JohnnyG118 Mar 17 @ 10:46pm
Least Sportsmanlike Game on Steam
This game must have one of the worst player pools out there. Campaign is usually okay, but versus? Forget it. Honestly, if I'm not getting kicked outright because I "only" have 100 hours in the game (nevermind the 600 I had on XBL), I'm getting screamed at by a 14 year old for choosing pills over adrenaline. And don't even get me started on the trolls. People are either taking it WAY too seriously, or not seriously at all.

What's been your experience? Have I just had bad luck in random matchups?
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Visi Mar 17 @ 11:17pm 
You're going to need this:
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/13/138572/3268730-4315600602-22620.jpg

Make your profile viewable to friends only to get rid of the hours prejudice. Generally, joining a random versus match mid-game usually ends poorly. Try not to let it bother you. ^_^
JohnnyG118 Mar 17 @ 11:22pm 
I don't like to leave my profile private, but I guess if I'm gearing up for a good versus session it's probably the best thing to do.

The deep irony here is that I'm not bad at this game. I'm not some prodigy, but this isn't the lament of a n00b who's too ashamed to admit it. I know the maps. I know the strategies. I know the kill points to avoid/capitalize in versus. I'm actually a REALLY good player and I'm an asset to my teammates, unless it's a room full of true pro's that I can't keep up with. And if I get kicked from a session because I just can't run at that level, no problem and no hard feelings.

But seriously, you're going to kick me for taking over a bot 2 seconds before it gets charged off a ledge? Or for not stopping to heal myself when I've got 10+ commons in my face and 4 health left, with no ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ed support?

I swear, it takes longer just to FIND a good versus game than it does to finish playing one.
Visi Mar 17 @ 11:29pm 
It can be pretty silly, that's for sure.
[†]Munkee_King[†] Mar 17 @ 11:56pm 
pills over adrenaline? I only touch the shot if a teammate is down and needs to be picked up quick. I find it completely useless. Wow i can get to a door 1 second quicker. highfive.. lol.
ƊƐ♏ỚṈ Mar 18 @ 12:05am 
I've definitely been kicked for a number of things in versus and even campaign. One time, I was playing versus and I saw a spitter and so I ran at it shooting it with the duel wield pistols. (I find that this helps because you miss its main body of spit and all you have to do is jump over the pool around its dead body.) Well, right as I landed after jumping over the body, I got decked by a charger. Which is something that I could not have avoided. After my teammates killed the charger, they decided to kick me because "they told me not to run in the spitter goo and that I was a stupid noob for being hit by a charger".....

I believe that there are four types of people within the L4D2 gaming community.

Sometimes people "arent good enough" for other players. Of course you are bound to come across those cocky players that think they are better than a person who has clocked at least 200 or 300 more hours than they have. This is the first type.

The second type: You are also going to get those people who take the game way too seriuosly. Like the little kid you encountered. Most of the little kids that I encounter when playing this game appear to be really bossy..... and annoying.

And then you have the common ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥. This person has the maturity of a 12 year old but has the speech capabilities of an adult. This means that they just go about saying whatever they want, often judging other players performance and capabilities.

Last but not least, you have the team player. These people are hard to comeby. It would be a miracle if you found just a campaign game full of these people.

Maybe I'm wrong though....
PotatOS Mar 18 @ 12:20am 
I literally just left a game a few minutes ago- with this really horrible guy, who kept mocking me for being a "gurl gamer", as he put it in chat. Said a bunch of completely unnecessary things, ergh. Hope I can find the other lady who was there (She got a bunch of insults herself D: ). It really is a sort of 'diamond in the rough' when you find a good team player about, especially on VS.
[†]Munkee_King[†] Mar 18 @ 12:30am 
Originally posted by PotatOS:
I literally just left a game a few minutes ago- with this really horrible guy, who kept mocking me for being a "gurl gamer", as he put it in chat. Said a bunch of completely unnecessary things, ergh. Hope I can find the other lady who was there (She got a bunch of insults herself D: ). It really is a sort of 'diamond in the rough' when you find a good team player about, especially on VS.

