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``` P R O ``` 12 Fev às 14:17
VAC banned for cheating. (NOT ME) Others...
How is it possible for a Steam user to have two account's? The first one was VAC BANNED for CHEATING. The second account created and linked to the banned account. How is this possible, it is allowed? Isn't this some form of cheating too? And how can Steam users do this and get away with it? If someone comes across a Steam user cheating the system like this should the non-cheating Steam users report said cheater?
Última alteração por ``` P R O ```; 12 Fev às 14:46
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Many people have created multiple accounts - I assume some do it for this very reason you are mentioning.
So if their main account gets banned, they can simply continue to do as they do on their next account.
I know when L4D2 was made free, a lof of people made alternate accounts.
I don't much see the point of it, perhaps someone can explain it to me.. I assume it's to troll/test hacks? I don't really know...
But basically, if someone is banned from one account, it doesn't necessarily mean they will have their other account banned.
At least, I don't think so.. I may be wrong.
``` P R O ``` 12 Fev às 15:01 
Where are Steams rules and guidelines regarding cheating the Steam system like this? And what is the point of banning an account for cheating if that person will create another account connect the two and continue on as if nothing ever happened? Why ban at all at this point??
Última alteração por ``` P R O ```; 12 Fev às 15:11
Originalmente postado por ıllıllı Ġ Ф Я Ġ ıllıll:
Where are Steams rules and guidelines regarding cheating the Steam system like this? And what is the point of banning an account for cheating if that person will create another account connect the two and continue on as if nothing ever happened? Why ban at all at this point??
Well I assume you need to buy the games again...
So if they want to continue getting banned and purchasing L4D2 for $20 then they can have fun with that....
But I see the frustration.
``` P R O ``` 12 Fev às 15:13 
Originalmente postado por DLR.A Dharok the Wretched:
Originalmente postado por ıllıllı Ġ Ф Я Ġ ıllıll:
Where are Steams rules and guidelines regarding cheating the Steam system like this? And what is the point of banning an account for cheating if that person will create another account connect the two and continue on as if nothing ever happened? Why ban at all at this point??
Well I assume you need to buy the games again...
So if they want to continue getting banned and purchasing L4D2 for $20 then they can have fun with that....
But I see the frustration.

No, I'm not banned. I found another here on Steam who is doing this exact thing. On their profile is a link to their banned account. Where are Steams rules and guidelines regarding cheating the Steam system like this found on Steam?
Última alteração por ``` P R O ```; 12 Fev às 15:15
Originalmente postado por ıllıllı Ġ Ф Я Ġ ıllıll:
Originalmente postado por DLR.A Dharok the Wretched:
Well I assume you need to buy the games again...
So if they want to continue getting banned and purchasing L4D2 for $20 then they can have fun with that....
But I see the frustration.

No, I'm not banned. I found another here on Steam who is doing this exact thing. On their profile is a link to their banned account. Where are Steams rules and guidelines regarding cheating the Steam system like this found on Steam?
When I said 'you' I wasn't referring to YOU per se.
Just that anyone who would be banned etc has to buy the game again.
I'm not sure what the rules state in regards to this, I'll see if I can find anything.
``` P R O ``` 12 Fev às 15:28 
If someone can get a 2-day ban from Steam Discussions for posting something Steam Moderators consider "Pointless" then wouldn't it be fair to say. Creating a second account on Steam after being VAC Banned for cheating would be a more serious offense than being banned for posting a so-called pointless topic in Discussions. I mean REALLY. Look at the two and tell me if something isn't wrong with that picture.

VAC Banned for cheating, then creates a second Steam account and links the two. Second aaccount still up and running. No consequences.

2-Day Ban from Steam Discussion reason "Pointless Topic"

Of the two which one is the more serious offense? Not rocket science...

Somethings wrong with that picture.

Última alteração por ``` P R O ```; 12 Fev às 15:33
Originalmente postado por ıllıllı Ġ Ф Я Ġ ıllıll:
If someone can get a 2-day ban from Steam Discussions for posting something Steam Moderators consider "Pointless" then wouldn't it be fair to say. Creating a second account on Steam after being VAC Banned for cheating would be a more serious offense than being banned for posting a so-called pointless topic in Discussions. I mean REALLY. Look at the two and tell me if something isn't wrong with that picture.

VAC Banned for cheating, then creates a second Steam account and links the two. Second aaccount still up and running. No consequences.

2-Day Ban from Steam Discussion reason "Pointless Topic"

Of the two which one is the more serious offense? Not rocket science...
I completely agree.
I don't like people who cheat, nobody does.
Perhaps if there isn't anything in the rules, an amendment should be made.
``` P R O ``` 12 Fev às 15:36 
Originalmente postado por DLR.A Dharok the Wretched:
Originalmente postado por ıllıllı Ġ Ф Я Ġ ıllıll:
If someone can get a 2-day ban from Steam Discussions for posting something Steam Moderators consider "Pointless" then wouldn't it be fair to say. Creating a second account on Steam after being VAC Banned for cheating would be a more serious offense than being banned for posting a so-called pointless topic in Discussions. I mean REALLY. Look at the two and tell me if something isn't wrong with that picture.

