It does 270 for a headshot, and more often than not you'll need 6-7 bullets to take out a Charger, and 3-4 for other SI. Considering Chargers have 600 HP, if you manage to 2HK them with 270 damage per bullet (I'm not even sure they have head multipliers, maybe 1.25x on the arm or something, I just spam shots on their center of mass) you're probably playing with modded stuff.

The only thing you're right about is that, just like the Deagle, it's hard coded to be a OHK against CI no matter how much health they have, unless playing on Realism. I'm pretty sure uncommon infected on regular Expert have an effective 250+ HP unless going for the head, yet it OHKs them anywhere.
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Gatorage 2013년 10월 22일 오전 9시 12분 
I may be wrong like Tavi says, but I just wanted to create a discussion just like this to see what people consider the sniper rifles to be. :)
Nosfrat 2013년 10월 22일 오전 9시 18분 
Yeah well, I didn't mean to sound like a dikc or anything, just pointing out. But I'd be interested to see what people have to say about both snipers, and which one is the most "overpowered".
As well as M1014 vs SPAS, I keep hearing people complain about both, but particularly the M1014, while the SPAS is technically slightly better.
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