if you want. you can add me. i dont care if someone is a girl, guy, kid, or adult.. as long as you dont shoot the crap out of back, and are nice to my other friends.
daniu -TLG- Mar 18 @ 12:31am 
Originally posted by PotatOS:
I literally just left a game a few minutes ago- with this really horrible guy, who kept mocking me for being a "gurl gamer", as he put it in chat. Said a bunch of completely unnecessary things, ergh. Hope I can find the other lady who was there (She got a bunch of insults herself
Please tell me you kicked him. It really is what the kicking system is for.
Visi Mar 18 @ 12:32am 
Originally posted by PotatOS:
I literally just left a game a few minutes ago- with this really horrible guy, who kept mocking me for being a "gurl gamer", as he put it in chat. Said a bunch of completely unnecessary things, ergh. Hope I can find the other lady who was there (She got a bunch of insults herself D: ). It really is a sort of 'diamond in the rough' when you find a good team player about, especially on VS.
That was only an excuse. He mocked you because he was jelly of your Magikarp.
Restless Mar 18 @ 1:19am 
Originally posted by S.W.A.T:
I've definitely been kicked for a number of things in versus and even campaign. One time, I was playing versus and I saw a spitter and so I ran at it shooting it with the duel wield pistols. (I find that this helps because you miss its main body of spit and all you have to do is jump over the pool around its dead body.) Well, right as I landed after jumping over the body, I got decked by a charger. Which is something that I could not have avoided. After my teammates killed the charger, they decided to kick me because "they told me not to run in the spitter goo and that I was a stupid noob for being hit by a charger".....

I believe that there are four types of people within the L4D2 gaming community.

Sometimes people "arent good enough" for other players. Of course you are bound to come across those cocky players that think they are better than a person who has clocked at least 200 or 300 more hours than they have. This is the first type.

The second type: You are also going to get those people who take the game way too seriuosly. Like the little kid you encountered. Most of the little kids that I encounter when playing this game appear to be really bossy..... and annoying.

And then you have the common ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥. This person has the maturity of a 12 year old but has the speech capabilities of an adult. This means that they just go about saying whatever they want, often judging other players performance and capabilities.

Last but not least, you have the team player. These people are hard to comeby. It would be a miracle if you found just a campaign game full of these people.

Maybe I'm wrong though....

To me, there are only two types of players:
The casual who is only interested in their own fun. If you try and tell them what they could do better or give them any criticism or advice, they will flip out at you. They're not interested in what other people have to say, or in how some things could be done better next time, they just want to play the game "their way". They just want to pew pew, and they'll kick anyone that pushes their sensitive buttons.

The other type is the gamer who is interested in learning the game and improving themselves. They have fun in game just like everyone else, but they want to actively get better at the game at the same time. They take everything in stride, and no matter how long they've played the game, they will listen to what people have to say and consider adapting themselves. They've got hardened skin, and can ignore vile irrelevant comments without crying a river about what someone in a video game said. They know its important to keep things relevant to the game, and not assume everything is a personal attack.

Both types of players come in a wide spectrum of skill but the key difference is their disposition, their willingness to learn from others and how sensitive they are to other's comments.
daniu -TLG- Mar 18 @ 1:34am 
Originally posted by Restless:
To me, there are only two types of players:
The casual who is only interested in their own fun. [...]
The other type is the gamer who is interested in learning the game and improving themselves.
And then there is the kind who has to win at all costs and will kick anybody who makes the slightest mistake without even trying to tell them what they did wrong. Also, immediately presses F5 if any kickvote comes up, no matter if they even saw what the current cause was

There are situations where it does take more than two seconds to unpound someone, and it's possible to miss a charge if the other team is playing well. There just seems to be a no-strike rule to many people.
ƊƐ♏ỚṈ Mar 18 @ 3:38am 
So, there are two types. Both types of people often boast about being "more experienced" than others even though they have only clocked 30-50 hours or so. I have at least 450 hours and I still have a lot to learn being as I got the gme during the 2013-2014 free holiday christmas sale thing. Aside from being cocky and arrogant, I think that these players also have a predetermined idea of all players. Which is that they suck.
I believe that there are small things to look for when trying to Identify these types.

