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G MAN 12 Şub 2014 @ 2:17pm
VAC banned for cheating. (NOT ME) Others...
How is it possible for a Steam user to have two account's? The first one was VAC BANNED for CHEATING. The second account created and linked to the banned account. How is this possible, it is allowed? Isn't this some form of cheating too? And how can Steam users do this and get away with it? If someone comes across a Steam user cheating the system like this should the non-cheating Steam users report said cheater?
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Dharok The Wretched 12 Şub 2014 @ 2:56pm 
Many people have created multiple accounts - I assume some do it for this very reason you are mentioning.
So if their main account gets banned, they can simply continue to do as they do on their next account.
I know when L4D2 was made free, a lof of people made alternate accounts.
I don't much see the point of it, perhaps someone can explain it to me.. I assume it's to troll/test hacks? I don't really know...
But basically, if someone is banned from one account, it doesn't necessarily mean they will have their other account banned.
At least, I don't think so.. I may be wrong.
G MAN 12 Şub 2014 @ 3:01pm 
Where are Steams rules and guidelines regarding cheating the Steam system like this? And what is the point of banning an account for cheating if that person will create another account connect the two and continue on as if nothing ever happened? Why ban at all at this point??
En son G MAN tarafından düzenlendi; 12 Şub 2014 @ 3:11pm
Dharok The Wretched 12 Şub 2014 @ 3:12pm 
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Where are Steams rules and guidelines regarding cheating the Steam system like this? And what is the point of banning an account for cheating if that person will create another account connect the two and continue on as if nothing ever happened? Why ban at all at this point??
Well I assume you need to buy the games again...
So if they want to continue getting banned and purchasing L4D2 for $20 then they can have fun with that....
But I see the frustration.
G MAN 12 Şub 2014 @ 3:13pm 
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Where are Steams rules and guidelines regarding cheating the Steam system like this? And what is the point of banning an account for cheating if that person will create another account connect the two and continue on as if nothing ever happened? Why ban at all at this point??
Well I assume you need to buy the games again...
So if they want to continue getting banned and purchasing L4D2 for $20 then they can have fun with that....
But I see the frustration.

No, I'm not banned. I found another here on Steam who is doing this exact thing. On their profile is a link to their banned account. Where are Steams rules and guidelines regarding cheating the Steam system like this found on Steam?
En son G MAN tarafından düzenlendi; 12 Şub 2014 @ 3:15pm
Dharok The Wretched 12 Şub 2014 @ 3:16pm 
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Well I assume you need to buy the games again...
So if they want to continue getting banned and purchasing L4D2 for $20 then they can have fun with that....
But I see the frustration.

No, I'm not banned. I found another here on Steam who is doing this exact thing. On their profile is a link to their banned account. Where are Steams rules and guidelines regarding cheating the Steam system like this found on Steam?
When I said 'you' I wasn't referring to YOU per se.
Just that anyone who would be banned etc has to buy the game again.
I'm not sure what the rules state in regards to this, I'll see if I can find anything.
G MAN 12 Şub 2014 @ 3:28pm 
If someone can get a 2-day ban from Steam Discussions for posting something Steam Moderators consider "Pointless" then wouldn't it be fair to say. Creating a second account on Steam after being VAC Banned for cheating would be a more serious offense than being banned for posting a so-called pointless topic in Discussions. I mean REALLY. Look at the two and tell me if something isn't wrong with that picture.

VAC Banned for cheating, then creates a second Steam account and links the two. Second aaccount still up and running. No consequences.

2-Day Ban from Steam Discussion reason "Pointless Topic"

Of the two which one is the more serious offense? Not rocket science...

Somethings wrong with that picture.

En son G MAN tarafından düzenlendi; 12 Şub 2014 @ 3:33pm
Dharok The Wretched 12 Şub 2014 @ 3:34pm 
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If someone can get a 2-day ban from Steam Discussions for posting something Steam Moderators consider "Pointless" then wouldn't it be fair to say. Creating a second account on Steam after being VAC Banned for cheating would be a more serious offense than being banned for posting a so-called pointless topic in Discussions. I mean REALLY. Look at the two and tell me if something isn't wrong with that picture.

VAC Banned for cheating, then creates a second Steam account and links the two. Second aaccount still up and running. No consequences.

