Yes i know there's already tons of these topics, i've spent a while looking through all of them. I've tried all the fixes i found to no avail. I can start the game, watch the cutscenes and go through all it's menus. When i go to join a game of any kind, online or offline, it loads the match halfway relatively quickly and immediately crashes to the desktop with no error messages at all. The game syncs like nothing happened and this has happened EVERY TIME, not just on this computer but my older one as well. I've deleted appcache, verified integerty of game cache (no bad files found), uninstall/reinstalled multiple times, adjusted graphics to multiple settings, restarted my computer and everything. It's not a Windows 8 issue, plenty of people run this fine on Windows 8. My computer specs: Windows 8.1 x64, AMD FX6300 Six Core @ 3.5ghz, 8gb RAM, AMD Raedon HD 7750. I'm not trying to fill the discussion board with bullcrap, i've been searching for fixes and genuinely can't find any. halp. please.