Type one (as mentioned by Restless): These players tend to do their own thing. Rush ahead. Keep items to themselves like med kits, pills, adrenalin,etc. I believe that they also tend not to tell others about supplies and stuff. For Example; Hey, We've got two medkits here.
They also tend not to answer to vocal or typed messages. Nor do they listen to good ideas.

Type Two (Mentioned by daniu -TLG- ): These people tend to be somewhat controlling of situations. It's their way or the highway.... Further more, They also tend to ♥♥♥♥♥ a lot about when someone does something "wrong".
For example; The other day i was playing survival and we had not started yet and someone fell off of a decently high post and needed to use a health kit. He was at 50 Hp and he used a kit and all of a sudden another player started yelling at him for "wasting" a perfectly good medkit. The player then proceeded to start a vote kick in which he lost and immediatley rage quit afterword.

Oh and another thing. NO ONE LIKES PEOPLE WHO QUIT AFTER THEY DIE OR IF THE TEAM ISNT WINNING. I CERTAINLY HAVE NO RESPECT FOR THESE PEOPLE BECAUSE IT SHOWS THAT THEY HAVE A LACK OF COMMITMENT AND PATIENCE. IT ALSO SHOWS THAT THEY DONT GIVE A ♥♥♥♥ ABOUT THEIR TEAM.
JohnnyG118 Mar 18 @ 7:07am 
Thanks for all the comments everyone, glad to know I'm not alone. Hopefully I'll see some of you in game some time.

Oh and another thing. NO ONE LIKES PEOPLE WHO QUIT AFTER THEY DIE OR IF THE TEAM ISNT WINNING. I CERTAINLY HAVE NO RESPECT FOR THESE PEOPLE BECAUSE IT SHOWS THAT THEY HAVE A LACK OF COMMITMENT AND PATIENCE. IT ALSO SHOWS THAT THEY DONT GIVE A ♥♥♥♥ ABOUT THEIR TEAM.

This is another thing that really bothers me about versus. If you happen to be on the losing team, take your licks with some ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ composure. There is literally NOTHING at stake in this game (no XP, no rewards, nothing), so who the hell cares if your team happens to lose? Even if you're down by a wide margin you can still get in some awesome kills, and it's the perfect time to experiment with new techniques or approaches since there isn't much risk if it doesn't work out.

Sadly most versus games tend to go the same way. They start with less than a full room (okay), and going through the first round Ii becomes readily apparent who the "better" players are. They immediately switch teams into the open slots, the room fills up, and by the start of the second stage you've got a team of four OP players against 2 or 3 newer players. The weaker team goes down early, anybody joining into the game sees this and bails, and you end up with some 2800 - 785 blowout.

I don't understand this? When there are no stakes, how do you arrive at "fun" just beating up on obviously weaker players? Why wouldn't you want to try and get a few decent people on each team to make it more challenging for yourself?

I recall a game last week that went like this, where I happened to be on the OP winning side. One guy on my team just would NOT STOP harassing and taunting the other team, who had openly admitted they were three IRL friends, all fairly new at the game. I got sick of his ♥♥♥♥ and half way through defected to the other team, told them to listen to me wherever possible and just do their best. In the end we still lost, but we closed from a 1300 point deficit to less than 400 points. And most importantly of all, those new players learned a little bit about versus and (hopefully) won't just give up on it entirely, which would be the greatest tragedy of all. That's the ultimate failing with the OP mentality - I understand not wanting to waste your time with complete n00bs who aren't at your level, but unless somebody does it you're looking at a negative sum game. Experienced players will eventually move on to other games or passtimes, and if there's nobody new getting exposed to the game you'll run out of people to play it with.
Merle Dixon Mar 18 @ 7:26am 
Then there's my type : I could care less about what anyone thinks of me. I didn't purchase this game, and that's all it is ,a GAME, to try and please a bunch of electronic people. I really could give a ♥♥♥♥ what anyone thinks of me. I mean seriously, I'll never , ever, actually meet any one in person who plays games on the web. Lighten up people, if you get kicked, laugh it off and join another game. I get kicked, so what. Remember,IT'S ONLY A GAME.
ilikeminetoasted Mar 18 @ 7:42am 
Theres all kinds of players in this game. Dont take anything personally. Just leave and find a new game. There's usually plenty of them.
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