2-Day Ban from Steam Discussion reason "Pointless Topic"

Of the two which one is the more serious offense? Not rocket science...
I completely agree.
I don't like people who cheat, nobody does.
Perhaps if there isn't anything in the rules, an amendment should be made.
G MAN 12 Şub 2014 @ 3:36pm 
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If someone can get a 2-day ban from Steam Discussions for posting something Steam Moderators consider "Pointless" then wouldn't it be fair to say. Creating a second account on Steam after being VAC Banned for cheating would be a more serious offense than being banned for posting a so-called pointless topic in Discussions. I mean REALLY. Look at the two and tell me if something isn't wrong with that picture.

VAC Banned for cheating, then creates a second Steam account and links the two. Second aaccount still up and running. No consequences.

2-Day Ban from Steam Discussion reason "Pointless Topic"

Of the two which one is the more serious offense? Not rocket science...
I completely agree.
I don't like people who cheat, nobody does.
Perhaps if there isn't anything in the rules, an amendment should be made.

What would you do?
Goldfish Syndrome 12 Şub 2014 @ 3:37pm 
I have 2 vac bans and 2 alt accounts with no bans, are you going to perma lock all 3 accounts?
G MAN 12 Şub 2014 @ 3:39pm 
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I have 2 vac bans and 2 alt accounts with no bans, are you going to perma lock all 3 accounts?

Isn't this cheating? Cheating the Steam system?
Goldfish Syndrome 12 Şub 2014 @ 3:41pm 
No it's me having 2 other accounts


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I have 2 vac bans and 2 alt accounts with no bans, are you going to perma lock all 3 accounts?

Isn't this cheating? Cheating the Steam system?
En son Goldfish Syndrome tarafından düzenlendi; 12 Şub 2014 @ 3:41pm
Dharok The Wretched 12 Şub 2014 @ 3:44pm 
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I completely agree.
I don't like people who cheat, nobody does.
Perhaps if there isn't anything in the rules, an amendment should be made.

What would you do?
What would I do in regards to what? The rules? Or the person cheating?

I would report the cheater, until I knew they were VAC banned. VAC bans are not instantaneous, and may be days or weeks after the report.
Let me remind you, that VAC bans are indeed only relevant to VAC-secured servers.
So if you are playing in a server without VAC, that person will be able to join and will be able to cheat.
VAC bans are NEVER lifted under any circumstances. This person may continue to play single player/servers which aren't VAC-secured. They also can not transfer CD keys from one account to another, so as I said, they will have to continue to purchase the game multiple times.
If they're that stupid, then all power to them.

You could also use the 'block all communication' function to stop them joining your games and vice-versa.
G MAN 12 Şub 2014 @ 3:46pm 
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What would you do?
What would I do in regards to what? The rules? Or the person cheating?

I would report the cheater, until I knew they were VAC banned. VAC bans are not instantaneous, and may be days or weeks after the report.
Let me remind you, that VAC bans are indeed only relevant to VAC-secured servers.
So if you are playing in a server without VAC, that person will be able to join and will be able to cheat.
VAC bans are NEVER lifted under any circumstances. This person may continue to play single player/servers which aren't VAC-secured. They also can not transfer CD keys from one account to another, so as I said, they will have to continue to purchase the game multiple times.
If they're that stupid, then all power to them.

You could also use the 'block all communication' function to stop them joining your games and vice-versa.

Thank-you..
Dharok The Wretched 12 Şub 2014 @ 3:50pm 
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What would I do in regards to what? The rules? Or the person cheating?

I would report the cheater, until I knew they were VAC banned. VAC bans are not instantaneous, and may be days or weeks after the report.
Let me remind you, that VAC bans are indeed only relevant to VAC-secured servers.
So if you are playing in a server without VAC, that person will be able to join and will be able to cheat.
VAC bans are NEVER lifted under any circumstances. This person may continue to play single player/servers which aren't VAC-secured. They also can not transfer CD keys from one account to another, so as I said, they will have to continue to purchase the game multiple times.
If they're that stupid, then all power to them.

You could also use the 'block all communication' function to stop them joining your games and vice-versa.

Thank-you..
I'm not sure what I did, but you are welcome.
May your gaming be a cheating-free experience! :3
G MAN 12 Şub 2014 @ 3:52pm 
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Thank-you..
I'm not sure what I did, but you are welcome.
May your gaming be a cheating-free experience! :3

Information you provided is informative. I don't care about cheaters, just wanted to know Steams stand on it.
En son G MAN tarafından düzenlendi; 12 Şub 2014 @ 3:53pm
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