VAC Banned for cheating, then creates a second Steam account and links the two. Second aaccount still up and running. No consequences.

2-Day Ban from Steam Discussion reason "Pointless Topic"

Of the two which one is the more serious offense? Not rocket science...
I completely agree.
I don't like people who cheat, nobody does.
Perhaps if there isn't anything in the rules, an amendment should be made.

What would you do?
Tetrachlorodibenzo-p-dioxin 12 Fev às 15:37 
I have 2 vac bans and 2 alt accounts with no bans, are you going to perma lock all 3 accounts?
``` P R O ``` 12 Fev às 15:39 
Originalmente postado por ℳogwai:
I have 2 vac bans and 2 alt accounts with no bans, are you going to perma lock all 3 accounts?

Isn't this cheating? Cheating the Steam system?
Tetrachlorodibenzo-p-dioxin 12 Fev às 15:41 
No it's me having 2 other accounts


Originalmente postado por ıllıllı Ġ Ф Я Ġ ıllıll:
Originalmente postado por ℳogwai:
I have 2 vac bans and 2 alt accounts with no bans, are you going to perma lock all 3 accounts?

Isn't this cheating? Cheating the Steam system?
Última alteração por Tetrachlorodibenzo-p-dioxin; 12 Fev às 15:41
Originalmente postado por ıllıllı Ġ Ф Я Ġ ıllıll:
Originalmente postado por DLR.A Dharok the Wretched:
I completely agree.
I don't like people who cheat, nobody does.
Perhaps if there isn't anything in the rules, an amendment should be made.

What would you do?
What would I do in regards to what? The rules? Or the person cheating?

I would report the cheater, until I knew they were VAC banned. VAC bans are not instantaneous, and may be days or weeks after the report.
Let me remind you, that VAC bans are indeed only relevant to VAC-secured servers.
So if you are playing in a server without VAC, that person will be able to join and will be able to cheat.
VAC bans are NEVER lifted under any circumstances. This person may continue to play single player/servers which aren't VAC-secured. They also can not transfer CD keys from one account to another, so as I said, they will have to continue to purchase the game multiple times.
If they're that stupid, then all power to them.

You could also use the 'block all communication' function to stop them joining your games and vice-versa.
``` P R O ``` 12 Fev às 15:46 
Originalmente postado por DLR.A Dharok the Wretched:
Originalmente postado por ıllıllı Ġ Ф Я Ġ ıllıll:

What would you do?
What would I do in regards to what? The rules? Or the person cheating?

I would report the cheater, until I knew they were VAC banned. VAC bans are not instantaneous, and may be days or weeks after the report.
Let me remind you, that VAC bans are indeed only relevant to VAC-secured servers.
So if you are playing in a server without VAC, that person will be able to join and will be able to cheat.
VAC bans are NEVER lifted under any circumstances. This person may continue to play single player/servers which aren't VAC-secured. They also can not transfer CD keys from one account to another, so as I said, they will have to continue to purchase the game multiple times.
If they're that stupid, then all power to them.

You could also use the 'block all communication' function to stop them joining your games and vice-versa.

Thank-you..
Originalmente postado por ıllıllı Ġ Ф Я Ġ ıllıll:
Originalmente postado por DLR.A Dharok the Wretched:
What would I do in regards to what? The rules? Or the person cheating?

I would report the cheater, until I knew they were VAC banned. VAC bans are not instantaneous, and may be days or weeks after the report.
Let me remind you, that VAC bans are indeed only relevant to VAC-secured servers.
So if you are playing in a server without VAC, that person will be able to join and will be able to cheat.
VAC bans are NEVER lifted under any circumstances. This person may continue to play single player/servers which aren't VAC-secured. They also can not transfer CD keys from one account to another, so as I said, they will have to continue to purchase the game multiple times.
If they're that stupid, then all power to them.

You could also use the 'block all communication' function to stop them joining your games and vice-versa.

Thank-you..
I'm not sure what I did, but you are welcome.
May your gaming be a cheating-free experience! :3
``` P R O ``` 12 Fev às 15:52 
Originalmente postado por DLR.A Dharok the Wretched:
Originalmente postado por ıllıllı Ġ Ф Я Ġ ıllıll:

Thank-you..
I'm not sure what I did, but you are welcome.
May your gaming be a cheating-free experience! :3

Information you provided is informative. I don't care about cheaters, just wanted to know Steams stand on it.
Última alteração por ``` P R O ```; 12 Fev às 15:53
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